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Re: DORIAN training back with the 2 youngest german IFBB-Pros !!
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2023, 12:10:16 PM »
Exactly. Whenever I've felt sick or a bit faint rom training I stop immediately. Puking your gets out in the gym isn't hardcore. It's dumb.

You feel sick because blood rushes away from the stomach walls to another part of your body, training legs makes you feel sick because they need a lot of blood

It has nothing to do with intensity of effort

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« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2023, 12:17:03 PM »
You feel sick because blood rushes away from the stomach walls to another part of your body, training legs makes you feel sick because they need a lot of blood

It has nothing to do with intensity of effort

Isn't running or cycling rushing blood into your legs as well? Why don't you feel sick from Cardio then? ???

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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2023, 12:18:28 PM »
Isn't running or cycling rushing blood into your legs as well? Why don't you feel sick from Cardio then? ???

Aerobic/Anaerobic

Look into it

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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2023, 03:15:52 PM »
You feel sick because blood rushes away from the stomach walls to another part of your body, training legs makes you feel sick because they need a lot of blood

It has nothing to do with intensity of effort

It's because I'm going to hard or it's due to certain conditions in the gym.

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« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2023, 08:44:01 PM »
It is the same as in style.

Dorian's form wasn't that great and no better than most.

Volume guys don't get that injured. But Yates had many injuries because he used too much weight.

Cormier puked because their in the gym with hardly no air condition and it's underground. The "temple" was a shit hole. Had nothing to do with the "intensity."

I didn't even remember he puked. It can happen due to a variety of reasons. It's not a measure of training intensity. But with trained eye you could see he was going further, at one point trying to rack the weight before Dorian "forced" him to go on. In gyms, how often do you see guys actually totally miss a rep on hack squats? Not too often. On the leg press it almost NEVER happens. Guys just don't go to true failure no matter what they say. Seriously, how many times have you seen a big strong guy totally miss a leg press and smash the weight back? I've been in gyms for over 30 years and only seen it a couple of times. That Cormier only appeared to train hard due to bad ventilation is ridiculous.

I used to puke every single training session. Often puked before the session. Would puke after a single set of calf raises. Then a few years later it just stopped happening. Can't pin it on anything specific, can just say how it was for me. One "expert" I emailed thought it was probably the orals I took preworkout.

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Re: DORIAN training back with the 2 youngest german IFBB-Pros !!
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2023, 10:56:06 PM »
What are all the Negative Dorian folk basing how he trained on. ?
The Blood & Guts video ?

If so that one video constitutes exactly how he trained every time does it,
Well I know my workouts vary in weights & intensity & doing such as drop sets etc.

How many here trained at Temple gym & or knew those other than just Leroy
Who trained with & knew Dorian. ?

Sure is a Lot of experts on how Dorian trained on here .

I'm more a volume training person than 1-2 set HIT.


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« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2023, 10:58:17 PM »
What are all the Negative Dorian folk basing how he trained on. ?
The Blood & Guts video ?

If so that one video constitutes exactly how he trained every time does it,
Well I know my workouts vary in weights & intensity & doing such as drop sets etc.

How many here trained at Temple gym & or knew those other than just Leroy
Who trained with & knew Dorian. ?

Sure is a Lot of experts on how Dorian trained on here .

I'm more a volume training person than 1-2 set HIT.

Dorian > Ronnie

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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2023, 11:12:24 PM »
If it was about drugs, why isn't this guy Mr. Olympia then? ???



It's not all about drugs,you need to have a great drug response.

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« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2023, 11:42:42 PM »
If it was about drugs, why isn't this guy Mr. Olympia then? ???



Probably because he's dead.

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« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2023, 12:13:26 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2023, 12:37:52 AM »
Who wins in a fight, Dorian or Ronnie?

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« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2023, 12:40:05 AM »
Who wins in a fight, Dorian or Ronnie?
Can Ronnie use his cane or wheelchair as a weapon?

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« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2023, 12:53:38 AM »
Can Ronnie use his cane or wheelchair as a weapon?
Bro...

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« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2023, 04:03:23 AM »
It's because I'm going to hard or it's due to certain conditions in the gym.
too fast

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« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2023, 04:05:28 AM »


I used to puke every single training session. Often puked before the session. Would puke after a single set of calf raises. Then a few years later it just stopped happening. Can't pin it on anything specific, can just say how it was for me. One "expert" I emailed thought it was probably the orals I took preworkout.
thats called Bulimia

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« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2023, 10:39:17 AM »
What are all the Negative Dorian folk basing how he trained on. ?
The Blood & Guts video ?

If so that one video constitutes exactly how he trained every time does it,
Well I know my workouts vary in weights & intensity & doing such as drop sets etc.

How many here trained at Temple gym & or knew those other than just Leroy
Who trained with & knew Dorian. ?

Sure is a Lot of experts on how Dorian trained on here .

I'm more a volume training person than 1-2 set HIT.

His early journals and articles from the 80's show how he really trained to build up. It was not one set. He did various methods such as pyramid sets, straight sets, reverse sets, drop sets etc to build up. Blood and Guts the vid is just for entertainment purposes. Yates has built a "myth" around that vid but it sure was not the way he trained most of the time.

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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2023, 12:37:22 PM »
DORIAN training back with the 2 youngest german IFBB-Pros !!

did it work out...

where are they now ?

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« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2023, 03:53:08 PM »
His early journals and articles from the 80's show how he really trained to build up. It was not one set. He did various methods such as pyramid sets, straight sets, reverse sets, drop sets etc to build up. Blood and Guts the vid is just for entertainment purposes. Yates has built a "myth" around that vid but it sure was not the way he trained most of the time.

He did a three-day torso/limbs split with a decent amount of sets three days per week for years.

Then he went to a two-on, one-off, one-on, one-off split:
Workout 1: chest, bis, tris
Workout 2: legs
Workout 3: shoulders, back

Then he went to a four way split in which “only worked out for 45 minutes per week, four times per week,” with “one set to failure.”

He went to one set after he… yawn… met Mike Mentzer… and… yawn… did a workout with him and … yawn… he, as per Mike, reported to Mike, that his biceps got bigger by the next morning.