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DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« on: September 13, 2018, 06:24:17 PM »
BAD REPUTATION

Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors: ‘All I Would Like Is to Be Paid’






Last week at the Toronto International Film Festival, Michael Moore debuted his latest film, Fahrenheit 11/9. The Daily Beast described the political documentary as a fast-paced, wide-reaching project, jumping from Flint, Michigan to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (and stopping along the way to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler). As Natalia Winkelman wrote, “Moore’s best zingers and most penetrating indictments land on the Democratic Party, whom he implicates (along with dominant liberal news media) as part of an establishment system continually churning in place to maintain the status quo and impede forward movement. He even calls out Obama on a few occasions: for letting down the people of Flint, for accepting Goldman Sachs money, for deporting immigrants, for drone strikes. But best of all, Moore acknowledges and emphasizes that he himself is not totally free from that establishment either.”

Apparently, Michael Moore is struggling to reconcile his revolutionary brand with his status as a famous, wealthy filmmaker. Simultaneously, critics of the documentarian are calling hypocrisy, insisting that Moore’s conduct is at odds with his reputation as a champion of the people.

In early June, Boston Light & Sound, Inc. filed a lawsuit against Moore’s Traverse City Film Festival. In the claim, BL&S stated that a total payment of $256,500 had been due by September 30, 2017, for their work on the 2017 film festival. “TCFF paid a $100,0000 deposit towards the Contract Amount on July 12, 2017,” legal docs claimed. “BL&S performed all of its obligations pursuant to the contract. However, since the 2017 film festival, TCFF has only paid an additional $2,000 toward the outstanding balance owed.” That brings the alleged balance down to $159,055.


Boston Light & Sound further alleged that, “On April 24, 2018, BL&S sent letters to TCFF requesting payment of the contract balance. However, rather than paying the contract balance, or any part thereof, in response to demand letters, TCFF attempted to avoid fulfilling its contractual obligation and the debt incurred by threatening to distribute false and defamatory stories to harm BL&S’ good name and business relationships.” The Traverse City Film Festival has denied these allegations.

In legal documents, the Traverse City Film Festival has countered, saying that the “budget” that BL&S attached to their claim is an “estimates for services, and does not constitute a ‘contract’ as alleged by BL&S… TCFF did not enter into a ‘contract’ with BL&S as alleged, and therefore has not refused to pay an outstanding contract balance.”


“All I can say is that there are no grounds, morally, ethically, business-wise, why they should not pay our bill,” Chapin Cutler told The Daily Beast. “We delivered the product, they consumed the product, there was no complaint about the product, and they had nothing bad to say about us, at all, until they filed the counterclaim in July.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-moore-accused-of-stiffing-smearing-vendors-all-i-would-like-is-to-be-paid?ref=scroll

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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 06:37:23 PM »
They just want to go through life bitching and complaining and having other people pay for their shit.



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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2018, 06:43:32 PM »
Poly - do you really care about this ?

before you answer keep in mind that Trump is accused by HUNDREDS of vendors/contrators not to mention business partners and banks

I'll be happy to post some links so we can all say what shitbags both Moore and Trump both are for ripping people off.

It would be cool to actually find something we agree about


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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2018, 06:44:54 PM »
Moore looks like a definite WalMart Scooter Rider.

What a fat f***.


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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2018, 06:57:35 PM »
Poly - do you really care about this ?

before you answer keep in mind that Trump is accused by HUNDREDS of vendors/contrators not to mention business partners and banks

I'll be happy to post some links so we can all say what shitbags both Moore and Trump both are for ripping people off.

It would be cool to actually find something we agree about



I'm here to keep discussions going and the forum active. It's my job bro.

That being said, Moore's behavior does not surprise me in the least. Going at least as far back as Karl Marx in the 1800s, it was the same playbook. Scorn others while living like a deadbeat teenager in your mother's basement and never paying your bills.

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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2018, 07:11:48 PM »
I'm here to keep discussions going and the forum active. It's my job bro.

That being said, Moore's behavior does not surprise me in the least. Going at least as far back as Karl Marx in the 1800s, it was the same playbook. Scorn others while living like a deadbeat teenager in your mother's basement and never paying your bills.

LOL - your job?

.......five minute pause from typing as I try to stop laughing

I thought your job was to not actually comment on the topic at hand and to engage in ad hominem attacks (let me know if you'd like to review some recent examples of this)

Back on topic

Isn't Moore just like Trump

Moore is a self made millionaire and unlike Trump he didn't get a million dollar gift from his father to start his business.

Moore is accused of stiffing a few vendors a film festival

Trump is accused of stiffing hundreds of workers, vendors, partners, etc.. over many many years.

Again, do you really care?

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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2018, 07:27:56 PM »
LOL - your job?

.......five minute pause from typing as I try to stop laughing

I thought your job was to not actually comment on the topic at hand and to engage in ad hominem attacks (let me know if you'd like to review some recent examples of this)

Back on topic

Isn't Moore just like Trump

Moore is a self made millionaire and unlike Trump he didn't get a million dollar gift from his father to start his business.

Moore is accused of stiffing a few vendors a film festival

Trump is accused of stiffing hundreds of workers, vendors, partners, etc.. over many many years.

Again, do you really care?

There were no ad hominem attacks at all.

I respect your right to post on this board and I will defend it as well but I'm sorry, you cannot force me to take you serious.

When you came out with your '10 clip magazine' statement I was looking at you kind of sideways.

But then you came out with your 'Bath Party in Iraq' post and it really began to sink in.

If I am with a group of people discussing world politics and someone says 'Bath' party while discussing the Middle East...I'm sorry, I'm out.

It stuck out like a really bad note in music. This guy who yells 'Trumptard' in every single post really doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2018, 07:41:20 PM »
There were no ad hominem attacks at all.

I respect your right to post on this board and I will defend it as well but I'm sorry, you cannot force me to take you serious.

When you came out with your '10 clip magazine' statement I was looking at you kind of sideways.

But then you came out with your 'Bath Party in Iraq' post and it really began to sink in.

If I am with a group of people discussing world politics and someone says 'Bath' party while discussing the Middle East...I'm sorry, I'm out.

It stuck out like a really bad note in music. This guy who yells 'Trumptard' in every single post really doesn't know what he's talking about.

wow - two typos

you really are a serious debater

I showed you multiple examples of different posts regarding the first one (again I'll be glad to re-post but I doubt anyone other than you gives a rats ass about the subject) and who gives a fuck how the Baath party is spelled.   Everyone knew exactly what I was talking about

Feel free to check out any of my recent posts and you'll find many examples of typos.

I see you're still avoiding the fact that Trump a world class deadbeat and thanks for proving my point about a so called moderator who spends his time making ad hominem attacks.


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Re: DEADBEAT!!!: Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2018, 07:54:41 PM »
wow - two typos

you really are a serious debater

I showed you multiple examples of different posts regarding the first one (again I'll be glad to re-post but I doubt anyone other than you gives a rats ass about the subject) and who gives a fuck how the Baath party is spelled.   Everyone knew exactly what I was talking about

Feel free to check out any of my recent posts and you'll find many examples of typos.

I see you're still avoiding the fact that Trump a world class deadbeat and thanks for proving my point about a so called moderator who spends his time making ad hominem attacks.



Not true at all.

My post history is easily accessible. Where are these examples of me "spending my time making ad hominem" attacks?

I'm here to improve the forum and keep the traffic count up.

Losing Rob hurt us all. I miss him so much.

Do you spam the forum with a bunch of articles and opinions or do you sprinkle them in?

It basically comes down to a balancing act.