Author Topic: Parkland Officer Who Stayed Outside During Shooting Faces Criminal Charges  (Read 7806 times)

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out of curiosity how do you answer the following:

- hostage situation at a bank, unknown no of robbers. 1 cop - does he go in guns blazing?

- witness report shots heard fired from 1% motorcycle club. 1 cop arrives at the scene - does he go in?

- shouts heard from what seems to be the ice machine at the mirage. 1 cop at the scene - does he go in?

Typical liberal idiot tactic.  Instead of discussing the topic at hand and what actually happened, you go into hypothetical "what ifs".  When you ask stupid questions, you will often get stupid answers...............wh ich I'm sure is what you want.  Distract, divert, dumb down.

At this point there have been enough school shootings for cops to have a reasonable idea what is going on.  It probably isn't a bunch of ninjas or mercenaries trying to overthrow the United States.  It's usually 1 or 2 untrained pukes that will slay their classmates and then cap themselves as soon as they are met with the slightest bit of armed resistance.

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out of curiosity how do you answer the following:

- hostage situation at a bank, unknown no of robbers. 1 cop - does he go in guns blazing?

- witness report shots heard fired from 1% motorcycle club. 1 cop arrives at the scene - does he go in?

- shouts heard from what seems to be the ice machine at the mirage. 1 cop at the scene - does he go in?

You shoudn't go in guns blazing, but you should at least try and get an idea of what you are dealing with. Then decide if you hunker down or engage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/us/scot-peterson-video-footage-parkland-shooting.html?module=inline .

Here are the State's bones of contention -

1) He didn’t go into the building during the shooting or investigate the source of the gunfire.

Mr. Peterson had been trained that officers responding to an active shooter must “immediately go to confront the shooter” and “move directly and quickly toward known threat.”

But he did not enter the 1200 building at the school, where the gunman was shooting students and teachers, according to an affidavit filed in support of the warrant for his arrest.

2) Instead, he retreated to another building nearby.

Mr. Peterson fled to a spot about 75 feet away from the 1200 building, “remaining there during the entire incident” in what the affidavit described as “a position of increased personal safety.”  The affidavit also quoted a student, Arman Borghei, who said that as shots were being fired in the 1200 building, he looked out a window and saw Mr. Peterson: “I just saw him standing on the side of the building with his gun drawn, not really doing anything.”

3) He advised other law enforcement officers to remain away from the building.

At 2:28 p.m. — seven minutes after the gunman entered the building — Mr. Peterson said over the radio: “Broward, do not approach the 12 or 1300 buildings. Stay at least 500 feet away at this point.” During the time Mr. Peterson remained outside the building, the gunman shot and killed six of his victims, including five students, and wounded four others, according to the affidavit. Seven of those victims were students under the age of 18, which is why Mr. Peterson was charged with seven counts of felony neglect of a child.

Mr. Peterson was charged with perjury for making a false statement that he did not hear any shots fired after he arrived at the building, except for the first two or three shots he heard, according to the affidavit.

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I am willing to forgive him on 1 and 2. Fog of War, no one knows how they will react. But #3 is indefensible.


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Typical liberal idiot tactic.  Instead of discussing the topic at hand and what actually happened, you go into hypothetical "what ifs".  When you ask stupid questions, you will often get stupid answers...............wh ich I'm sure is what you want.  Distract, divert, dumb down.

At this point there have been enough school shootings for cops to have a reasonable idea what is going on.  It probably isn't a bunch of ninjas or mercenaries trying to overthrow the United States.  It's usually 1 or 2 untrained pukes that will slay their classmates and then cap themselves as soon as they are met with the slightest bit of armed resistance.

but the general idea seems to be that 1 lone cop ALWAYS should dive head first into any situation, that doesnt seem reasonable, in fact is that even protocol? isnt awaiting for backup what a lone cop should be doing in pretty much every situation?


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Mr. Peterson had been trained that officers

officers as in several or just one?

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but the general idea seems to be that 1 lone cop ALWAYS should dive head first into any situation


I do not accept your false premise.

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I do not accept your false premise.

all this time theyve done it wrong.

police having partners. swat team being a team.

it just takes one cop to handle a situation, doesnt matter if he's up against schoolshooters, terrorists, gangbangers... when he hear the gun shot, he goes and take care of business. when they call him on the radio he responds "i got this. do not. i repeat. do not send backup. no need".


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all this time theyve done it wrong.

police having partners. swat team being a team.

it just takes one cop to handle a situation, doesnt matter if he's up against schoolshooters, terrorists, gangbangers... when he hear the gun shot, he goes and take care of business. when they call him on the radio he responds "i got this. do not. i repeat. do not send backup. no need".



This would be a compelling argument to someone who didn't take the time to learn what actually happened on that day.

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I think that prosecuting this guy is unjust.  Fire him, ban him from law enforcement, sure.  What they are doing is treating him like he shot those kids.  He did not.

He bitched out, which a lot of people would do if they were asked to charge in and face an active shooter situation.  He deserves a bit of scorn and punishment.  He does not deserve to go to prison.

I'm angry with him, I'm deeply saddened and disappointed with his actions.  Regardless, he doesn't deserve to be made a scapegoat.

I agree with you. The one responsible for the shooting was the shooter.

Tactics originally taught was that you wait for a team of four to enter an active shooter. The newest training that started about 15 years ago is that the first to arrive goes in alone.  The second to arrive goes in alone. Only when four arrive together as cars rush to the active shooter goes in what's called a diamond formation.  If I understand correctly there was a female Captain that arrived too and ordered the men to hang back until more cops arrived that violated the current tactics used.

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He worked as a Deputy for 32 years and retired in 2010.   He doesn't lose his pension because he's earned it long before this ever happened.  


The charges are bullshit because a police officer is not a caregiver or parent.   The man's obviously being used as a political scrapegoat   .   The only party that is guilty is Nicolas Cruz who actually shot the people.   A police officer has no obligation to run into a building like TJ Hooker no more than a firefighter having an obligation to run into a burning building to rescue some moron who ran back in their house for their cell phone.   BTW, the shooting lasted for 6 minutes so there was never an opportunity to save those people

The charges will be dropped but he's going to likely sue the County and I honestly couldn't blame him.   If they want change, then pass some gun control laws or arm teachers and have metal detectors and remove the trash from classrooms

Yep he was not legally a caregiver with direct responsibility for the welfare of the students. Even if convicted it will be overturned on appeal.

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I agree with you. The one responsible for the shooting was the shooter.

Tactics originally taught was that you wait for a team of four to enter an active shooter. The newest training that started about 15 years ago is that the first to arrive goes in alone.  The second to arrive goes in alone. Only when four arrive together as cars rush to the active shooter goes in what's called a diamond formation.  If I understand correctly there was a female Captain that arrived too and ordered the men to hang back until more cops arrived that violated the current tactics used.

Yes, it seems like there was an organizational failure there too, not just one man.

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F'ing coward.

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That's very magnanimous of you.................cons idering that it wasn't your kids that got shot to hell while he played with his dick in the parking lot.

He was looking at pictures of your mother while playing with said dick.

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He was looking at pictures of your mother while playing with said dick.

Clothed or unclothed?

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Clothed or unclothed?

He wasn't wearing any clothes.