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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #225 on: October 30, 2022, 07:53:15 AM »
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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #226 on: October 31, 2022, 10:47:57 AM »
The MSM is freaking out.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #227 on: October 31, 2022, 04:20:28 PM »
The MSM is freaking out.
That station has some of the dumbest people on the planet.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #228 on: October 31, 2022, 06:25:03 PM »
The cancelers are getting canceled

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #229 on: October 31, 2022, 08:20:37 PM »
The cancelers are getting canceled
It is crazy how things come back around.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #230 on: November 01, 2022, 04:03:36 AM »
The bizarre part in all of it is the 'cancelers' somehow think they support free speech and people's rights while the Musk side, that is actually in true support of free speech is being portrayed as engaging only in 'hate speech.'

Truly wild and crazy times. Nation is only becoming more and more divided.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #231 on: November 01, 2022, 04:15:40 AM »
The bizarre part in all of it is the 'cancelers' somehow think they support free speech and people's rights while the Musk side, that is actually in true support of free speech is being portrayed as engaging only in 'hate speech.'

Truly wild and crazy times. Nation is only becoming more and more divided.

I mean ....

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #232 on: November 01, 2022, 04:19:35 AM »
I bet the eventual outcome will be a fire-sale for a fraction of the original price, akin to Myspace or Tumblr.  The site doesn't generate much revenue and annual interest is about $1 billion.  Now that the site is fully private, those losses come out of Musks pocket.  And as Tesla stock comes down from 70x earnings, those losses will be felt even more

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #233 on: November 01, 2022, 04:45:13 AM »
I mean ....

The word has been weaponized. The graph is virtually meaningless

A similar graph tracking vitriol against whites will not show a spike because it was never supressed to begin with.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #234 on: November 01, 2022, 05:34:47 AM »
I bet the eventual outcome will be a fire-sale for a fraction of the original price, akin to Myspace or Tumblr.  The site doesn't generate much revenue and annual interest is about $1 billion.  Now that the site is fully private, those losses come out of Musks pocket.  And as Tesla stock comes down from 70x earnings, those losses will be felt even more

There are few things twitter under Musk can try to do to further monetize it.

Even if they aren't successful they'll probably cook the books, Re-IPO it and pump and dump the stock.

Here's what it would look like


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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #235 on: November 03, 2022, 10:08:41 AM »

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #236 on: November 03, 2022, 10:29:16 AM »
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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #237 on: November 04, 2022, 03:45:10 AM »
I looked into the details a bit more and  put up 70% in cash and only borrowed 30%. that should be an incredibly safe debt level, even if musk overpaid. but it's not: the company probably can't even make those interest payments (which also means, musk can't even afford to loot it - theoretically making it safer). the company already looks highly stressed and Musk's recent actions suggest he's desperate for money

musk cannot afford to make long-term decisions because he must get twitter to generate $1 billion of free cash flow per year, very fast - just to keep up with the interest payments.

theoretically, twitter should not be a highly leveraged company, since theoretically if you're buying it for $44b it should be worth $44b. But it seems twitter's actual value is $13b or less because it can't actually support that level of debt without crashing and burning, and is as a result hilariously overleveraged.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #238 on: November 04, 2022, 08:02:23 AM »
I looked into the details a bit more and  put up 70% in cash and only borrowed 30%. that should be an incredibly safe debt level, even if musk overpaid. but it's not: the company probably can't even make those interest payments (which also means, musk can't even afford to loot it - theoretically making it safer). the company already looks highly stressed and Musk's recent actions suggest he's desperate for money

musk cannot afford to make long-term decisions because he must get twitter to generate $1 billion of free cash flow per year, very fast - just to keep up with the interest payments.

theoretically, twitter should not be a highly leveraged company, since theoretically if you're buying it for $44b it should be worth $44b. But it seems twitter's actual value is $13b or less because it can't actually support that level of debt without crashing and burning, and is as a result hilariously overleveraged.

the value of something is simply what someone is prepared to pay for it.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #239 on: November 04, 2022, 04:42:54 PM »
The bizarre part in all of it is the 'cancelers' somehow think they support free speech and people's rights while the Musk side, that is actually in true support of free speech is being portrayed as engaging only in 'hate speech.'

Truly wild and crazy times. Nation is only becoming more and more divided.

Very True
And those Cancelers are to Blame for so many Wrongs in Society Now.
WTF is Wrong in their Minds.  Completely Fucked up they are.

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Re: Elon Musk Offers to Buy Twitter 100% in cash
« Reply #240 on: November 04, 2022, 04:48:47 PM »
the value of something is simply what someone is prepared to pay for it.

in a philosophical sense, sure.  Even using that definition, the value of twitter is less than the $44b paid as evidenced by musk's attempts to weasel out of the sales contract