'Stoned' dog bleary-eyed and barely able to stand after 'eating a joint while

[The Scott]

I don't care about your examples. I care about evidence. Sure, I used some examples, however, there is no available evidence to suggest that legalizing marijuana will lead to the downfall of society. And since you and others are making the claim against marijuana, it makes sense that you would provide evidence--I don't care about anecdotal evidence.

It is shitty logic to use a few experience and think it is objectively the truth without sound reasoning. You continue to use anecdotal evidence. Who gives a shit about your experience when it comes to measuring the objective truth. You just want to be right, so will keep relying on shitty logic (your own personal experiences).

My experiences are both subjective in origin and objective in nature.  That you don't care for them is noted.  Fine.  Be a cuntlette. We have zero effect on one another in the real world and here we merely exchange not so pleasant pleasantries.  Your desire to be acknowledge as correct is no different from anyone else's except you're a pudenda about it.  We will never meet so the reality is I don't give an intercourse about your Wiggsian frailties. 

[SF1900]

My experiences are both subjective in origin and objective in nature.  That you don't care for them is noted.  Fine.  Be a cuntlette. We have zero effect on one another in the real world and here we merely exchange not so pleasant pleasantries.  Your desire to be acknowledge as correct is no different from anyone else's except you're a pudenda about it.  We will never meet so the reality is I don't give an intercourse about your Wiggsian frailties. 

Yes, and your experience is a total of 1. That is poor reasoning.To make assumptions based on a few personal experiences is SHITTY logic. Anecdotal evidence is the least reliable form of evidence, but if you want to continue using shitty logic, so be it. I guess as long as you feel that you're right. When you listen to academic debates, do you see them relying on their own personal experiences? No. Why not? Because anyone with good reasoning knows personal experiences are the worst form of evidence.

Again, you just want to be right because it makes you feel good. You have no desire for the truth about your claim. By default, that is shitty logic.

[mass243]

Could you imagine a government ran by Coach, mass243, and The Scott?

Coach: Guys, I've called this emergency meeting because I've just clicked onto Facebook and read about an isolated incident in Glasgow, Scotland where a dog has ingested a small amount of the class-B illegal drug cannabis. This is fucking serious...do you know what’s going to happen in the US if this shit becomes available for anything other than medicinal purposes? WALLS!! THEY WILL BUILD GARDEN WALLS OUT OF IT! Dogs everywhere will be stoned; children will be getting it handed to them on Halloween! Junkie dogs and zombie kids will destroy muh free market!

Mass243: Ho-lee-fuk! He's right. That's what happened in Somalia - I seent it in a movie: walls of cannabis, gays bumming each other and looters everywhere. It was 'anarchistic' as fuck. I know hipsters (and most people generally to the right) like to argue about the philosophy of the 'mini-state', but what these classical liberals and dumbasses who embrace certain principles of anarchy don’t realise is that people like me will come along, redefine everything, throw in a few non sequiturs and then before you know it - boom! You're a banana republic!

The Scott: One such as I am inclined to agree. I don't drink, nor do I partake in smoking, and I certainly do not wish to have these 'dopes' near me when they are intoxicated and overcome with sin! What’s next? Allowing consenting adults to do what they like with their own bodies? Legalising prostitution? Blasphemy! Don’t they realise that it’s a slippery slope? Next on the agenda will be paedophilia!

Mass243: You're right. If they allow weed then what next? HEROIN!? INCEST!? Being gay used to be illegal - now look at the place!

Coach: Lol, libtard Marxists on Facebook are asking me if I've bothered to read up about any sort of 'harm principle' or know the difference between positive and negative freedoms! Do you think we should entertain the idea of looking at economic arguments for legalisation? Maybe examine Portugal, or debate whether or not it might lower crime and reduce the likelihood of addiction?

The Scott: THAT SOUNDS LIKE ISLAM!! NEXT THEY’LL BE SAYING A MURDERER CAN MURDER BECAUSE IT’S IN HIS NATURE! MY BROTHER ATTACKED MY MOTHER WHEN HE HAD THE MUNCHIES!! I DON’T NEED ANY DATA! YOU WANT EVIDENCE? LISTEN TO THE PHONE CALL RECORDING OF THE INCIDENT:

(audio plays)
Operator: Hello, 911, what service do you require?
The Scott: I suppose one such as I might be requiring the police force, and no shilly-shallying!
Operator: Excuse me, sir, could you please talk in plain English?
The Scott: Ha! Typist. Is one bamboozled by my loquacity? Well, what one such as I am asking for is a police officer to arrive and prevent my brother from murdering my mother in a drug-induced frenzy!

(background noise)
'Where's the fucking biscuits, bitch? I know you've hidden them! WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE CRISPS?! I'M STARVING!'
'AAAAAAARRHHH, He's attempting to restrict my airway! Hurry, The Scott, one such as your mother is about to expire!'

Operator: Don't worry, sir...the police are on their way. (hangs up)

Coach: Sweet baby Jesus! I’ve heard enough. Ban it. Ban everything!

Hahaa,
ok this was quite funny 

[Zillotch]

my late brother

Whats the story with this dillnuts dead brother?

[ESFitness]

Whats the story with this dillnuts dead brother?

Scotty is a cop caller who called the cops and had his brother who was an addict put in jail for "threatening his mommy". Now he's dead.

Real stand up guy.

[Zillotch]

Scotty is a cop caller who called the cops and had his brother who was an addict put in jail for "threatening his mommy". Now he's dead.

Real stand up guy.

so.... how does that relate to cannabis?

[mazrim]

Yes, and your experience is a total of 1. That is poor reasoning.To make assumptions based on a few personal experiences is SHITTY logic. Anecdotal evidence is the least reliable form of evidence, but if you want to continue using shitty logic, so be it. I guess as long as you feel that you're right. When you listen to academic debates, do you see them relying on their own personal experiences? No. Why not? Because anyone with good reasoning knows personal experiences are the worst form of evidence.

Again, you just want to be right because it makes you feel good. You have no desire for the truth about your claim. By default, that is shitty logic.

Aren't you doing the same? Personal experiences? You posted about professors, etc.

Course with today's "education" that could be a point for the other side  

[ESFitness]

so.... how does that relate to cannabis?

Same way watching porn makes somebody a rapist

[robcguns]

Weed is fucking great for responsible adults.I use edibles and they help me sleep and put me in a great mood.Simple as that.Do I drive when on them?no.I don't even go in public.

[Zillotch]

Same way watching porn makes somebody a rapist

i see.

[SF1900]

Aren't you doing the same? Personal experiences? You posted about professors, etc.

Course with today's "education" that could be a point for the other side  

You should read my other statements to him:

Sure, I used some examples, however, there is no available evidence to suggest that legalizing marijuana will lead to the downfall of society. And since you and others are making the claim against marijuana, it makes sense that you would provide evidence--I don't care about anecdotal evidence.

I acknowledged that I used some personal experience, but also stated that he is making the claim that legalizing marijuana will lead to X therefore the burden of proof lies with him.

Read more than one of my posts.

[Straw Man]

Could you imagine a government ran by Coach, mass243, and The Scott?

Coach: Guys, I've called this emergency meeting because I've just clicked onto Facebook and read about an isolated incident in Glasgow, Scotland where a dog has ingested a small amount of the class-B illegal drug cannabis. This is fucking serious...do you know what’s going to happen in the US if this shit becomes available for anything other than medicinal purposes? WALLS!! THEY WILL BUILD GARDEN WALLS OUT OF IT! Dogs everywhere will be stoned; children will be getting it handed to them on Halloween! Junkie dogs and zombie kids will destroy muh free market!

Mass243: Ho-lee-fuk! He's right. That's what happened in Somalia - I seent it in a movie: walls of cannabis, gays bumming each other and looters everywhere. It was 'anarchistic' as fuck. I know hipsters (and most people generally to the right) like to argue about the philosophy of the 'mini-state', but what these classical liberals and dumbasses who embrace certain principles of anarchy don’t realise is that people like me will come along, redefine everything, throw in a few non sequiturs and then before you know it - boom! You're a banana republic!

The Scott: One such as I am inclined to agree. I don't drink, nor do I partake in smoking, and I certainly do not wish to have these 'dopes' near me when they are intoxicated and overcome with sin! What’s next? Allowing consenting adults to do what they like with their own bodies? Legalising prostitution? Blasphemy! Don’t they realise that it’s a slippery slope? Next on the agenda will be paedophilia!

Mass243: You're right. If they allow weed then what next? HEROIN!? INCEST!? Being gay used to be illegal - now look at the place!

Coach: Lol, libtard Marxists on Facebook are asking me if I've bothered to read up about any sort of 'harm principle' or know the difference between positive and negative freedoms! Do you think we should entertain the idea of looking at economic arguments for legalisation? Maybe examine Portugal, or debate whether or not it might lower crime and reduce the likelihood of addiction?

The Scott: THAT SOUNDS LIKE ISLAM!! NEXT THEY’LL BE SAYING A MURDERER CAN MURDER BECAUSE IT’S IN HIS NATURE! MY BROTHER ATTACKED MY MOTHER WHEN HE HAD THE MUNCHIES!! I DON’T NEED ANY DATA! YOU WANT EVIDENCE? LISTEN TO THE PHONE CALL RECORDING OF THE INCIDENT:

(audio plays)
Operator: Hello, 911, what service do you require?
The Scott: I suppose one such as I might be requiring the police force, and no shilly-shallying!
Operator: Excuse me, sir, could you please talk in plain English?
The Scott: Ha! Typist. Is one bamboozled by my loquacity? Well, what one such as I am asking for is a police officer to arrive and prevent my brother from murdering my mother in a drug-induced frenzy!

(background noise)
'Where's the fucking biscuits, bitch? I know you've hidden them! WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE CRISPS?! I'M STARVING!'
'AAAAAAARRHHH, He's attempting to restrict my airway! Hurry, The Scott, one such as your mother is about to expire!'

Operator: Don't worry, sir...the police are on their way. (hangs up)

Coach: Sweet baby Jesus! I’ve heard enough. Ban it. Ban everything!

LOL - best post I've read in a long time

[mazrim]

You should read my other statements to him:

Sure, I used some examples, however, there is no available evidence to suggest that legalizing marijuana will lead to the downfall of society. And since you and others are making the claim against marijuana, it makes sense that you would provide evidence--I don't care about anecdotal evidence.

I acknowledged that I used some personal experience, but also stated that he is making the claim that legalizing marijuana will lead to X therefore the burden of proof lies with him.

Read more than one of my posts.

You are claiming it won't when there are lots of studies that support it being detrimental to mental function, etc.
These are a few with just a quick search:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2484901

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/

Neither of you can really provide proof for either side of the equation as it still hasn't been widely legalized/studied long enough to see the effects over time in the general population, but is it worth the "risk" to society by fully legalizing it considering what is shown by various studies? He seems to have more to back up his position based on what I've seen/read.

I'm not really on one side or the other, btw, but would tend towards not fully legalizing it or there has to be a strong regulation system which maybe that is what is being pushed for (legalization to general population but with regulations). It is odd how alcohol is permitted but marijuana not but that doesn't necessarily mean that it should be fully legalized.

I guess the main issue would be whether it is detrimental to the individual mainly or does it have a large effect on those outside that individual as well.

Plus it stinks really bad!!  

[SF1900]

You are claiming it won't when there are lots of studies that support it being detrimental to mental function, etc.
These are a few with just a quick search:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2484901

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/

Neither of you can really provide proof for either side of the equation as it still hasn't been widely legalized/studied long enough to see the effects over time in the general population, but is it worth the "risk" to society by fully legalizing it considering what is shown by various studies? He seems to have more to back up his position based on what I've seen/read.

I'm not really on one side or the other, btw, but would tend towards not fully legalizing it or there has to be a strong regulation system which maybe that is what is being pushed for (legalization to general population but with regulations). It is odd how alcohol is permitted but marijuana not but that doesn't necessarily mean that it should be fully legalized.

I guess the main issue would be whether it is detrimental to the individual mainly or does it have a large effect on those outside that individual as well.

Plus it stinks really bad!!  

I already know it will lead to personal consequences. That wasn't what I was saying. The claim that appeared to be made by Coach and The Scott is that legalization of marijuana will have negative repercussions on a grander scale i.e., communities and society at large. In other words, legalizing marijuana will create a society of deadbeats who are just going to sit home and smoke all day. That is what I challenged. Is there evidence to suggest that the legalization of marijuana will negatively impact society at large? (beyond the direct individual and perhaps some idiots who get in the car while high)?

But as you said, there is not enough research to suggest it will negatively impact society at large. Until such evidence presents itself that demonstrates a correlation, you can't say either way. Yet, politicians are making these claims, which is why its illegal. They shouldn't make a statement until the evidence is demonstrable. They are making the claim that legalizing marijuana will lead to a society of deadbeats, therefore the burden of proof lies with them. It doesn't lie with me (you dont have to prove a negative in science).

[The Ugly]

Dog ate a joint and folks STILL want to legalize?!

Absolute madness.

[deadz]

Keep making it legal for recreational use and you're going to see this more. Shitbags


'Stoned' dog bleary-eyed and barely able to stand after 'eating a joint while out walking'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/stoned-dog-bleary-eyed-barely-10132164

Didn't bother to read thread and oh yea alcohol is wayyy better for society.

[Nirvana]

Replace the word "marijuana" with "guns" and then watch how your opinion completely changes about the subject.

[TuHolmes]

Replace the word "marijuana" with "guns" and then watch how your opinion completely changes about the subject.

Truth.

[The Ugly]

Replace the word "marijuana" with "guns" and then watch how your opinion completely changes about the subject.

You're asking too much.