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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2017, 03:44:47 PM »
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what of your son came to you one day and said he was gay?

I gave him fucked up genes, or my woman did, but it's a defect similar to downs or something, except obviously not as crippling.

Now, on the other hand, if he came to me and told me he wants gender reassignment surgery, he'd be fucking disowned and thrown to the wolves. Of course after giving him an opportunity to repent and realize that it's only because of societal screw ups such a surgery is even possible and he's not *actually* trans but something was really really fucked up in the environment he grew up in, which made him believe it's true.

 Which isn't *really* my fault, all this garbage is in the media everywhere you look.

Trans isn't *real*. It's got no genetic basis except as a mental illness. If the surgery didn't exist, or was banned, would there be trannies?

No.

There'd still be gays and lesbians and bi folk, that's fine.

Also I'd never ever let this hypothetical gay son raise kids with another man. Wtf is that?

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2017, 03:48:40 PM »
your poor son.....
Your a fucked up dad.

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2017, 03:50:20 PM »
your poor son.....
Your a fucked up dad.

Society is fucked you idiot.

And yes, poor son he has a strong dad as a role model  ::)

How trans got tacked onto LGBT I'll never know.

Do you support pedophilia too?

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2017, 03:54:33 PM »
According to his social media.

Big deal.

Beethoven's Ninth and shit.


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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2017, 03:56:12 PM »
your poor son.....
Your a fucked up dad.

I did you the favor of writing up a real reply, please tell me what you actually disagree with.

And no "muuuh feelings" allowed ;)

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2017, 04:17:57 PM »
I mean, look dude, my son could be a good person, or a shitty person, and coming out as gay wouldn't change that.

My only point is that homosexually is an obvious defect within a population. No species would reproduce, there would be no "survival of the fittest", if everybody were gay.

Some people are born without a limb. Does that change their character? Not really. Being gay is the same SORT of thing, though obviously on a mental/psychological level.

There's no hate in any of that. These just seem like pretty obvious facts to me, that have been brushed under the carpet because of PC. 

Please tell me what exactly you disagree with and if you present a good argument I'll change my mind. But just logically, all of that seems to make sense.

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2017, 05:16:16 PM »
your poor son.....
Your a fucked up dad.

Beethovens ninth
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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2017, 05:18:57 PM »
Beethovens ninth

Explain.

I'm unfortunately not well versed on the history of classical music. Failure of my education.

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2017, 05:22:12 PM »
Society is fucked you idiot.

And yes, poor son he has a strong dad as a role model  ::)

How trans got tacked onto LGBT I'll never know.

Do you support pedophilia too?

Does your son know his dad luvs the cock and his mom doesn't?

Does your dad know his son luvs the cock?

Is there anybody who doesn't know you luv the cock?

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2017, 05:23:21 PM »
Does your son know his dad luvs the cock and his mom doesn't?

Does your dad know his son luvs the cock?

Is there anybody who doesn't know you luv the cock?

Incredible deflection.

You're not very smart, are you?

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2017, 05:52:57 PM »
I mean, look dude, my son could be a good person, or a shitty person, and coming out as gay wouldn't change that.

My only point is that homosexually is an obvious defect within a population. No species would reproduce, there would be no "survival of the fittest", if everybody were gay.

Some people are born without a limb. Does that change their character? Not really. Being gay is the same SORT of thing, though obviously on a mental/psychological level.

There's no hate in any of that. These just seem like pretty obvious facts to me, that have been brushed under the carpet because of PC. 

Please tell me what exactly you disagree with and if you present a good argument I'll change my mind. But just logically, all of that seems to make sense.

I don't think the "defect" argument holds up logically. That argument would have merit if everbody were gay because, yes, then humanity (or whatever species) would die out. But in every culture the great majority of people are exclusively or mostly heterosexual and some people (animals too) are gay. That's the way it is and always has been with it playing out in very different ways in different times and places. To call this reality a "defect" is a stretch. Why would a higher being or evolution (whichever of the two you believe in) create such a consistent defect across all times and places?

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2017, 05:55:26 PM »
Incredible deflection.

You're not very smart, are you?

Even if I wasn't....I'm not the one dining on dark dick like you are.

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2017, 06:07:13 PM »
I don't think the "defect" argument holds up logically. That argument would have merit if everbody were gay because, yes, then humanity (or whatever species) would die out. But in every culture the great majority of people are exclusively or mostly heterosexual and some people (animals too) are gay. That's the way it is and always has been with it playing out in very different ways in different times and places. To call this reality a "defect" is a stretch. Why would a higher being or evolution (whichever of the two you believe in) create such a consistent defect across all times and places?

Wow well thanks for engaging the topic on an intellectual level.  Appreciate that.

Don't see why you're against thinking of it as a defect. It's not pervasive throughout the whole species, yes, because obviously if it were there'd be no species to think of a generation away.

Normal mating behavior is between a female and a male. Mating leads to children, leads to propagation of genes, leads to an expansion of the population.

The ones born gay end that. Unless they go against who they are and pretend heterosexuality.... it's not like their actual bodies are defective and incapable of reproduction.

As for why it exists, either though a higher power or evolution? Honestly my guess is that something in the mind gets tweaked during fetal development. And a man who is supposed to be attracted to women accidentally is now attracted to men. *He* can't help it, which is why I've got nothing against him.

Remember that there's equal chance of inheriting the XX or XY chromosomes. As the fetus grows and sex differences start to become pronounced, I'd hypothesize that something in the brain goes the other way.

So you've got a boy developing, but through that genetic flaw his mind is coded to be attracted to other men.

Same thing with girls.

So it's got nothing to do with evolution precisely, but rather a *failure* of it. Like I said, some people are born with obvious physical deformities. Are we not allowed to call these things defects? Just because the gay thing happens in the mind and isn't visible doesn't mean it's any less not the way a normal human (in the REPRODUCTION aspect ONLY) is supposed to be.

Nowhere am I saying that gays are dumber, or worse human beings, or anything of the sort. I'm just acknowledging that they're born different, and since that difference halts reproduction in its tracks, it's considered a species defect.

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2017, 06:31:26 PM »
Well, "normal" and "defect" are in the eye of the beholder, I guess. I don't see it as a overwhelming species reproduction flaw since there seem always to be plenty of offspring to go around (too many could be argued). I see it as so pervasive and consistent (and not ugly or deformed) that my own perspective is to call it a certain version of "normal". I agree that most of the time it comes genetically or from fetal factors as you point out but exactly how who knows. And, not to support your abnormality theory, I also think that factors AFTER birth can play a role in some cases (absent fathers, certain type of mothering). Also whether it is approved by society (Greek warriors) or disapproved (traditional Christianity) will govern choices made and where it comes to the surface more.

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2017, 06:38:24 PM »
Well, "normal" and "defect" are in the eye of the beholder, I guess. I don't see it as a overwhelming species reproduction flaw since there seem always to be plenty of offspring to go around (too many could be argued). I see it as so pervasive and consistent (and not ugly or deformed) that my own perspective is to call it a certain version of "normal". I agree that most of the time it comes genetically or from fetal factors as you point out but exactly how who knows. And, not to support your abnormality theory, I also think that factors AFTER birth can play a role in some cases (absent fathers, certain type of mothering). Also whether it is approved by society (Greek warriors) or disapproved (traditional Christianity) will govern choices made and where it comes to the surface more.

Oh yes factors after birth most definitely affect it.  In those cases though I think there's more/better evidence for this being a psychological affliction.

Maybe your genes predispose you to it, and under certain environmental factors it comes out. Whereas your identical twin, raised in a different place, had the same disposition but didn't have it developed.

Good point about Greeks and Christianity. I was going to get to that. I'm not vilifying being gay, like I said, all those people are fine.

Doesn't matter if we reference it as normal or ugly or deformed. We're talking about the same thing, so sure let's call it normal but don't fall victim to a logical fallacy where the meaning of the individual words taints our perception. It's the same thing.

So sure, "normal" in the sense that it's supposed to and does exist. "Abnormal" and "defective" in the sense that it halts reproduction.

Both those perspectives can coexist so we're not really disagreeing on anything here.

Final thought. Take a community of gays. Isolate then from society. Do the same to a community of heterosexual people.

Who's community will continue to exist two, three generations from now?

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2017, 06:40:12 PM »
I also don't think being born gay or predisposed to it is a natural selection thing that helps depopulate the species. I honestly think it's a common flaw in the development of a very, very complex organism, and frankly quite amazing that there's nothing "worse"

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Re: David Dearth in the hospital for mental health reasons
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2017, 10:03:42 PM »
Ranger-boy, you haven't replied, I'm assuming you can't, and your whole argument is flawed because it's based on emotions instead of logic.

Also I guess since you ignored the elephant in the room, you actually do support the cultural acceptance of pedophilia?