serious question: What era or time period does MAGA refer to ?

[JustPlaneJane]

This. Young males these days are taught, encouraged and glorified for showing effeminate traits. It's disgusting.

Exactly, about 1/2 the male kids in the U.S. are being raised by single mothers

[TheGrinch]

Exactly, about 1/2 the male kids in the U.S. are being raised by single mothers

"TOXIC Masculinity"

[Theoak*]

I know you believe that, so I won't insult you or waste time countering it.
Thanks for giving you honest beliefs on this.
BUT, you're on the wrong side of history with those views.

My wife has an expression about this ; " A woman without a career and money, is a woman without power."

Obviously, the traditional nuclear family of the 1950's had it's positive aspects.
But it locked woman into being subservient to their working husbands.
Yes, some woman CHOOSE to be stay at home mom's and that's fine.

I think we'd both agree being a working single/divorced mother is a tough, stressful role.
Freedom to choose, comes with personal responsibility.

I believe  EVERYONE should have the right to CHOOSE their own lifestyle and career path.
How well they do , is up to their own drive, talent ,circumstances and (maybe)a little luck.

What are women?  Mindless baby making machines.  What is the goal of a woman?  To subjugate a man's entire life and redirect all of his goals, ambitions, free time, money, and any other type of resource he has and direct it into serving her goals instead.

Lol.  It is sad, you  see people in the media make dumb comments claiming things like "oh, women are complicated, men just don't understand them".  No.  This is not how it works at all.  Women are extremely primitive, easily predictable creatures. Just because you don't want it to be this way, doesn't mean that's not how it is.

If you've ever studied anything about trying to create AI you would easily figure it out.  It's not possible for 'intelligence' to just spontaneously appear out of nothing.  To create AI, you would have to give it some type of Freudian-like prime directive, whether it's to replicate itself, gather resources, or whatever.  AI can't just exist with no purpose.  Just like biological women cannot exist without some type of purpose.  Their directives and method of operation are narrowly defined and easily identifiable.

[Theoak*]

Like it or not Empowering Women is / was the Beginning of The Downfall of our Society

Western civilization is a gynocentric empire of nothingness that focuses on empowering female hedonism.  This makes western females completely unpalatable to the senses, untrustworthy, a blackhole to waste resources on, etc.  I'm not going to be some type of sellout like Howard , so the only option is to just refer to women as stupid, or destroy civilization and rebuild something different.

[TheGrinch]

Western civilization is a gynocentric empire of nothingness that focuses on empowering female hedonism.  This makes western females completely unpalatable to the senses, untrustworthy, a blackhole to waste resources on, etc.  I'm not going to be some type of sellout like Howard , so the only option is to just refer to women as stupid, or destroy civilization and rebuild something different.

They keep taking down the original and any copy of the video anywhere online...  

Where exactly is free speech?

[illuminati]

Western civilization is a gynocentric empire of nothingness that focuses on empowering female hedonism.  This makes western females completely unpalatable to the senses, untrustworthy, a blackhole to waste resources on, etc.  I'm not going to be some type of sellout like Howard , so the only option is to just refer to women as stupid, or destroy civilization and rebuild something different.

You say a lot of honest sense
We have similar thoughts & ideas

[Humble Narcissist]

What are women?  Mindless baby making machines.  What is the goal of a woman?  To subjugate a man's entire life and redirect all of his goals, ambitions, free time, money, and any other type of resource he has and direct it into serving her goals instead.

Lol.  It is sad, you  see people in the media make dumb comments claiming things like "oh, women are complicated, men just don't understand them".  No.  This is not how it works at all.  Women are extremely primitive, easily predictable creatures. Just because you don't want it to be this way, doesn't mean that's not how it is.

If you've ever studied anything about trying to create AI you would easily figure it out.  It's not possible for 'intelligence' to just spontaneously appear out of nothing.  To create AI, you would have to give it some type of Freudian-like prime directive, whether it's to replicate itself, gather resources, or whatever.  AI can't just exist with no purpose.  Just like biological women cannot exist without some type of purpose.  Their directives and method of operation are narrowly defined and easily identifiable.

I swear Oak, if there was a best poster of the week award you won it last week.  Speaking pure truth!

[illuminati]

Back in the 50's and 60's the avg CEO made about 20x the salary of the avg worker in the same company.
Most companies offered good benefits and retirement pensions, etc.
By 2000 the avg CEO pay expanded to 361 x the avg worker in the same company.
Retirements pensions were phased out and high level executives bought that 2nd yacht .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dianahembree/2018/05/22/ceo-pay-skyrockets-to-361-times-that-of-the-average-worker/#2a63ac0e776d

You wrongly assume  most woman want to be under the thumb of men. They don't.
Back in my parents and your grandparents days, females had few choices.
They had to stay married to men who cheated on them or abused them.
It was either put up with a lousy husband OR risk being piss broke with starving kids.

I prefer a world where females have a CHOICE of how they want to live.
My wife is very successful in her career but very feminine and loyal to me.

She makes a lot more then I ever did and is with me for love NOT money.
TOGETHER we've combined assets and enjoy a nice lifestyle .

You are very fortunate to have such a wife
She is a rarity being like that in this day & age

Majority are fucked up in the head & have no clue what they really want
What with MSM & Cuckold Liberals Feeding them Daft ideas.
We’ll be long gone ( & I’m thankful of that ) Dread to think what western world
Society will be like in Say 100yrs if it continues to switch to a Matriarchal rather
Than a Patriarchal society - It’ll be easy pickings for China / Russia if they remain
Patriarchal .

[Humble Narcissist]

Back in the 50's and 60's the avg CEO made about 20x the salary of the avg worker in the same company.
Most companies offered good benefits and retirement pensions, etc.
By 2000 the avg CEO pay expanded to 361 x the avg worker in the same company.
Retirements pensions were phased out and high level executives bought that 2nd yacht .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dianahembree/2018/05/22/ceo-pay-skyrockets-to-361-times-that-of-the-average-worker/#2a63ac0e776d

You wrongly assume  most woman want to be under the thumb of men. They don't.
Back in my parents and your grandparents days, females had few choices.
They had to stay married to men who cheated on them or abused them.
It was either put up with a lousy husband OR risk being piss broke with starving kids.

I prefer a world where females have a CHOICE of how they want to live.
My wife is very successful in her career but very feminine and loyal to me.

She makes a lot more then I ever did and is with me for love NOT money.
TOGETHER we've combined assets and enjoy a nice lifestyle .

A) Those people in the past created a great civilization with their values and lifestyle.
B)  You've been divorced numerous times.  Question: In any of your divorces were you abusing your wife?

[loco]

Back in the 50's and 60's the avg CEO made about 20x the salary of the avg worker in the same company.
Most companies offered good benefits and retirement pensions, etc.
By 2000 the avg CEO pay expanded to 361 x the avg worker in the same company.
Retirements pensions were phased out and high level executives bought that 2nd yacht .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dianahembree/2018/05/22/ceo-pay-skyrockets-to-361-times-that-of-the-average-worker/#2a63ac0e776d

You wrongly assume  most woman want to be under the thumb of men. They don't.
Back in my parents and your grandparents days, females had few choices.
They had to stay married to men who cheated on them or abused them.
It was either put up with a lousy husband OR risk being piss broke with starving kids.

I prefer a world where females have a CHOICE of how they want to live.
My wife is very successful in her career but very feminine and loyal to me.

She makes a lot more then I ever did and is with me for love NOT money.
TOGETHER we've combined assets and enjoy a nice lifestyle .

Which one?   

[TheGrinch]

Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/today-s-masculinity-is-stifling

[illuminati]

Not true.

The feminization of young males over the last 25 years has caused more issues in society than a few strong successful women ever did.

Please watch / listen it makes a lot of sense
I don’t hate women well not most of them it’s what been done / happening to them.

[illuminati]

Thanks for the kind words about my lovely wife.
I as married 2x before this one and she was married once for several years.
TOGETHER we've combined resources and enjoy a comfortable lifestyle.

I'm older now, (in my 60's) and am disgusted by the lack of masculine character in many younger men.
Plenty of "mommy's boys" who want a woman to take care of them and/or kiss their ass.
Ol' John Wayne of Hollywood's golden era is a great character example of how to respect woman WITHOUT losing masculinity.

At the risk of ridicule here, my wife said I reminded her of " Rhett Butler" played by Clark Gable in Gone With the Wind.
LOL, I don't LOOK like him, but she claims I BEHAVED like him.
I treated like a lady , brought her flowers and courted her.

But she knew I was a man and wasn't going to kiss her ass .
Like ol' Rhett , once I knew my 2nd wife was cheating on me , I filed for divorce and left with my dignity.
I didn't beg for her to stay or change. I didn't yell at her and act like some possessed psycho.

Nope, I was firm in telling her I wouldn't be married to a wife that wanted to be with other men.
I even helped her to pack her car and wished her well as she left.
My own equivalent of ; " Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn."

To me the real key is to love , trust and respect a woman worthy of your love.
Treat her in a manner your proud off , regardless of what happens.
BUT, if things go bad, "big time" , you stay firm and leave with your values and dignity intact.

Good to read your happy & positive
I’m Happy For You Howard

[chaos]

In my experience a man is much better off establishing a loving relationship with a woman based on mutual respect.

How many wives did it take for you to figure that out?

[Humble Narcissist]

A)The generation that grew up in the depression and fought WWII are considered "the greatest generation" by many.
My own dad was part of that generation and I always thought he was a man of admirable work ethic.

B) I've only been married 3x despite  my goofy jokes and never cheated or was abusive.
Cliff notes - 1st wife changed a couple yrs in and decided she wanted kids. I never did, so we divorced.
2nd wife screwed around me and had no desire to change, so we divorced.

My 3rd ( current) wife is a wonderful woman that is a pretty ,loyal and loving partner.
This was her 2nd marriage and we learned some valuable life lessons in our previous experience.

2) That's my point.  Women are not getting divorced today because of abuse.

[AbrahamG]

You're 100% right .
I suspect some are getting divorced from abusive men, but plenty get divorced for other reasons.
I didn't bother trying to google a study because the numbers may only reflect how the divorce was filed.

Plenty of bad, dysfunctional shit can go on that will never see the light of day.
I just think it's good that both men and women have the option to end the marriage if it doesn't work out.

My 1st wife, developed a sincere desire to have children 2 yrs into the marriage.
I never wanted kids and she came into the marriage feeling the same. She changed, I didn't.
If we'd have remained married, one of us would have had a life they hated.

She would have been forced to give up her desire to have children OR
I would have been forced to be a parent.
In either case, one of us would have been very unhappy and would resent the other.

By divorcing we both ended up getting the lifestyle we wanted.
I never had kids and last I heard she was with a man that had young kids and loved being "mommy"
FYI, we met in a gym a couple years after the divorce and had a nice , brief reunion.

Did you give her one last howitzer for old time sake?

[Howard]

Did you give her one last howitzer for old time sake?

" howitzer" hahahaha,  good zinger , but not at this 2 yr gym mini-reunion.

I know some will call "BS" but wanting to screw me, was never a problem in any marriage or relationship.
In fact, the weekend before we signed the divorce papers, we did the deed . 100% serious.

About 6 mos after I divorced my 2nd wife , she called and we hooked up several times.
WE even went on a few fun trips together.
She really preferred a "friends w/benefits" relationship .

Yup, we hooked up on weekends and once in a while during a weekday or took a trip, etc
BUT she wanted to live separately and that felt "empty" after awhile, so I totally broke it off.
She was a cool,  pretty woman that was fun to hang out with.
So, I have some good feelings about our marriage/relationship and no regrets about the divorce or ending it.

[chaos]

" howitzer" hahahaha,  good zinger , but not at this 2 yr gym mini-reunion.

I know some will call "BS" but wanting to screw me, was never a problem in any marriage or relationship.
In fact, the weekend before we signed the divorce papers, we did the deed . 100% serious.

About 6 mos after I divorced my 2nd wife , she called and we hooked up several times.
WE even went on a few fun trips together.
She really preferred a "friends w/benefits" relationship .

Yup, we hooked up on weekends and once in a while during a weekday or took a trip, etc
BUT she wanted to live separately and that felt "empty" after awhile, so I totally broke it off.
She was a cool,  pretty woman that was fun to hang out with.
So, I have some good feelings about our marriage/relationship and no regrets about the divorce or ending it.

Nudes?

[AbrahamG]

LOL   Thanks for asking but NO.

Both of my ex-wives moved on years ago and I wouldn't do anything to affect them now.
On a serious note, I respect their privacy and they always did the same for me.

Did either have a penchant for being buttocks fucked?