Over Abundance Of Therapy/Service Dogs.

[Fallsview]

Goodmorrow,

Recently I went to Disney and I couldn't believe the amount of service/therapy dogs that were around. Poodles, dachshunds and every lap dog you could imagine. I was discussing this with a coworker when she said that her neighbor wasn't allowed to have a dog in their apartment complex but therapy/service dogs were ok.

I have no problem with people needing the emotional support of a dog but I'm seeing more and more people abuse this just because they need dog with them all the time. I understand Mike O'Hearn has his dog for when he visits the hospital every two years but this is outrageous. Why poeple go to stores and leave their dog in the car is bizarre. Just leave the dog home. Are they hurting for company? Some type of mental instability is happening here.

You can't eat peanuts in certain areas because of allergies but if your allergic to my therapy dog your SOL.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ratherbebig]

and whatabout snoop dog? somebody should have that dude on a tight leash

damn rappers

[mphgrove]

At least the airlines have been clamping down lately on therapy piglets and therapy snakes. A TSA agent was recently heard saying, “Oh how cute, we heard a little piggy was coming through.” Now I hear it is certified service animals only.

[mphgrove]

Goodmorrow,

Recently I went to Disney and I couldn't believe the amount of service/therapy dogs that were around. Poodles, dachshunds and every lap dog you could imagine. I was discussing this with a coworker when she said that her neighbor wasn't allowed to have a dog in their apartment complex but therapy/service dogs were ok.

I have no problem with people needing the emotional support of a dog but I'm seeing more and more people abuse this just because they need dog with them all the time. I understand Mike O'Hearn has his dog for when he visits the hospital every two years but this is outrageous. Why poeple go to stores and leave their dog in the car is bizarre. Just leave the dog home. Are they hurting for company? Some type of mental instability is happening here.

You can't eat peanuts in certain areas because of allergies but if your allergic to my therapy dog your SOL.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And a couple of years ago I went to Disney with my nephew and we went right to the front of all the lines because his fiancée went to the front office and said she experienced anxiety and got a special pass. It was embarrassing. But I hear they have recently clamped down on that too.

[ratherbebig]

And a couple of years ago I went to Disney with my nephew and we went right to the front of all the lines because his fiancée went to the front office and said she experienced anxiety. It was embarrassing. But I hear they have recently clamped down on that too.

i tried the same at last years mr olympia and all i got was a "nice try schmoe"

[myt1]

I have a note for my dog for where I live, and having her has been a big difference for me.  I do take her with me in my suv often as she loves it, but not if she's going to be in there for more than 2-3 minutes of me not being able to see outside to keep an eye on my vehicle with her in it.

I totally agree with you on the abuse of it.  If a person is blind/poor eyesight then fine, bring it into the grocery store (although I don't know HTF that person would be able to see labels of what they're buying)  To all others, keep your fucking dog out of the store....especially the damn produce section or areas where things aren't wrapped, boxed, canned.  I don't wanna hear any shit about, "but my dogs a short-hair".  Fuck you!  So is mine, and I fill at least 1 canister on my Shark vacuum e.o.d. with her hair.

I was at the grocery last week, and a guy and his wife had a dog with a service vest, but it said "in training" on it.  I could tell it was some kind of Shepherd breed, but it wasn't brown like a German.  

I asked "what type of Shephard is that?"  He told me Alaskan IIRC.  I said "she's very pretty, and doing really well in here.  seems like you got a good one" as I reached down slowly and put my hand out (palm towards me) like you should do when approaching a dog that doesn't know you for the first time for it to smell you.  The dog gave a sniff, and gave me the "you're ok" look, but then the guy jerked it back and yapped at me "what are you doing?  she's a therapy animal......would you reach out to touch someone's oxygen tank?"  I explained calmly while stepping back that I had one too, and that I was trying to help him to get her used to strangers in a noisy/busy environment, and that doing what he did was going to make his dog become anxious....the reason he has her is PTSD he told me.  Apparently, he needs one for low IQ as well.  

I walked on, and as I turned down the next aisle I could hear him ranting and then his wife telling him to calm the fuck down, that I was being nice, and actually approached the dog the way their instructor told them to ask people to do when meeting her.  Dude needs his woman, more than the dog.....I hate to say it, but at least the woman can be rational

[Humble Narcissist]

Soon liberals will have service animals for their PTSD from toxic masculinity or Trump's presidency.

[oldtimer1]

Just another liberal scam. I saw a dog with a jacket in a supermarket. Every member of the family had a turn holding the leash. I'm a dog lover but seeing dogs in fine restaurants is crossing the line. Anyone can get a service dog jacket on the internet. Many vets will issue a certificate to anyone who wants one for their dog. Federal law says the only question you can ask someone with a dog is if it's a service dog. If they answer yes you can't question anymore.  Dogs were for blind people. Then it moved on to people with seizures. Now it's everyone who needs a dog to cheer them up. Just a scam so people can take their dogs everywhere.

[IroNat]

People are whacky about their dogs and cats.

A couple I met the other day has 10 dogs!

WTF.

The service dog thing is out of control.

Do they have "service cats"?

[Humble Narcissist]

People are whacky about their dogs and cats.

A couple I met the other day has 10 dogs!

WTF.

The service dog thing is out of control.

Do they have "service cats"?

Yes.  There are service lizards, hamsters, parrots, etc, etc.

[oldtimer1]

By Federal law the only service animal can be a dog. Now states might have their own laws.

[Humble Narcissist]

By Federal law the only service animal can be a dog. Now states might have their own laws.

I know these animals have been used on airlines.  They must have their own rules but I know a few are cracking down now.  Imagine sitting next to a service pig on a 8 hour flight.

[The Scott]

I know these animals have been used on airlines.  They must have their own rules but I know a few are cracking down now.  Imagine sitting next to a service pig on a 8 hour flight.

Now that, was damn funny!  "Imagine sitting next to a service pig on a 8 hour flight" brings to mind an obese woman wearing a vest that says "Service Pig"...

[Royalty]

Goodmorrow,

Recently I went to Disney and I couldn't believe the amount of service/therapy dogs that were around. Poodles, dachshunds and every lap dog you could imagine. I was discussing this with a coworker when she said that her neighbor wasn't allowed to have a dog in their apartment complex but therapy/service dogs were ok.

I have no problem with people needing the emotional support of a dog but I'm seeing more and more people abuse this just because they need dog with them all the time. I understand Mike O'Hearn has his dog for when he visits the hospital every two years but this is outrageous. Why poeple go to stores and leave their dog in the car is bizarre. Just leave the dog home. Are they hurting for company? Some type of mental instability is happening here.

You can't eat peanuts in certain areas because of allergies but if your allergic to my therapy dog your SOL.




STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have noticed that nearly 100% of the owners of service dogs are perpetually single. Their dog is their only friend.

[funk51]

some guy around here has a therapy alligator. lets people pet it and everything. for some reason it has a good disposition.

[mphgrove]

By Federal law the only service animal can be a dog. Now states might have their own laws.

Service animals are different from “therapy” animals. Service animals (dogs) have a special certification and training and I believe are protected under the federal ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act). They cannot be barred from airlines or markets, apartments, etc. (e.g., for blind people or wounded veterans).  The problem is with “therapy animals” which can be any kind of animal and for which doctors and other health care professionals have been writing letters and for which you can also send away online for official looking certificates. In the past and still now, airline supervisors, restaurant owners, apartment landlords have been conned by these letters and the begging customers for fear of “discrimination”  or lawsuits. But that is now coming to an end to a great extent.

[myt1]

Just another liberal scam. I saw a dog with a jacket in a supermarket. Every member of the family had a turn holding the leash. I'm a dog lover but seeing dogs in fine restaurants is crossing the line. Anyone can get a service dog jacket on the internet. Many vets will issue a certificate to anyone who wants one for their dog. Federal law says the only question you can ask someone with a dog is if it's a service dog. If they answer yes you can't question anymore.  Dogs were for blind people. Then it moved on to people with seizures. Now it's everyone who needs a dog to cheer them up. Just a scam so people can take their dogs everywhere.

It started, because apartment complex, and home/condo owners would not rent or lease to people with dogs.  I believe that is wrong, and I'm glad that Drs. started seeing it that way, and happily write a "fuck you note" to those owners that discriminate against people that do benefit.  People that have notes for that reason, and then abuse it by taking their dog into restaurants or grocery stores should have the shit kicked out of them.

Regarding the perpetually single comment made:
I'd say that's a spot on observation, and pretty much 100% true to be honest.  I can only speak for myself, but once I hit 40 and had not met "the one" to marry and have kids with, being in a long-term is no longer a want at all.  Doesn't mean I won't consider it if I meet a woman that I can tolerate being around all the time, but it's no longer something I think about or seek. I'm not part of whatever that alphabet soup movement is that's been mentioned on this site. 

Having a dog as single man, and living in a place that has a few city dog parks is better than the bars for dating girls. You don't even have to try if your dog is friendly, well-behaved, and "cute".  The "awww"'s break the ice, and start a conversation very comfortably and easily.  If I think about it in a warped sense, it's actually a great tool to condition women to ask your permission as after they do their little "awww she's so cute" (while doing that stupid little hand clap thing chicks do), the first thing out of their mouth is "can I pet her?" 
Bars/clubs still own the shit outta dog parks for getting laid quick though.

[IroNat]

It started, because apartment complex, and home/condo owners would not rent or lease to people with dogs.  I believe that is wrong, and I'm glad that Drs. started seeing it that way, and happily write a "fuck you note" to those owners that discriminate against people that do benefit.  People that have notes for that reason, and then abuse it by taking their dog into restaurants or grocery stores should have the shit kicked out of them.

Regarding the perpetually single comment made:
I'd say that's a spot on observation, and pretty much 100% true to be honest.  I can only speak for myself, but once I hit 40 and had not met "the one" to marry and have kids with, being in a long-term is no longer a want at all.  Doesn't mean I won't consider it if I meet a woman that I can tolerate being around all the time, but it's no longer something I think about or seek. I'm not part of whatever that alphabet soup movement is that's been mentioned on this site. 

Having a dog as single man, and living in a place that has a few city dog parks is better than the bars for dating girls. You don't even have to try if your dog is friendly, well-behaved, and "cute".  The "awww"'s break the ice, and start a conversation very comfortably and easily.  If I think about it in a warped sense, it's actually a great tool to condition women to ask your permission as after they do their little "awww she's so cute" (while doing that stupid little hand clap thing chicks do), the first thing out of their mouth is "can I pet her?" 
Bars/clubs still own the shit outta dog parks for getting laid quick though.

Landlords don't want pets because they cause damage.  They piss and sh*t on the rugs and in the yard, gnaw and claw on woodwork, etc.

Some do allow pets but charge extra damage deposit and higher rent.  People with pets have to rent from pet-friendly landlords.

Totally appropriate to not allow pets in your rental.

Same with renting to smokers.

[myt1]

Landlords don't want pets because they cause damage.  They piss and sh*t on the rugs and in the yard, gnaw and claw on woodwork, etc.

Some do allow pets but charge extra damage deposit and higher rent.  People with pets have to rent from pet-friendly landlords.

Totally appropriate to not allow pets in your rental.

Same with renting to smokers.

I totally get it, but people with pets would have few places to go, and apartment complexes would way easier and cheaper to get into.  So both parties lose out.  Also, a lot of people that rent do way more damage than a dog would.  Since it's not their's they don't give a shit while living there often, and if there's any dispute with the landlord that causes them to move they will take it out on the place when they leave.

I'm pretty lucky as far as accidents go with my dog.  Other than as a puppy there's only been one major incident.  I lived on the ground floor, and the fuckhead on the 3rd was apparently throwing his cig butts off the balcony all winter.  I would just open the patio door to let my dog out while on a retractable leash.  The snow had mostly melted, and I was not paying attention.  She's part lab so she's always got her nose to the ground....makes it hard to tell when she picks up something and eats it.  I came home from a 10 hour workday, which has never been an issue for her, and smelled an overwhelming odor of shit the second I entered.  I was pissed until I saw poop stains everywhere.  16 in total, mostly just little diarrhea, but you could see the two that started it all as there was cigarette butts in both of those somewhat solid poop piles.  

I have a carpet cleaner machine so I used that a couple of times, and two years later when I moved I did them again.  A couple weeks later I got my full deposit back, and a phone call from the resident manager thanking me for doing such a good job cleaning the carpets.  She said "I can't believe you lived there for 4 years, AND had a dog.  The carpets were better than any unit I've ever had to turn over, and the first tour I gave said "this is great, we even get new carpeting" "  I just chuckled, said thanks, and your welcome.  After hanging up I just thought, "wow....if she only knew"  LOL!

[Powerlift66]

Dogs > People.

Landlords will "rent" to the scum of the earth (think Section 8 housing), but don't you dare have a dog?
We just spent 4K for almost a years worth of training on our rescue. (100.00 a week for 10 months), most tards wont spend 400.00.

People are the Tards.

[IroNat]

You guys are the exceptions.

People are the problem absolutely.

However, dogs and cats can do damage.  Also they leave hair and dandruff around which some people are allergic to.

Just another headache for a landlord that they don't need.

The majority of landlords don't intentionally rent to bad tenants. 

[Humble Narcissist]

You guys are the exceptions.

People are the problem absolutely.

However, dogs and cats can do damage.  Also they leave hair and dandruff around which some people are allergic to.

Just another headache for a landlord that they don't need.

The majority of landlords don't intentionally rent to bad tenants. 

The only people effected by pet dandruff and hair probably don't live in the apartment.  People who don't ever have pets are weird.

[mphgrove]

I rent to dogs but my two biggest problems have been dog related. A fight between my tenant and next door neighbor related to picking up after dog (cops called). And my upstairs neighbor too lazy to take her elderly dogs out any more (they have arthritis) and the smell coming into part of a closet. But I still rent to dogs, more than half of people seem to have them.

[myt1]

I rent to dogs but my two biggest problems have been dog related. A fight between my tenant and next door neighbor related to picking up after dog (cops called). And my upstairs neighbor too lazy to take her elderly dogs out any more (they have arthritis) and the smell coming into part of a closet. But I still rent to dogs, more than half of people seem to have them.

Other than taking some complaint phone calls before it got to the point of the cops, was this really a time consuming thing for you?  Once the cops were called, as a landlord you're pretty much of it, aren't you?  Just curious.   

Here, the complexes will give you a warning or two if you're caught not picking up, and then it's $50 fine each time...it's in the lease, so if they don't pay they can be evicted.  On top of that local law is to pick up as well. Fine is up to $500   A person caught not picking up in any of the city's dog parks can be permanently banned...not the dog, but the person.  As in, they can be fine/arrested for trespassing even if they just went there to watch other dogs play while leaving their dog home.  Pretty good deterrents here.

I know way more cops and paramedics than most people from working at gyms, and the grossest stories I've been told have all been about old people that couldn't care for themselves regarding their living conditions; or finding seniors that hadn't been heard from in weeks, dead with maggots and flies everywhere.  I get the heebie-jeebies just thinking about one in particular I was told about.