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Re: two charts
« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2020, 04:01:14 PM »
Eventually.. but certainly not initially.

Can you show us that on the timeline?
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Re: two charts
« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2020, 04:11:39 PM »
Can you show us that on the timeline?
I could but it doesn't really matter

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Re: two charts
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2020, 06:55:59 PM »
I could but it doesn't really matter

It was a sincere question.  I want to know - I don’t blindly follow either party.

I will just assume it doesn’t support your statement.
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Re: two charts
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2020, 08:55:00 PM »
It was a sincere question.  I want to know - I don’t blindly follow either party.

I will just assume it doesn’t support your statement.

Feb. 11

At a WHO briefing, Tedros urged world leaders to give priority to containing the virus: "To be honest, a virus is more powerful in creating political, economic and social upheaval than any terrorist attack. A virus can have more powerful consequences than any terrorist action, and that's true. If the world doesn't want to wake up and consider this enemy virus as Public Enemy Number 1, I don't think we will learn our lessons."

Feb. 13

In an interview with Geraldo Rivera, Trump characterized the threat of the virus in the U.S. by saying: "In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases, and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it's actually less."

Feb. 24

In a tweet, Trump wrote, "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

Feb. 26

In a news conference, Trump said: "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

Feb. 28

The WHO raises the global risk of the coronavirus from "high" to "very high."

February 28, Trump said that coronavirus will “disappear” like a “miracle” while speaking at a press conference for his coronavirus task force. On Tuesday, he told reporters on Capitol Hill that coronavirus “will go away.” In late February, he speculated that warm weather would kill the virus and stop its spread. None of these statements are backed by science or infectious disease experts within his own administration.

March 4 phone call with Hannity, Trump compared coronavirus with the flu. He mentioned that the flu kills anywhere between 27,000 and 77,000 people every year, implying that coronavirus isn’t as serious of a threat to public health as Influenza.
Trump’s own infectious disease experts have said that idea is wrong. Dr. Fauci told Congress on March 11 that “the mortality of [Covid-19] is multiple times what the seasonal flu is.”

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Re: two charts
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2020, 08:56:53 PM »
It was a sincere question.  I want to know - I don’t blindly follow either party.

I will just assume it doesn’t support your statement.

Sorry I gave that impression. I don't interact with you very often and assumed you were asking in the vein of "Can you give an example of a time when Trump lied" kind of thing. In those cases, I could list 20 examples of lies and it would be dismissed out of hand. I apologize for the lack of response

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Re: two charts
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2020, 10:42:34 PM »
winning

There isn’t a liberal on the planet that could competently defend this memes....NOT ONE

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Re: two charts
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2020, 10:53:16 PM »
Feb. 11

At a WHO briefing, Tedros urged world leaders to give priority to containing the virus: "To be honest, a virus is more powerful in creating political, economic and social upheaval than any terrorist attack. A virus can have more powerful consequences than any terrorist action, and that's true. If the world doesn't want to wake up and consider this enemy virus as Public Enemy Number 1, I don't think we will learn our lessons."

Feb. 13

In an interview with Geraldo Rivera, Trump characterized the threat of the virus in the U.S. by saying: "In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases, and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it's actually less."

Feb. 24

In a tweet, Trump wrote, "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

Feb. 26

In a news conference, Trump said: "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

Feb. 28

The WHO raises the global risk of the coronavirus from "high" to "very high."

February 28, Trump said that coronavirus will “disappear” like a “miracle” while speaking at a press conference for his coronavirus task force. On Tuesday, he told reporters on Capitol Hill that coronavirus “will go away.” In late February, he speculated that warm weather would kill the virus and stop its spread. None of these statements are backed by science or infectious disease experts within his own administration.

March 4 phone call with Hannity, Trump compared coronavirus with the flu. He mentioned that the flu kills anywhere between 27,000 and 77,000 people every year, implying that coronavirus isn’t as serious of a threat to public health as Influenza.
Trump’s own infectious disease experts have said that idea is wrong. Dr. Fauci told Congress on March 11 that “the mortality of [Covid-19] is multiple times what the seasonal flu is.”

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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/timeline-the-trump-administrations-decisive-actions-to-combat-the-coronavirus/

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Re: two charts
« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2020, 12:44:01 AM »
How is Adam Schiff charting  ;D.

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Re: two charts
« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2020, 11:49:24 AM »
Sorry I gave that impression. I don't interact with you very often and assumed you were asking in the vein of "Can you give an example of a time when Trump lied" kind of thing. In those cases, I could list 20 examples of lies and it would be dismissed out of hand. I apologize for the lack of response

It's fine man, no apologies necessary.

I think big tech and a dishonest media are bigger threats than whichever political party is in office, and I don't agree with everything the administration does, but I've found myself becoming more and more anti democrat.  I think they've lost their way with the ultra progressiveness and anti-Trump obsession, which is how we ended up with Biden  as the nominee.

Back to that timeline, there were 100 cases in the US on March 2.  Shutdown was impossible, nor was it suggested at the time by Fauci and Birx. I don't know what people think was supposed to be the correct course of action.

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Re: two charts
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2020, 08:43:38 PM »
It's fine man, no apologies necessary.

I think big tech and a dishonest media are bigger threats than whichever political party is in office, and I don't agree with everything the administration does, but I've found myself becoming more and more anti democrat.  I think they've lost their way with the ultra progressiveness and anti-Trump obsession, which is how we ended up with Biden  as the nominee.

Back to that timeline, there were 100 cases in the US on March 2.  Shutdown was impossible, nor was it suggested at the time by Fauci and Birx. I don't know what people think was supposed to be the correct course of action.

I personally am not drove up about Trumps initial response. I wasn't privy to his daily briefings from intel so I don't know how much more information he had than I did. But even I knew those 15 cases weren't going to be zero at that point. 

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Re: two charts
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2020, 07:26:01 AM »
I personally am not drove up about Trumps initial response. I wasn't privy to his daily briefings from intel so I don't know how much more information he had than I did. But even I knew those 15 cases weren't going to be zero at that point.

This is were I go back to rhetoric vs action.

He's overly optimistic - it fits his personality and desire to "fix" and be the Man.  It didn't dictate his actions.  For example he SAID "I'd think opening by Easter would be idea"....but he didn't lift the lockdown based on the advice from the medical community.

I'm over nitpicking his style at this point.  It is what it is and it's not changing.  The best way I saw it put was this:  His detractors take him literally, while his supporters take him seriously.
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