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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2019, 06:00:13 PM »
ratherbebig,

Can I be trusted? Yes.

I am here to promote regular exercise, caloric restriction, and vices on the weekends only [or less]. I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, and want to encourage others to follow a similar lifestyle. We see TOMMY PHEIL lift heavy at over 50, but Mother Nature and Father Time is not so kind to everyone else.

At 37, I take NOTHING for granted.

that is a fast mile, the assessment is accurate.

The bigger question is, how is your theory of mind?

I know that I exist. Well...I think I exist. But that's about all that I know for a fact.

Necrosis - tell us about dingleberries.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2019, 06:18:47 PM »
I need to increase my dingleberry intake. Zero sugar with tons of fiber and beneficial bacteria. The smell alone reminds me of low tide in Thunder Bay on a sultry summer night. Oh baby

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2019, 06:33:46 PM »
Twigs and berries of peace

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2019, 06:45:24 PM »
ratherbebig,

Can I be trusted? Yes.

I am here to promote regular exercise, caloric restriction, and vices on the weekends only [or less]. I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, and want to encourage others to follow a similar lifestyle. We see TOMMY PHEIL lift heavy at over 50, but Mother Nature and Father Time is not so kind to everyone else.

At 37, I take NOTHING for granted.

I know that I exist. Well...I think I exist. But that's about all that I know for a fact.

Necrosis - tell us about dingleberries.


Interesting so you are aware that you are aware! das sein has dawned on you! you are certainly not your mind if you observe it!

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2019, 07:06:08 PM »
I ran a mile in 6 minutes 45 seconds a few years back, on my fourth run [once weekly for three weeks].

LiveStrong said I was in the top 1% for my age group [31 to 34, I think they wrote]. Not sure if that's accurate, but most people are so out of shape these days.

Can LiveStrong be trusted?

I'm in my 60's and was never a good distance runner. Much better as a sprinter. In high school I ran two 5:15 miles. At 27 I was still running sub 6 minute miles. Now especially with my recent Achilles injury I can be timed in the mile with an hour glass.  If my Achilles isn't torn but just sprained I hope to get back into running with my weight workouts.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2019, 08:03:41 PM »
"I think therefore i am"

Interestingly, Descartes wasn't the first to assert this about self-awareness/self-existence.  Augustine made a similar argument against the skeptics who claimed we could be certain about anything, to which Augustine replied that we can be certain we exist and are thinking. The other philosopher to use that was Avicenna in his "floating man" thought experiment. I forget the details now, but the idea was that a man, completely removed from all sense data (the five senses) would still be aware that he exists and is thinking. Descartes of course would have been familiar with these men and probably borrowed the idea from them (though he put it to use for a very different purpose).

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2019, 08:38:08 PM »
"berries are bad for you."

OK, I'm old. I'll confess.

Is "berries" slang for coochie?
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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2019, 04:55:42 AM »
"I think therefore i am"

Interestingly, Descartes wasn't the first to assert this about self-awareness/self-existence.  Augustine made a similar argument against the skeptics who claimed we could be certain about anything, to which Augustine replied that we can be certain we exist and are thinking. The other philosopher to use that was Avicenna in his "floating man" thought experiment. I forget the details now, but the idea was that a man, completely removed from all sense data (the five senses) would still be aware that he exists and is thinking. Descartes of course would have been familiar with these men and probably borrowed the idea from them (though he put it to use for a very different purpose).

not a big fan of Descartes and his dualism. I think therefore I am is also incorrect, Being is prior to thought and require no thought to sense. Thoughts are objects, subtle ones but they are objects none the less. Pure subjectivity is that which observes thoughts, awareness is reflexively self aware. We are not our thoughts nor are we in control of them! there is no self brother.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2019, 06:49:20 AM »
I just ate grapes, blueberries and strawberries.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2019, 07:24:54 AM »
Take your berries and soak them in a water/vinegar solution to wash off the pesticides.

Berries are one of the most heavily pesticide sprayed foods.

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The vinegar/water bath also helps to keep them from getting moldy so quickly.  Of course, rinse and dry thoroughly before storing.



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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2019, 07:49:01 AM »
I just ate grapes, blueberries and strawberries.

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its your health man. If you have kids think of them next time you take such a risk

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2019, 08:22:39 AM »
its your health man. If you have kids think of them next time you take such a risk

Good thing I don’t have kids.
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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2019, 08:24:25 AM »
not a big fan of Descartes and his dualism. I think therefore I am is also incorrect, Being is prior to thought and require no thought to sense. Thoughts are objects, subtle ones but they are objects none the less. Pure subjectivity is that which observes thoughts, awareness is reflexively self aware. We are not our thoughts nor are we in control of them! there is no self brother.
There definitely can be some problems with dualism of mind/soul and body. For one, we must affirm that we are our bodies. We are not a ghost trapped in and operating a body. Nay, we are in fact a body. But I would argue that our experience also indicates that we are not a physical body alone. Our experience of the world includes and incorporal element, for example, your experience of seeing this screen right now. The material light waves bounce off your retina, which send signals to your brain, which produces this experience of sight. The experience itself is not material, however. Also, when it comes to our being in control of our thoughts, and our not being our thoughts but us merely being aware of them, well I think you've basically contradicted yourself. If you are aware of your thoughts, then what are you? Where are you? This reflexive self-awareness, as you put it, indicates a transcendent incorporal element separate from the brain and body. But I don't think that is the case! Rather, we are very much in control of our thoughts (even though we are not absolutely in control of them). And there are many evidences which point towards this being the case. Our being able to intentionally change our thoughts and moods is probably the best proof (as is the common experience of all humans). Remember William James. "My first act of free will was deciding to believe in it."

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2019, 10:04:26 AM »
Hey bombz, nice speech though it sounds a bit like a Christian and a Buddhist have become trapped in the same closet.

What are you up to these days?

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2019, 10:10:31 AM »
I am here to promote regular exercise, caloric restriction, and vices on the weekends only [or less]. I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, and want to encourage others to follow a similar lifestyle.

What about caffeine, sugar, Adderall, modafinil, etc?

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2019, 04:29:25 PM »
There definitely can be some problems with dualism of mind/soul and body. For one, we must affirm that we are our bodies. We are not a ghost trapped in and operating a body. Nay, we are in fact a body. But I would argue that our experience also indicates that we are not a physical body alone. Our experience of the world includes and incorporal element, for example, your experience of seeing this screen right now. The material light waves bounce off your retina, which send signals to your brain, which produces this experience of sight. The experience itself is not material, however. Also, when it comes to our being in control of our thoughts, and our not being our thoughts but us merely being aware of them, well I think you've basically contradicted yourself. If you are aware of your thoughts, then what are you? Where are you? This reflexive self-awareness, as you put it, indicates a transcendent incorporal element separate from the brain and body. But I don't think that is the case! Rather, we are very much in control of our thoughts (even though we are not absolutely in control of them). And there are many evidences which point towards this being the case. Our being able to intentionally change our thoughts and moods is probably the best proof (as is the common experience of all humans). Remember William James. "My first act of free will was deciding to believe in it."

You were close to the answer but you went back off into dualism Taylor. The eternal tao that can be spoken is not the eternal tao. There is no self, the self is a conception, one that changes from moment to moment. you are separating up experience into incorporeal and material, they go together, they are not separate in the first place. I would tend to agree with you in terms of incorporeal, in a stoic sense, lekta and the like but I don't think you are going far enough, spinoza would be my suggestion for you with regards to this discussion, maybe ruyer, his sense of the incorporeal was the modes of the two attributes, extension and thought,neither independently existing but just two of the infinite number of attributes possible of the one substance. You see it's paraconsistent logic a dialetheism! the logical posivitists were wrong, Godel showed this much.

Your sense of self is an illusion, an illusion run by the default mode network or the task negative network. Split brain patients show this much, there are two selves in these people. Shut down the DMN and you will experience pure undifferentiated consciousness. You are stuck in your ego mind my friend, there is a pre-linguistic real a invariant pre-representational that needs no thought, there is something prior to thought, my speaking about he moon is not the moon itself, the thoughts, words etc are not the thing-in-itself (Ding an sich). You think you are the body, thats just a thought, the observer is in fact the observed, you cannot have an observer without something to observe, they go together, thats why its called non-duality, its not two! you are simultaneously the body the mind, the explicate but also the implicate awareness which is the absolute truth. Nagarjuna would also be a good person to read up on, his two truths are very much paraconsistent, an absolute (very much spinozin) and a relative, non-duality contains duality but cannot be conceived, its beyond thought which is inherently dualistic.

To the question of what are you if you aren't your thoughts? Nothing!! there is no self! its pure subject ie not a thing, thoughts are objects unless you think everything is objective? you will discover the subjective, the realize that the subject and object are not in fact separate, they are two sides of the same coin which no reductionism can reach. You are denying consciousness apart from thought. I promise you that you in fact have no control over your thoughts, you have no idea what thought is coming next and the thoughts you believe are yours are pure conditioning. Same with your body, you aren't in control of that either, it ages, changes without your will the vast majority of things going on it it, heart beating, thyroid working, digesting are going on without you! you know why? there is no you, that's just a fucking thought, a helpful one. If you want to get to the truth you simply drop all beliefs, the truth is self-evident and requires no belief, its nothing and everything all at once.



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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2019, 04:32:45 PM »
I thought you were a christian Tbombz? have you not treaded the apophatic path via kenosis? surrender of the ego will wake you out of duality!

By the way I am still an atheist but Bohm would be my god if there was one lol.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2019, 04:32:44 PM »
Shut down the DMN and you will experience pure undifferentiated consciousness. You are stuck in your ego mind

Best way to do it?

Could we also add Watts to bombz' suggested reading list--or listening, in this case?

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2019, 05:35:33 AM »
Best way to do it?

Could we also add Watts to bombz' suggested reading list--or listening, in this case?

Great suggestion, Watts is the man. Let me know if you would like to add anything else to his list.

The quickest way to do it is psychedelics they revert the brain to a more atavistic state or hyperconnectivity. The best way to do it is meditation and achieving no-mind or mushin.


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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2019, 01:45:45 PM »
Great suggestion, Watts is the man. Let me know if you would like to add anything else to his list.

The quickest way to do it is psychedelics they revert the brain to a more atavistic state or hyperconnectivity. The best way to do it is meditation and achieving no-mind or mushin.



Yeah Ive gone the psychedelic route and took a few meditation classes but it never quite stuck. I always mean to keep going back to it... At one point I finally felt I was starting to make progress, but somehow I regressed.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2019, 01:55:22 PM »
Found this article on berries, anyone agree?
https://www.livestrong.com/article/525609-health-risks-of-eating-blueberries-strawberries/

would we be better off eating veggies only?

I agree with this part of the article.

Too Much Fiber

Raw berries are packed with fiber – more than most other fruits, according to registered dietitian Sharon Palmer on the Today’s Dietitian website. Fiber aids with digestion and elimination and can help lower your cholesterol. Strawberries contain 3 grams per 1-cup serving, while blueberries supply 4 grams of the 25 to 38 grams of fiber needed daily by women and men. But if you add too much fiber to your diet too quickly, you may experience gas, bloating and cramps. Also, too much fiber may interfere with the absorption of some minerals, such as iron and calcium. Talk to your doctor about your fiber needs and how to reach your daily goal.

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Re: berries are bad for you?
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2019, 02:50:17 PM »


anyway i dont spend my days worrying about Pellius




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contradicting yourself again