Kevin Levrone leg update

[Rudee]

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what is the getbigger's opinon on this?

 Until bodybuilding competitors are scored on how much they lift the gym, Levrone will at the bottom of the pack.

[Dave D]

Until bodybuilding competitors are scored on how much they lift the gym, Levrone will at the bottom of the pack.

Valid point. That said who is the great champion who lifted very light? Did anyone consider that these are moderate weights for the Champion of earanimal?

[AbrahamG]

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what is the getbigger's opinon on this?

Can't see shit and from what I can see, they are stick like still.

[Danimal77]

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what is the getbigger's opinon on this?

He's taking the shit seriously. Looking forward to seeing the outcome.

[Danimal77]

Until bodybuilding competitors are scored on how much they lift the gym, Levrone will at the bottom of the pack.

If you hate him so much why do you bother even reading posts about him? You're pathetic.

[MAXX]

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what is the getbigger's opinon on this?

quarter reps

nice joint and tendon destroying workout without much stimulus to the muscle..

Funny because his bench and shoulderpress form is flawless

[Mr Anabolic]

Androgen brain in action.

[ratherbebig]

quarter reps

nice joint and tendon destroying workout without much stimulus to the muscle..

Funny because his bench and shoulderpress form is flawless

looks to me he goes reasonably deep there
instead one may ask what good it does to go knees to the chest deep? i'd like to see some evidence of that being superior, not that there is any

[rocket]

looks to me he goes reasonably deep there
instead one may ask what good it does to go knees to the chest deep? i'd like to see some evidence of that being superior, not that there is any

You're forgetting

A non (or former) getbigger does NOTHING right.

If goes too deep, he is risking injury
If he goes too shallow, he isn't deep enough

[LurkerNoMore]

Those leg presses look like nothing more than knee bends

[oldtimer1]

looks to me he goes reasonably deep there
instead one may ask what good it does to go knees to the chest deep? i'd like to see some evidence of that being superior, not that there is any

It simple physics and the math is indisputable. The longer the range of motion the more work is being done.

He is doing what most do in the gym with the leg press. Shallow leg presses allows you to put a million plates on but you are doing less work than if you did deep leg presses working the muscle through the full range of motion. Look at video of Yates doing a leg press or a hack. It's deep.  

You must see it in the gym like I see it. Ego lifters always short stroking a movement so they can handle the big weights. If it wasn't for the short range of motion the weight used would be a lot less. I see guys doing half reps with shoulder presses, chest presses and a ton of other movements. Just so they can put the pin in the low slot, grab the big dumbbells or pile on the plates.  It's a delusional thing so they think they are strong. Just saw a guy lift 500lbs from his knees in a power rack. After his set I did it too. I can only lift on a good day 415lbs off the ground.

[Dave D]

It simple physics and the math is indisputable. The longer the range of motion the more work is being done.

He is doing what most do in the gym with the leg press. Shallow leg presses allows you to put a million plates on but you are doing less work than if you did deep leg presses working the muscle through the full range of motion. Look at video of Yates doing a leg press or a hack. It's deep.  

1. It's genetics he could go deeper but his legs are done.

2. Why isn't anyone making a vertical leg press?  If it's simple physics someone would have brought back a vertical leg press machine or bodybuilders using one would have superior leg development.

[SquatsRule]

It simple physics and the math is indisputable. The longer the range of motion the more work is being done.

He is doing what most do in the gym with the leg press. Shallow leg presses allows you to put a million plates on but you are doing less work than if you did deep leg presses working the muscle through the full range of motion. Look at video of Yates doing a leg press or a hack. It's deep.  

You must see it in the gym like I see it. Ego lifters always short stroking a movement so they can handle the big weights. If it wasn't for the short range of motion the weight used would be a lot less. I see guys doing half reps with shoulder presses, chest presses and a ton of other movements. Just so they can put the pin in the low slot, grab the big dumbbells or pile on the plates.  It's a delusional thing so they think they are strong. Just saw a guy lift 500lbs from his knees in a power rack. After his set I did it too. I can only lift on a good day 415lbs off the ground.

Rack pulls from the knee are a beneficial movement. Some of us can't pull off the floor anymore. Other that that, I agree with most of what you said about full range of motion.

[SquatsRule]

1. It's genetics he could go deeper but his legs are done.

2. Why isn't anyone making a vertical leg press?  If it's simple physics someone would have brought back a vertical leg press machine or bodybuilders using one would have superior leg development.

Gyms started buying the 45 degree presses because of safety and comfort. I like the vertical ones better though.

[FREAKgeek]

It simple physics and the math is indisputable. The longer the range of motion the more work is being done.

He is doing what most do in the gym with the leg press. Shallow leg presses allows you to put a million plates on but you are doing less work than if you did deep leg presses working the muscle through the full range of motion. Look at video of Yates doing a leg press or a hack. It's deep.  

You must see it in the gym like I see it. Ego lifters always short stroking a movement so they can handle the big weights. If it wasn't for the short range of motion the weight used would be a lot less. I see guys doing half reps with shoulder presses, chest presses and a ton of other movements. Just so they can put the pin in the low slot, grab the big dumbbells or pile on the plates.  It's a delusional thing so they think they are strong. Just saw a guy lift 500lbs from his knees in a power rack. After his set I did it too. I can only lift on a good day 415lbs off the ground.

No doubt that some of them are being delusional. But partials have their place - good for sticking points and getting accustomed. But I would never be caught doing them in a public gym.

[ratherbebig]

It simple physics and the math is indisputable. The longer the range of motion the more work is being done.

He is doing what most do in the gym with the leg press. Shallow leg presses allows you to put a million plates on but you are doing less work than if you did deep leg presses working the muscle through the full range of motion. Look at video of Yates doing a leg press or a hack. It's deep.  

You must see it in the gym like I see it. Ego lifters always short stroking a movement so they can handle the big weights. If it wasn't for the short range of motion the weight used would be a lot less. I see guys doing half reps with shoulder presses, chest presses and a ton of other movements. Just so they can put the pin in the low slot, grab the big dumbbells or pile on the plates.  It's a delusional thing so they think they are strong. Just saw a guy lift 500lbs from his knees in a power rack. After his set I did it too. I can only lift on a good day 415lbs off the ground.

1. considering how many times dorian injured himself i would think twice before using him as a role model.

2. with the same logic, full motion should go both ways which would mean locking the knees in start position, maybe that too would be beneficial.

3. the more work may be done, but what kinda of work? involving muscles youre not targeting? how about instead of that putting ALL your energy and time into the actual muscles youre targeting and not recruiting help from other muscles.

[Dave D]

Gyms started buying the 45 degree presses because of safety and comfort. I like the vertical ones better though.

I had vertical leg press that was given to me at 13 (my grandpa gave me his old equipment when he remodeled his home gym). It was sweet the rom was far superior to any movement/machine.

That said if rom was the end all then you would surely see some pro with great legs using a vertical press. But you don't because genetic response is the most important factor. 

OHearn squats heavy and he does multiple reps with moderate weight,  does he look any different over the last 20 years? Kevin hurt his back and his legs suffered, Ronnie hurt his and his whole body suffered. Full range exercises aren't fixing anything.

[Bevo]

You're forgetting

A non (or former) getbigger does NOTHING right.

If goes too deep, he is risking injury
If he goes too shallow, he isn't deep enough

Sounds like a sexual fantasy of yours

[On_Swole]

quarter reps

nice joint and tendon destroying workout without much stimulus to the muscle..

Funny because his bench and shoulderpress form is flawless

He's always used that range of motion, which is obviously sufficient if his legs back in the day were any indicator:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6644tpom6U&t=37s (if someone can embed that I'd appreciate it - keep getting invalid youtube link for some reason)

[Disgusted]

His range is fine. Kevin's outer quad sweep is gone. Due to age most likely. Could he get it back? Maybe but he's made is clear he's not going the anabolic chicken route at least that's what he said and if this is true then he's totally relying on old school anabolics with some GH. That in itself will not give him back his legs. I'm not saying using large amounts of igf slin and GH would but whether it would or not he's still not playing on a level playing field.  If he was 20 years younger and doing exactly the same things as the other guys were doing then I would go as far as to say Phil Heath would place second.

[Van_Bilderass]

Think about this. There's really no full range of motion for the targeted muscle in most
exercises. The quadricep does not extend fully even if you go real deep. The other joints
and muscles involved prevent that. A leg extension where you can stretch the muscle far
back in at the starting position would come closest. Plus you would have high tension at the contracted position
which you don't get leg pressing or squatting. Same with the bench press, just becuase you lower the bar to the chest
doesn't mean the pecs are fully stretched, a fly movement would be better for that. Or think about deadlifts, who decided on the diameter of 45lb plates decided "full range of motion"? The fact of the matter is you obviously don't need "full" range of motion to grow and most of the supposed best movements for growth are partials.
Now, loading the muscle at the stretched position is probably good for a growth stimulus, but again, not necessary.

If Kevin's legs aren't growing it's not because he doesn't go deep enough. Partial movements were sufficient in the past, as On_Swole said.

[NarcissisticDeity]

He's always used that range of motion, which is obviously sufficient if his legs back in the day were any indicator:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6644tpom6U&t=37s (if someone can embed that I'd appreciate it - keep getting invalid youtube link for some reason)