Big Ramy's cyle, true or not?

[El Diablo Blanco]

400 mg of orals a day.  Is he renting a liver and kidney?

[greeneyes]

Still less than Bostin Loyd cycle

[bigmikecox]

Where do you put 13g of oil per week lol?!
I'd believe half that, 7G a week is nuts even at pro levels. I just can't fathom 13g. You'd spend an hour a day pinning.

And the orals?! Between the orals the letro, his liver values would be fucked beyond belief. Can't sustain this at all. I don't think anyone could for months.

Bro that's what i was wondering.....

[El Diablo Blanco]

It was probably what DJ was telling him.  He probably injected him with 1/10th what was listed but charged him for the full dose.  Ramy doesn't know any better.  End of the week maybe he'll get 100 ius HGH and DJ will charge him for 300 ius. Then pocket the cash.

[goku]

The "myostatin blockers" says it all about the veracity of those claims.
I believe the insulin daily dose is the big responsible for his size. But that was not disclosed.

^ this. they didn't even mention the biggest piece to the puzzle - slin.
not to mention they spelt it as "miostatin"blockers!

likely using both lantus and humulin/log - a.m lantus and log with every meal + pre wo.
probably half that gh dose and ramp it up during contest prep when he'll need it most. igf will be ramped with the slin, doesn't need 36ius gh! sure he's using a high dose regardless....just not 36ius! but pre contest likely though,
pre contest little to no slin so more gh for more igf. take as much as can be bought!

3g of tren and 2g deca??
then 3g eq? no chance!  
all 3 have an impact on hematocrit...megadosing all 3 will blood have thickening like crazy.
deca and eq yes but id be surprised if hes going hard on the tren off season.
not when he can make more use of it pre contest and shock his body with it.
body definitely builds up a tolerance to drugs imo
anabolics off season and heavy androgens pre contest, no brainer!

my guess...4g test, 2g deca, 2g eq, dbol/drol in and out
100ius+ lantus a.m
20ius humalog with 3 or 4 meals + pre/pwo
16ius gh
100mg proviron or some a.i
massive carbs in diet.
i reckon something along those lines.
pre contest swap out deca and eq for tren and mast, dbol for var.
slin reduced to workout only or 2/3 x a day and gh ramped up.

[BigRo]

200 ius of slin a day? No way. 80 IU is more realistic guess.

[goku]

200 ius of slin a day? No way. 80 IU is more realistic guess.

200ius short acting slin is extremely high,
but 150-200ius from both long acting and short acting combined is easily done.

lantus doesn't peak and 100ius won't cause problems if on a high carb diet...which a 300lb ifbb pro will be! - its a long acting basal insulin so a background insulin that drip feeds throughout the entire day rather than an onset of insulin like bolus i.e. humalog/humalin.
the protocol for insulin replacement therapy is normally a basal-bolus mix of 50/50 each, ranging from 0.6-1.0iu's per kg
so if you weigh 100kg thats 60-100ius of insulin and 30-50ius coming from lantus and thats just a replacement dose.

100ius total insulin for a replacement dose...how much do you think a 300lb ifbb pro will be using?
again the dose isn't from bolus insulin alone.
i know two ukbff competitors (or have known from a few years ago) who used over 100ius of the above protocol of a basal/bolus insulin combination.

[falco]

    I remember Dennis James saying something about him having a great response to peptides, still, i believe there are no secrets, just big on insulin and feeding and obviously gh and steroids.

[lilhawk1]

Who the fuck takes 5 grams of test?

More believable is around the 5+ grams of total gear for a lot of top competitors

Anything over 10 I highly doubt many take or would make much a difference

5 grams of test is very common in top level bodybuilding.  That's just test, there are amateurs using that, as well as some gym rats.

[bigmikecox]

Im natural compared to this shit!!! 

[mazrim]

Do I think this is specifically it? Probably not but wouldn't be surprised if he used that amount at all. If grymkowski used as much as he said he did then I see no reason why a guy who dwarves him wouldn't use more. Though I too wouldn't know where to put it personally, lol.

[goku]

5 grams of test is very common in top level bodybuilding.  That's just test, there are amateurs using that, as well as some gym rats.

exactly, 5g test isn't the unrealistic part of that cycle, its the fact that he has mega doses of tren in there with mega doses of deca and eq along with the test.
also 36ius gh i believe...in fact expect him to use pre contest but off season?
thats nigh on the entire year constantly on high doses of tren and one geno pen everyday...bullshit imo.
gh 100% there in high amounts offseason but around half that dose and androgens saved for pre contest
nobody is using those doses of fda gh and tren for virtually the whole year.
just no need, circa 20ius fda gh with massive insulin use will ramp up igf through the roof (lantus was almost banned for its effect on igf-1)
slin reduced during contest prep...gh increased to compensate and of course for fat burning/muscle retention.

phil heath almost grows into the show, kai taken this approach since working with farah too - logical explanation is gh and tren blasted during contest prep. compensate for less slin

[chess315]

Well if someone was willing to go threw that they could brew super thin high dosage gear using ethyl olate and such you could use slin pins

[NotMrAverage]

Might be true. Look how he looks! But i personally from working in the biz for many years think its megadosing on slin (i talk 200-300 iu) combined with gh at around 24-36 iu pharmagrade. Because cycle did not include slin i call bull. And Milos is my friend.

[robcguns]

I believe it.Why not.im sure people have done more.If you have heard it it's prob been done.

[Notomorrow]

Found my old Underground Steroid Handbook by dan Duchaine. Here's what he thought in the 80's...imagine if he saw shit today...

UNDERGROUND STEROID HANDBOOK DAN DUCHAINE

Having just witnessed the men prepare for the USA's and the Olympia, here's the scoop...

OFF SEASON SHOTGUN STACK
Dianabol(10+ tabs daily)
Anadrol(2-3 tabs daily)
Sustanon(250mg/week)
Testosterone Cypionate(400mg+ week)
Finajet(30mg injection every other day)

PRECONTEST STACK
Protropin(1-4 I.U. Daily)
Winstrol V(50mg/day)
Masteron or Permastril(50mg daily)
Anavar(15-30 tabs daily...most can't get the new injection)
Nolvadex(20mg daily).

COMMENT  Again, I didn't create either stack, I'm just calling them as I see them. I think there are more effective precontest stacks, especially since I have not found GH to be anabolically effective. The offseason stack is rather common, although the counterfeited Finajets may well be just another testosterone if analyzed. This stack gets the size and weight up pronto but don't expect the user to be pleasant to be around.

[AusBB]

What is your take on this?

@250mg/ml, thats 20ml a week of test alone. How on earth could you put 20ml's of oil in his body a week?

Garbage.

[rangerwil]

@250mg/ml, thats 20ml a week of test alone. How on earth could you put 20ml's of oil in his body a week?

Garbage.

Thats a high number..FOR SURE.
But itis possible.
Think about it.

[robcguns]

@250mg/ml, thats 20ml a week of test alone. How on earth could you put 20ml's of oil in his body a week?

Garbage.

Think about the amount of oil some of the synthol guys inject daily,I'd say 20mls of oil a week is no big deal.

[Van_Bilderass]

Found my old Underground Steroid Handbook by dan Duchaine. Here's what he thought in the 80's...imagine if he saw shit today...

UNDERGROUND STEROID HANDBOOK DAN DUCHAINE

Having just witnessed the men prepare for the USA's and the Olympia, here's the scoop...

OFF SEASON SHOTGUN STACK
Dianabol(10+ tabs daily)
Anadrol(2-3 tabs daily)
Sustanon(250mg/week)
Testosterone Cypionate(400mg+ week)
Finajet(30mg injection every other day)

PRECONTEST STACK
Protropin(1-4 I.U. Daily)
Winstrol V(50mg/day)
Masteron or Permastril(50mg daily)
Anavar(15-30 tabs daily...most can't get the new injection)
Nolvadex(20mg daily).

COMMENT  Again, I didn't create either stack, I'm just calling them as I see them. I think there are more effective precontest stacks, especially since I have not found GH to be anabolically effective. The offseason stack is rather common, although the counterfeited Finajets may well be just another testosterone if analyzed. This stack gets the size and weight up pronto but don't expect the user to be pleasant to be around.

I remember reading in MM2K that people were pissing blood from 30mg of Finajet 3 times per week  
People, even some beginners, take double that weekly dose daily these days.

And Lol at people not being "pleasant to be around" on this monster stack.

It wouldn't be physically hard to do 50ml of steroids weekly but after a while it can get hard mentally, even though it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

[B R]

Healthy "sport"/lifestyle of peace.

[Fortress]

solid 3 gram purple physique

 

[Fortress]

Who knows if that's real. But I don't doubt the insane amounts some of these 'tards take.

Suicidal Edeavour of Peace

[NotMrAverage]

Duchaine even though he was a very interesting character was TOTALLY nuts on ghb and bain every day. These stacks are interesting to discuss but bullshit anyway. This is what gurus are paid to do and it wont leak. I think gh15 called some really fair shots on the subject.

Tren ace - as much as you can handle before going nuts = 100-300 mg day
Test - 1-2 ml sust each day
Dbol - 50mg aday
Gh pharmagrade 15-36 iu aday
Insulin: 200 iu aday

Lower test higher pure anabolics precontest. Change dbol to winstrol oral. Add cutting agents. This is close to the truth. Big bellys come from high slin + gh. Not gh alone.