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Humble Narcissist

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2023, 12:53:20 AM »
On paper,  Mentzer's original HIT makes sense.  Brooks Kubik's Dinosaur Training does too but I recall being so depleted I didn't want to train again for a week or more. And that from 2 or 3 HIT sets or a single "death march" set such as 50 reps with 315 on the squat.

Whatever works for each of us is best for each of us.   I know that with PEDs,  most any reasonable training method  will produce astounding results and the only difference is that off the drugs you lose it all much quicker than a natural who stops training will.  But yes, we still lose the muscle.  But we also still train.  ;D

And regardless, it is difficult accepting being a "regular" person again.  ;D
Dinosaur training fucked me up. I eventually got to doing all singles after doing 5x5, 54321, 321 for a full year and a half. My shoulders ached constantly and I couldn't lift one arm over my head for sometime. I thought I was permanently fucked physically but after a few years recovered.

Brooks wrote another book on calisthenics and sold it for over $200 and then after was trying to convince men over 50 to go into Olympic weightlifting. ::)

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2023, 07:18:00 AM »
Mentzer had some mental problems, yes, but this sport sends people to an early grave

Well, 11 of of the 16 competitors from the 1980 Olympia are still alive,as of 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Mr._Olympia

Of the 4 that have died other than Mentzer  , two of them - Chris Dickerson and Ed Corney- died in their 80's . Only the other two - Dennis Tinerino and Casey Viator- passed away somewhat prematurely ,dying in their 60's.

Seems, in dying before hitting 50,Mentzer was a bit of an outlier for his bodybuilding contemporaries.

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2023, 01:31:27 AM »
Well, 11 of of the 16 competitors from the 1980 Olympia are still alive,as of 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Mr._Olympia

Of the 4 that have died other than Mentzer  , two of them - Chris Dickerson and Ed Corney- died in their 80's . Only the other two - Dennis Tinerino and Casey Viator- passed away somewhat prematurely ,dying in their 60's.

Seems, in dying before hitting 50,Mentzer was a bit of an outlier for his bodybuilding contemporaries.
His brother croaked the next day.

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2023, 03:27:11 AM »
Well, 11 of of the 16 competitors from the 1980 Olympia are still alive,as of 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Mr._Olympia

Of the 4 that have died other than Mentzer  , two of them - Chris Dickerson and Ed Corney- died in their 80's . Only the other two - Dennis Tinerino and Casey Viator- passed away somewhat prematurely ,dying in their 60's.

Seems, in dying before hitting 50,Mentzer was a bit of an outlier for his bodybuilding contemporaries.

He lived a shorter, more intense life. The optimal time it takes to live a full life is 49.9 years anything beyond that is pointless.

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2023, 04:09:05 AM »
His brother croaked the next day.

That may have been suicide

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2023, 10:21:18 AM »
He lived a shorter, more intense life. The optimal time it takes to live a full life is 49.9 years anything beyond that is pointless.

Superbly done, sir!

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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2023, 10:24:24 AM »
His brother croaked the next day.
Kid asked his grandad to make a noise like a frog
Grandad says "why"
Kid says "my dad says we can go to Disneyland when your grandad croaks"

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2023, 11:15:54 AM »
Does anyone know was John Little  "intense man" who used to post on ironage?

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2023, 12:47:28 PM »
Does anyone know was John Little  "intense man" who used to post on ironage?

"Intense man" lol 😆

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2023, 12:51:01 PM »
I think it all comes down to progressive overload, AKA getting stronger overtime, idc if you do high intensity, high volume, heavy duty, dogg crap, a combination of high volume/high intensity, etc, it's all about getting stronger overtime while gaining weight (muscle) progressively, at the end of the day, Arnold looked better than Mentzer in 1980, no disrespect to Mike though, he was great, and looked great
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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2023, 12:59:33 PM »
Mentzer was ok, but he was no Warrior!






THIS MAN WAS AN INTENSE MAN!
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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2023, 01:01:26 PM »
"Intense man" lol 😆

Seriously,  there was a guy on iron age whose handle was Intense man. And he got awfully defensive if anyone criticized Mike. But iron age had pretty tight guidelines on positive talk and keeping it respectful. So it never got too far out of hand.

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2023, 12:33:47 AM »
That may have been suicide
I think you are probably right. He would have died soon after anyway without his brother's kidney.

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Re: Mentzer vid gets owned big time!
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2023, 07:16:10 AM »
Does anyone know was John Little  "intense man" who used to post on ironage?
No that wasn`t Little......the guy used to post on my old board but I can`t remember his name but no not John Little.