Advanced cycle opinions please

[Thracian]

Great board BTW guys!

Wanted to see if my next cycle needs tweaking and what everyone thinks please.

This is my second cycle. 1st was last Sept. I ran it with a couple small breaks through March this year. Ran 500mg test e. Ramped up to 1000 by the time it ended. I quit gaining so I dropped to a bridge of 200mg test/week for a couple months that I'm doing now. Gained about 20lbs. I'm 49, 5'8" 200lbs. About 12-13% bf so my goal is to lean out slightly while gaining whatever additional mass I can.

Weeks 1-16 750mg test e
                 600mg Tren enanthate (BD makes it)
                 T3 throughout
                 Arimidex throughout
                 Dostinex throughout
                 200 grams protein ed
                 Total calories 3200?
Thanks.

[BIG_O]

Why would you take Cabergoline throughout the cycle?

How's the prostate? 49 years old right?

I would drop the Arimidex and use Nolvadex.

Your protein is too low. Only 800 grams of the 3200 will be coming from protein. That would leave 2400 grams from carbs and fat.

[Thracian]

It's my understanding that Cabergoline counteracts prolactin that Tren produces that squashes libido.

Prostate's good.

Good advice on protein, hadn't thought that through completely.
Thanks for thr reply.

[freakfestMD]

Dostinex is a must-have when on tren, to inhibit the prolactin side effects (which can include lactation!).  You don't list your dosages, but Dostinex has a fairly long 1/2 life, so you could probably get away with 0.5mg every 5 days.  You don't run it through your PCT, either.  Discontinue it with your last tren shot.

Double that protein intake to 400 gms and g r o w ...

[UK Gold]

Is this a joke? You ran 1000mgs of test on a first cycle? And you now want to do 750mgs plus tren? You're age doesn't mean you have to worry. Slow down.

[aussiejosh]

I dont know a whole lot about roids but how does being on your second cycle make you advanced

[BIG_O]

I'd kind of like to know where everybody is getting this whole prolactin thing from.

The old studies I posted years ago only showed this occurred in the Heifers that were taking the Synovex-Plus and this was in direct cause do the high estradiol concentration. Also it was causing small inhibition in dopaminergic binding to the lactotrophs in the anterior pituitary releasing excess Prolactin but the study clearly indicated why. Nothing what so ever in reference to Trenbolone. 

Androgens lower prolactin. Estrogens raise prolactin. Once again. Androgens lower prolactin. Estrogens raise prolactin.

Tren Gyno is a term that many people use. Tren like Nandrolone are 19Nor compounds. The aggravation of gynecomastia from either of these two compounds is caused from a formation of Estren or indirect aggravation of the ER.

http://mend.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/18/5/1120

If you want to prevent gynecomastia take Nolvadex. If you think you are getting gynecomastia take Nolvadex. Can't put it any more simple.

Cabergoline is a horrible drug that makes you feel like shit. Then again all dopamine agonists do.

Don't even get me started on aromatase inhibitors either............

[DIVISION]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:


Weeks 1-16   750MG Sustanon  EW
                   600MGTren Enanthate EW
Weeks 17-20 750MG Test Prop
                   50MG Winstrol ED
Weeks 1-20   Arimidex 1MG eod
                   HCG 500IU e5d   


^This along the lines of what I'd run if I were your age, experience etc.

You could add another anabolic in the beginning of the cycle if you want or add some T3/Clen at the end to cut.  That's your choice.  I'm not getting in to your diet.  I don't know enough about you to even begin to make those kind of recommendations.




DIV             

[Thracian]

I dont know a whole lot about roids but how does being on your second cycle make you advanced

I didn't mean it as bragging. My point is I've pretty much ran a 6 month cycle. I started at 500mg and as it lost effect I ran it up to 1gram as I went along. That was my 1st cycle but I've lifted all my life and feel like I've maxed out my natural ability. I'm 5'8" 200lbs, 34" waist, 17.5" arms. My thinking is maybe I need a little more compared to 21 year old for example that has just started lifting. I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking.

[Thracian]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:


Weeks 1-16   750MG Sustanon  EW
                   600MGTren Enanthate EW
Weeks 17-20 750MG Test Prop
                   50MG Winstrol ED
Weeks 1-20   Arimidex 1MG eod
                   HCG 500IU e5d   

Thanks that's what I'm asking. Couldn't decide between tren or deca or both. I'll probably drop the deca and run something like you suggest.


^This along the lines of what I'd run if I were your age, experience etc.

You could add another anabolic in the beginning of the cycle if you want or add some T3/Clen at the end to cut.  That's your choice.  I'm not getting in to your diet.  I don't know enough about you to even begin to make those kind of recommendations.




DIV