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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2022, 11:52:10 AM »
he isnt 225 so he aint shit
Nope  not shit at all,just something called physical perfection !!

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2022, 11:53:25 AM »
Nope  not shit at all,just something called physical perfection !!

I remember Dorian saying his head was too big

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2022, 01:22:52 PM »
I remember Dorian saying his head was too big
You sure he wasn`t referring to  Hanky ??

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2022, 04:12:12 PM »
To make it that far without steroids is down right incredible. Imagine if he did actually use? Props for putting his health first instead of plastic trophies. If he does die early, it’ll be from a genetic heart defect. I am sure of it.

This is why i stay natty.

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2022, 04:50:27 PM »
Looks incredible in the close up in the last few seconds of the video.

Not bad for 176LB

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2022, 04:53:02 PM »
 :)

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2022, 05:25:44 PM »

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2022, 05:58:22 PM »
Not bad for 4’11

But was he sexual?


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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2022, 06:12:30 PM »
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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2022, 10:46:43 AM »
I think there's a correlation between the declination of society and the accepted physiques of a Mr. Olympia winner.
Progress or "evolution" are the terms used to change the judging standards.

Just going from 1991 to 2021. 30 years it took to go from Lee Haney a work of art at 5'11 250 to Ramy, a fucking abomination at 5'9 295-300. Bodybuilding lost anything beautiful and artistic about it and went to shock and awe.

For some reason the powers that be thought this would be a better business decision. Then once it went too far they allowed other divisions to appease the purists like myself and the size queens. This most importantly allowed them to make alot of money for promoters. What it did was water down the talent in the open division as Classic and 212 guys would have been open guys if judging was better.

As we morally declined so has everything else including Bodybuilding. It has morally declined from art to shit show.
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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2022, 10:50:17 AM »
I think there's a correlation between the declination of society and the accepted physiques of a Mr. Olympia winner.
Progress or "evolution" are the terms used to change the judging standards.

Just going from 1991 to 2021. 30 years it took to go from Lee Haney a work of art at 5'11 250 to Ramy, a fucking abomination at 5'9 295-300. Bodybuilding lost anything beautiful and artistic about it and went to shock and awe.

For some reason the powers that be thought this would be a better business decision.

As we morally declined so has everything else including Bodybuilding. It has morally declined from art to shit show.

great observation
the world is regressing as fast as bodybuilding

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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2022, 11:01:07 AM »
great observation
the world is regressing as fast as bodybuilding

What's hilarious is that they act like they can't control the physiques they judge when all it takes is to for a guy like a modern day Flex Wheeler or Bob Paris to compete and they crown him the winner and judges of all other shows do the same and punish extreme hypermuscular physiques that don't meet the standards.

That will never happen because while that would dramatically improve the talent pool in the amateurs and open division, it would decimate the "fees" they get from having all these divisions in the NPC and IFBB. Instead of improving the product, to make more money, they chop it, dilute it and resell and tell you it's better because there's more and they still make more money. 

The bottom line is there's alot people bodybuilding that shouldn't be bodybuilding if it we're judged from the perspective of an art. As they don't have the structural genetics. They pile on  unaesthetic mass in hopes it covers for their structural deficiencies (it never does). I would say this has become the rule as when before it was the exception.
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Re: Shawn Ray discusses Bob Paris & Francis Benfatto
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2022, 11:50:42 AM »
What's hilarious is that they act like they can't control the physiques they judge when all it takes is to for a guy like a modern day Flex Wheeler or Bob Paris to compete and they crown him the winner and judges of all other shows do the same and punish extreme hypermuscular physiques that don't meet the standards.

That will never happen because while that would dramatically improve the talent pool in the amateurs and open division, it would decimate the "fees" they get from having all these divisions in the NPC and IFBB. Instead of improving the product, to make more money, they chop it, dilute it and resell and tell you it's better because there's more and they still make more money. 

The bottom line is there's alot people bodybuilding that shouldn't be bodybuilding if it we're judged from the perspective of an art. As they don't have the structural genetics. They pile on  unaesthetic mass in hopes it covers for their structural deficiencies (it never does). I would say this has become the rule as when before it was the exception.

Like that shit show dick Walker, no way should that pile of shit place or win shows