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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2019, 06:10:10 PM »
Weight gainers? Now that's my specialty..  ;D

Of the gainers currently on the markets, the most likely one for which you can easily access may be Muscle Milk Gainer.


It tastes pretty good and mixes well (at least, the chocolate one does).


i was thinking of them. I think I’ll get theirs.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2019, 06:12:59 PM »
Agreed.  I actually went from a Bruce Lee ripped physique to looking like shit but thought I looked better because 10-15 pounds heavier.  It gets harder and harder to keep the weight off every year.
if you are fat now I doubt it’s from weight gainers from 30 years ago.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2019, 01:44:30 AM »
Add in 2 cans of sardines a day. Great nutrient profile and EPA DHA are crazy high. Compare O3s on the labels tho. Cheap ones are much lower.

I used to blend a boiled potato with egg whites and protein powder.  ::)  Lifts went up but so did my waist measurement. Thankfully I wised up pretty quick. Liquid calories are too easy to overconsume. Some guys just want to fill up a xxl shirt tho, and it must not matter to them what it's filled with.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2019, 03:07:56 AM »
if you are fat now I doubt it’s from weight gainers from 30 years ago.
I'm not fat now but my point is that gaining bulk weight is a waste of time unless it's for a sport like football where gaining weight will make you more competitive.  Bulking up for bodybuilding is just getting fat and makes you look worse.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2019, 10:23:58 AM »
I'm not fat now but my point is that gaining bulk weight is a waste of time unless it's for a sport like football where gaining weight will make you more competitive.  Bulking up for bodybuilding is just getting fat and makes you look worse.

That's where I disagree. Bulking up isn't a waste of time. For some (particularly ectomorphs), it's a necessity. As stated earlier, there's a time and place for it. When you're young, naturally skinny, and active in school or other things, you're not putting on any mass unless those calories go up.

While you should gradually increase your calories and try to limit any extra bodyfat, the reality is that you aren't going to put on pure muscle all of the time.

I needed them back in the day in my teens and 20s. But, I didn't need them in my 30s and certainly don't need them now.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2019, 12:25:57 PM »
That's where I disagree. Bulking up isn't a waste of time. For some (particularly ectomorphs), it's a necessity. As stated earlier, there's a time and place for it. When you're young, naturally skinny, and active in school or other things, you're not putting on any mass unless those calories go up.

While you should gradually increase your calories and try to limit any extra bodyfat, the reality is that you aren't going to put on pure muscle all of the time.

I needed them back in the day in my teens and 20s. But, I didn't need them in my 30s and certainly don't need them now.
That's the old myth of bulking up and slimming down.  The bulker thinks they have actually a bunch of muscle along with the fat and then they can just lose the fat and the muscle remains.  Nice theory but it's bullshit.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2019, 12:30:23 PM »
That's the old myth of bulking up and slimming down.  The bulker thinks they have actually a bunch of muscle along with the fat and then they can just lose the fat and the muscle remains.  Nice theory but it's bullshit.
Yup,added bodyweight doesn`t necesarilly mean you gained any muscle.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2019, 12:45:53 PM »
Yup,added bodyweight doesn`t necesarilly mean you gained any muscle.
Take a guy who has a Bruce Lee physique (around 135lbs) and is ripped to the bone.  He is small but looks very impressive with his shirt off.  He goes on a bulk diet and gains 35 lbs up to 170.  Now he is still small but is skinny fat and looks like shit.  If he would have trained and gained just 5 lbs of muscle he would have been better off plus he never has to diet and lose weight.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2019, 12:48:11 PM »
Take a guy who has a Bruce Lee physique (around 135lbs) and is ripped to the bone.  He is small but looks very impressive with his shirt off.  He goes on a bulk diet and gains 35 lbs up to 170.  Now he is still small but is skinny fat and looks like shit.  If he would have trained and gained just 5 lbs of muscle he would have been better off plus he never has to diet and lose weight.
I hear you,I always looked better at a lighter harder bodyweight.

I got up around 200 pounds which is fucking humongous for me and while I was stronger than shit,I looked like complete garbage.

I dropped that weight fast.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2019, 12:58:36 PM »
I hear you,I always looked better at a lighter harder bodyweight.

I got up around 200 pounds which is fucking humongous for me and while I was stronger than shit,I looked like complete garbage.

I dropped that weight fast.
Same here.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2019, 05:46:51 PM »
Take a guy who has a Bruce Lee physique (around 135lbs) and is ripped to the bone.  He is small but looks very impressive with his shirt off.  He goes on a bulk diet and gains 35 lbs up to 170.  Now he is still small but is skinny fat and looks like shit.  If he would have trained and gained just 5 lbs of muscle he would have been better off plus he never has to diet and lose weight.

 Few, if any here, admire Bruce Lee's physique (this site is called GETBIG, not Get-Twig). They admire him because he could fight.


Who is going to continue training for years on end, when he goes from 135 lbs to 140 lbs in a year? All he's done is go from being a twig to being a slightly less smaller twig. I know that firsthand, having started training at 136, in June of 1989.

Yup,added bodyweight doesn`t necesarilly mean you gained any muscle.

You know if you've gained muscle when your strength goes up and you get the compliments from your friends and family.

Nobody puts on pure muscle all the time. Again, there's a fine line between putting on too much fat and limiting yourself to minuscule gains, out of obsession with being super-lean all the time.

The first time I broke 200-lb, I felt great and my classmates (and a few ladies) noticed my improvements. NOBODY accused me of being fat, and I certainly looked better than I did at 175, even if I wasn't quite as cut.

That's the old myth of bulking up and slimming down.  The bulker thinks they have actually a bunch of muscle along with the fat and then they can just lose the fat and the muscle remains.  Nice theory but it's bullshit.

Harldy! Ronnie, Dorian, and other mass monsters that have been revered on this forum (and others) were all three bills and change in their respective off-seasons.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2019, 03:01:29 AM »
Few, if any here, admire Bruce Lee's physique (this site is called GETBIG, not Get-Twig). They admire him because he could fight.


Who is going to continue training for years on end, when he goes from 135 lbs to 140 lbs in a year? All he's done is go from being a twig to being a slightly less smaller twig. I know that firsthand, having started training at 136, in June of 1989.

You know if you've gained muscle when your strength goes up and you get the compliments from your friends and family.

Nobody puts on pure muscle all the time. Again, there's a fine line between putting on too much fat and limiting yourself to minuscule gains, out of obsession with being super-lean all the time.

The first time I broke 200-lb, I felt great and my classmates (and a few ladies) noticed my improvements. NOBODY accused me of being fat, and I certainly looked better than I did at 175, even if I wasn't quite as cut.

Harldy! Ronnie, Dorian, and other mass monsters that have been revered on this forum (and others) were all three bills and change in their respective off-seasons.
If you are lifting to look better to get women a Bruce Lee physique will get you farther than a thong warrior.  Justin Bieber has women creaming their panties for him, competitive bodybuilders attract weird bodybuilder chicks on male hormones.

Keeping a lean, ripped physique has more to do with diet than exercising hours a day.  Most people work out too much anyway.

Ronnie and Dorian are mass monsters because they use huge amounts of steroids and cutting drugs to get there.  If you are using roids you can lose fat while keeping all of the muscle.  Remember the pics of Lee Priest in his off season pics?  If he were natural and lost the weight he would have been skinny fat.  Naturals do not retain muscle while losing fat.  Check out youtube videos from Nick's Strength and Power were he shows you how much mass a natural actually loses when dieting down for a contest.

The majority of posters on getbig are fat asses.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2019, 03:32:37 AM »
I used to take this stuff called Meritene, I think it was for malnourished children.  You got it at the drug store.  Worked for sure.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2019, 08:42:15 AM »
If you are lifting to look better to get women a Bruce Lee physique will get you farther than a thong warrior.  Justin Bieber has women creaming their panties for him, competitive bodybuilders attract weird bodybuilder chicks on male hormones.

Lil Wayne and Rick Ross get women, creaming in their panties, too. Guess what? I don’t want to look like either of them or Bieber.


Keeping a lean, ripped physique has more to do with diet than exercising hours a day.  Most people work out too much anyway.

Ronnie and Dorian are mass monsters because they use huge amounts of steroids and cutting drugs to get there.  If you are using roids you can lose fat while keeping all of the muscle.  Remember the pics of Lee Priest in his off season pics?  If he were natural and lost the weight he would have been skinny fat.  Naturals do not retain muscle while losing fat.  Check out youtube videos from Nick's Strength and Power were he shows you how much mass a natural actually loses when dieting down for a contest.

The majority of posters on getbig are fat asses.

Anyone can retain muscle, if he gets his diet right, natural or not-so-natural.

If you’re losing muscle, it’s because you’re crash-dieting, dropping your calories too low and too quickly, and going nuts on cardio.

Dieting slowly and eating beef, instead of chicken, helped me big time. My waist is smaller; the abs pop more. BTW, whoever came up with the idea to separate egg whites from the yolks should be horse-whipped.

And I’m still moving the poundage that I was beforehand. On some lifts, I’m even a bit stronger.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2019, 10:35:19 AM »
Lil Wayne and Rick Ross get women, creaming in their panties, too. Guess what? I don’t want to look like either of them or Bieber.

Anyone can retain muscle, if he gets his diet right, natural or not-so-natural.

If you’re losing muscle, it’s because you’re crash-dieting, dropping your calories too low and too quickly, and going nuts on cardio.

Dieting slowly and eating beef, instead of chicken, helped me big time. My waist is smaller; the abs pop more. BTW, whoever came up with the idea to separate egg whites from the yolks should be horse-whipped.

And I’m still moving the poundage that I was beforehand. On some lifts, I’m even a bit stronger.
A perfect example of how small an athlete really is when cutting is seen in boxers and MMA fighters.  There are very few cut heavyweights and they are well over six feet tall.  Most guys over 200 pounds drop to 140-170 when getting in fighting shape.  Every natural who gets cut loses a lot of size.  Bodybuilders from the era before steroids had a lot more fat than today's roid monsters.  Look at pics of Grimek and Reeves compared to competitors today.

There is no such thing as not so natural.  If you are using roids this doesn't apply to you.

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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2019, 11:27:32 AM »
A perfect example of how small an athlete really is when cutting is seen in boxers and MMA fighters.  There are very few cut heavyweights and they are well over six feet tall.  Most guys over 200 pounds drop to 140-170 when getting in fighting shape.  Every natural who gets cut loses a lot of size.  Bodybuilders from the era before steroids had a lot more fat than today's roid monsters.  Look at pics of Grimek and Reeves compared to competitors today.

There is no such thing as not so natural.  If you are using roids this doesn't apply to you.

Boxers and MMA fighters starve and deplete themselves, because they fear being bumped up to the next class (where their opponents can outweigh them by up to 20 lbs).

Again, naturals and those who use anabolics lose lots of size for much the same reasons: They diet too severely (dropping their calories too drastically) and too quickly; they go bonkers on the cardio; and they eat "clean", as in eating foods that don't have enough nutrients to keep their muscles full.

That's why I made the comment about eggs. Whole eggs have always been part of my diet, whether I'm putting on mass or getting cut. Same goes for beef. I just use plain protein powders instead of weight gainers, because I don't need the gainers anymore.

But, I wouldn't have put on mass without them, back in the day......too skinny with too fast of a metabolism.



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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2019, 06:01:10 PM »
This has been my opinion on bulks forever. Don’t let yourself get overly fat but don’t get obsessive about being ripped and trying to gain strength and muscle. Eat some extra you do not want to be in a deficit. You don’t want all that hard earned muscle that you’ve gained to be eaten just trying to stay ripped all year round.You don’t obsess over how many miles you have to drive to work and then only put that amount of gas in your tank hoping to just make it. And then on the way back home you put just enough in to make it back home. If you’re in a deficit in gas your car won’t make it. If you are in a deficit in calories just to try to stay very lean all year you’re also going to be eating up some muscle. One wanting to put on size stay in a calorie overload state but don’t become a fat pig. I think this is one of the reasons we don’t see the great bodybuilders that we used to. Everybody’s trying to stay ripped all the time and depend on drugs

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2019, 04:25:22 AM »
This has been my opinion on bulks forever. Don’t let yourself get overly fat but don’t get obsessive about being ripped and trying to gain strength and muscle. Eat some extra you do not want to be in a deficit. You don’t want all that hard earned muscle that you’ve gained to be eaten just trying to stay ripped all year round.You don’t obsess over how many miles you have to drive to work and then only put that amount of gas in your tank hoping to just make it. And then on the way back home you put just enough in to make it back home. If you’re in a deficit in gas your car won’t make it. If you are in a deficit in calories just to try to stay very lean all year you’re also going to be eating up some muscle. One wanting to put on size stay in a calorie overload state but don’t become a fat pig. I think this is one of the reasons we don’t see the great bodybuilders that we used to. Everybody’s trying to stay ripped all the time and depend on drugs
When I was a teenager I ate a lot of calories anyway and was cut.  There was no reason to eat too many calories and lose the cut body and look like shit.  I never had a cut diet (or needed one) until I was around 30.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2019, 04:47:26 AM »
If you're 197 and natural then imo you do not need sugar shakes, sir, unless you're 7 feet tall or genetically elite. But what the hell do I know. Been training for years and wouldn't go near a stage, while you've got stars, so....

I doubt anyone on this board is teenager enough to need high calorie liquids.

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Re: Heavyweight 900
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2019, 07:28:19 PM »
When I used to use those products I bought  N-Large by Prolab. These days the only sports nutrition product I use is Isopure protein form Natures Best.

I loved Isopure. I used to get them on sale at GNC for as little as $0.50.

Nowadays, whey isolate is much cheaper. So IsoPure isn’t quite as available as it once was.

ProteinH20 and other products are replacing IsoPure, although the protein content is lower.