Did my Labs 31 yo - off gear 1 year 5 months

[Antonio fella]

31 yo (32 very soon)

So, as the title says went to see a doc, did bloodwork after being completely off gear for 1 year and 5 months; been on and off mostly on for about 5 years before coming off in 2015 Sep.

Please see my results below, and any advice would be greatly appreciated:


Testosterone, Total: 327 Norm: 241 - 827 ng/dl
Testosterone Free: 56.5 Norm: 46.0 - 224.0 pg/ml
Sex Hormone Binding Glob: 43 Norm: 17.30 - 65.80 nmol/l
Folate: 7.2 Norm: >5.38 ng/ml

Needless to say I felt terrible in 2016, probably test was below 300 at that time, now Im somewhat ok...feel free to express any thoughts of what I should be doing.

Ps docs response was "everything is ok".

[mazrim]

Either get back on or stay off and see if you recover more but that's a long time you've been off already to still have numbers that low. Free test is very low.

[8 INCH not biceps]

What you should be doing is getting back on the juice, when a person leaves humanity behind they should never go back.

[ESFitness]

31 yo (32 very soon)

So, as the title says went to see a doc, did bloodwork after being completely off gear for 1 year and 5 months; been on and off mostly on for about 5 years before coming off in 2015 Sep.

Please see my results below, and any advice would be greatly appreciated:


Testosterone, Total: 327 Norm: 241 - 827 ng/dl
Testosterone Free: 56.5 Norm: 46.0 - 224.0 pg/ml
Sex Hormone Binding Glob: 43 Norm: 17.30 - 65.80 nmol/l
Folate: 7.2 Norm: >5.38 ng/ml

Needless to say I felt terrible in 2016, probably test was below 300 at that time, now Im somewhat ok...feel free to express any thoughts of what I should be doing.

Ps docs response was "everything is ok".

Typically below 350 qualifies for hrt. Maybe add some proviron, winstrol or tren and take care of that shbg

[mass243]

There seems to be huge scale with normal min/max levels!

[Antonio fella]

Either get back on or stay off and see if you recover more but that's a long time you've been off already to still have numbers that low. Free test is very low.

Im debating between hopping back on or staying clean... part of the reason coming off was to inpregnant my wife (which I did  ) and we are having baby girl in several weeks.

Im definitely not satisfied of my gym performance at this point... remebering good times when I was on feels great.

[Antonio fella]

There seems to be huge scale with normal min/max levels!

Exactly, I have awesome insurance which covers everything, should I try a new doc? A specialist this time endocrinologist and not regular physician?

[ESFitness]

Congrats on the kid.

Ive had kids while on full blast cycles. Both boys for instance were while on 3500 & 7g/wk just by doing a couple 5000iu hcg shots IM a week apart. The first was either 3500 test alone or 2-2.5g test and some tren and reforvit-b(dbol), the 2nd was 3500 test, 1g eq, and a myriad of tren, deca, dbol andnothers. Others i have no idea. I think the 1st girl was while on 75 cyp &25 prop/week or 200 cyp/wk.. Although i mightve been off or using the old pink clomid that looked like skittles. The other girls inhave nonclue. 2nd girl was a lil before my 1st boy, so prolly 1g test and some tren... After those i have no clue.

[Devon97]

Exactly, I have awesome insurance which covers everything, should I try a new doc? A specialist this time endocrinologist and not regular physician?

A Dr or clinic probably isn't going to go much over 200 wk, But that may be enough to give you the boost you need feel better and slightly increase gym performance.

I started TRT last April and made a world of diff. My energy sky rocketed. And I started at 200/wk.

I still use TRT dosages ( or a little over) but go black market since it's much cheaper.

I also do full PCT for 6 weeks following each cycle.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Why not bring your test levels up to where most 18-21 year old men's are? 1000-1200. Get them there and keep them there most of the time and never look back. Basically a shot or shot and a half of test a week would do the trick. Never come off a shot of test a week. Do a 3 or 4 month "cycle" in the summer time every year. Doctors want you in line feeling like an old man. There's a war on your balls going on...Take matters into your own hands.  Go on a shot a week for life and you never have to worry about chasing a ghost with pct/s etc. 25 years ago the aver test level at your age is probably around 800. But because the medical industry wants you sick, they lowered the "normal" numbers so you fall in line. Same can be said about High blood pressure numbers. We are only 5 years away where 140/100 will be considered normal. UP is Down-Down is Up with these people...

[tres_taco_combo]

OP, did you cycle pretty much all the time or did you come off and do PCT?

and trt guys, assume 250mg test per week, do you guys take arimidex at all? any nolva?

[mazrim]

A Dr or clinic probably isn't going to go much over 200 wk, But that may be enough to give you the boost you need feel better and slightly increase gym performance.

I started TRT last April and made a world of diff. My energy sky rocketed. And I started at 200/wk.

I still use TRT dosages ( or a little over) but go black market since it's much cheaper.

I also do full PCT for 6 weeks following each cycle.

That's crazy high for trt from a doctor.

[mazrim]

Why not bring your test levels up to where most 18-21 year old men's are? 1000-1200. Get them there and keep them there most of the time and never look back. Basically a shot or shot and a half of test a week would do the trick. Never come off a shot of test a week. Do a 3 or 4 month "cycle" in the summer time every year. Doctors want you in line feeling like an old man. There's a war on your balls going on...Take matters into your own hands.  Go on a shot a week for life and you never have to worry about chasing a ghost with pct/s etc. 25 years ago the aver test level at your age is probably around 800. But because the medical industry wants you sick, they lowered the "normal" numbers so you fall in line. Same can be said about High blood pressure numbers. We are only 5 years away where 140/100 will be considered normal. UP is Down-Down is Up with these people...

There are a few studies done on average test levels per age group. Less then 25 years old was around 700. OP falls below the 85-100 age group. Free test is very important.

[ESFitness]

A Dr or clinic probably isn't going to go much over 200 wk, But that may be enough to give you the boost you need feel better and slightly increase gym performance.

I started TRT last April and made a world of diff. My energy sky rocketed. And I started at 200/wk.

I still use TRT dosages ( or a little over) but go black market since it's much cheaper.

I also do full PCT for 6 weeks following each cycle.

200/wk is about double what actual trt dose are.

[efanhowz]

At 25 before starting any AAS my test was 333. Sex drive was always great but I was tired most days. After that I ran a couple cycles, made some great gains, came off completely, lost some of it, then said fuck it and opted for blasting and cruising on 500mg/week for cruising.

Feel great during my cruises and don't lose any gains. Cholesterol is fine on 500mg/week so why bother going off and getting depressed and doing the roller coaster of pct?

There's your secret folks. If you have shit genetics like me blasting and crusing is the way to go