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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2024, 11:59:50 AM »
Big pharma bribes docs to script thier products, by giving them "gifts" for doing so

Yes, trips to seminars (fun filled vacations), free stuff, etc.

Pharma Salesman is a good gig.

Many docs try to avoid them as they have limited time in their day.

Medical Practices today (often large corporate organizations) have regimented how docs treat things.  Docs have to go along with the program.

Insurance companies require things done in a certain way.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2024, 12:29:06 AM »
Big pharma bribes docs to script thier products, by giving them "gifts" for doing so
Not to mention TV ads.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2024, 12:30:51 AM »
Not to mention TV ads.
Yup,they are all in cahoots and making huge money off the public.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2024, 12:51:48 AM »
Yup,they are all in cahoots and making huge money off the public.
Why don't they just advertise to doctors who prescribe the pills? Advertising to the public seems like a waste of money.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2024, 12:56:33 AM »
Why don't they just advertise to doctors who prescribe the pills? Advertising to the public seems like a waste of money.
Exactly

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2024, 03:31:25 AM »
Two years ago I saw a cardiologist.  She said your white blood cells are a little high but nothing to be concerned about. Year later I saw a GP saying the same thing. Then I saw another GP and mentioned how both docs said it's nothing to be worried about. He gave me the name of a blood oncologist. I saw him and he said it's probably nothing but he will order a 10K test where a pathologist doctor hand examines my blood.  That doc sent a report to my blood oncologist that I had leukemia. A large percentage of my B cells were malignant cancer. Insurance by the way paid 8K for the test and they forgave the other 2K.  If I never went to that blood oncologist I would be wondering why I couldn't fight infections because of my compromised immune system due to leukemia. Without that oncologist I bet I would have seen doctor after doctor with them all coming up with a different conclusion. Feeling well now. Last visit the oncologist said my numbers are stabilized and not rising. He said it could rapidly increase in short order or stay stable for years. He has  seen it both ways. 

Everything a doctor does is a pay day.  See a gastro guy and he will order an upper and lower scope. Guess what, he owns the scope place. In the hospital they will tell all their friends in their different fields to check you out. If a doc introduces himself to you know he looked at you lab work and is charging you.

All the steroids you’ve taken have you seeing all these doctors and suffering from disease. Were the fake muscles worth it? Naturals never have any health issues.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2024, 04:24:10 AM »
Yup,they are all in cahoots and making huge money off the public.

They are cahooting like crazy, bro.

More cahooting than you'd want to believe.

Over-the-top cahooting.


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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2024, 04:32:23 AM »
I had Gall Bladder problems and they sent me to  surgeon....I never had an operation in my life and it may sound faggy but I`m petrified to ever have one.

Anyway the surgeon says to me about my Gall Bladder....."It`s probably nothing,but I think we should remove it.

She said that in the same fucking breath....I promptly replied...."WELL..BYE" !!

I told my therapist about it and her exact workers were......."Tim,surgeons make a lot of money".....implying of course they make big bucks for surgeries that aren`t even necessary.

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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2024, 06:30:01 AM »
People complain that the docs want patients sick so they have a job, which is why they won't push lifestyle changes but push drugs instead.

I think they do push lifestyle changes, for example talk about sleep hygiene if someone can't sleep. But the thing is, people rarely change their lifestyles. People rarely change their diet to avoid illnesses long term. So what is a doc to do? Demand food discipline? It won't work! If a fatty comes in with elevated sugars what should the doc do, refuse to script metformin and demand lifestyle changes? Of course there's a lot of problems with healthcare but what are the alternatives that will work so much better? It's easy to complain and not offer solutions.

There's 2 things that will solve the obesity epidemic: famine/extreme food scarcity or effective appetite suppressing drugs. Demanding discipline with this amount of available food even if poor will simply never work. Convince me otherwise. What should the authorities do instead of what they do now? Maybe some really authoritarian system where a parent goes to jail if they give their kids sweets or lets them get overweight. Cameras in everyone's fridge.

I'm eating a Snickers right now... come and take it, pigs! From my dead cold hands...

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2024, 06:37:42 AM »
People complain that the docs want patients sick so they have a job, which is why they won't push lifestyle changes but push drugs instead.

I think they do push lifestyle changes, for example talk about sleep hygiene if someone can't sleep. But the thing is, people rarely change their lifestyles. People rarely change their diet to avoid illnesses long term. So what is a doc to do? Demand food discipline? It won't work! If a fatty comes in with elevated sugars what should the doc do, refuse to script metformin and demand lifestyle changes? Of course there's a lot of problems with healthcare but what are the alternatives that will work so much better? It's easy to complain and not offer solutions.

There's 2 things that will solve the obesity epidemic: famine/extreme food scarcity or effective appetite suppressing drugs. Demanding discipline with this amount of available food even if poor will simply never work. Convince me otherwise. What should the authorities do instead of what they do now? Maybe some really authoritarian system where a parent goes to jail if they give their kids sweets or lets them get overweight. Cameras in everyone's fridge.

I'm eating a Snickers right now... come and take it, pigs! From my dead cold hands...

Many over eat as a drug to treat thier depression imho

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2024, 06:57:31 AM »
They are cahooting like crazy, bro.

More cahooting than you'd want to believe.

Over-the-top cahooting.




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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2024, 07:12:26 AM »
People complain that the docs want patients sick so they have a job, which is why they won't push lifestyle changes but push drugs instead.

I think they do push lifestyle changes, for example talk about sleep hygiene if someone can't sleep. But the thing is, people rarely change their lifestyles. People rarely change their diet to avoid illnesses long term. So what is a doc to do? Demand food discipline? It won't work! If a fatty comes in with elevated sugars what should the doc do, refuse to script metformin and demand lifestyle changes? Of course there's a lot of problems with healthcare but what are the alternatives that will work so much better? It's easy to complain and not offer solutions.

There's 2 things that will solve the obesity epidemic: famine/extreme food scarcity or effective appetite suppressing drugs. Demanding discipline with this amount of available food even if poor will simply never work. Convince me otherwise. What should the authorities do instead of what they do now? Maybe some really authoritarian system where a parent goes to jail if they give their kids sweets or lets them get overweight. Cameras in everyone's fridge.

I'm eating a Snickers right now... come and take it, pigs! From my dead cold hands...

Maybe ban this shit or at least ban certain incredients and simple carb/saturated fat ratios in these awful ultra-processed foods.

*Edit* on my way to get mars ice cream bar.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2024, 08:08:54 AM »
People have the right to eat garbage.

All you can do is make the info readily available and let them decide.

F*ck the Nanny State.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2024, 08:24:22 AM »
Maybe ban this shit or at least ban certain incredients and simple carb/saturated fat ratios in these awful ultra-processed foods.

*Edit* on my way to get mars ice cream bar.

Just be sure you only eat half of it

Problem is most are such weak willed pussies that once they taste such high processed foods they can not control themselves and they gorge the flying fuck out of it

But you, well I'm pretty sure you're a tough minded sob😎

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2024, 09:30:38 AM »
People have the right to eat garbage.

All you can do is make the info readily available and let them decide.

F*ck the Nanny State.

I agree. But I also get pissed off about having to pay for their healthcare. They gorge themselves into obesity and my tax dollars pays for their diabetes care, bariatric surgeries, etc. It isn't feasible but a fat tax is a pipedream that would at least alleviate that problem. If they can tax carbon they should tax fatties too.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2024, 10:05:15 AM »
I agree. But I also get pissed off about having to pay for their healthcare. They gorge themselves into obesity and my tax dollars pays for their diabetes care, bariatric surgeries, etc. It isn't feasible but a fat tax is a pipedream that would at least alleviate that problem. If they can tax carbon they should tax fatties too.

They die sooner so they don't get Medicare or Social Security as long.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2024, 10:31:25 AM »
I agree. But I also get pissed off about having to pay for their healthcare. They gorge themselves into obesity and my tax dollars pays for their diabetes care, bariatric surgeries, etc. It isn't feasible but a fat tax is a pipedream that would at least alleviate that problem. If they can tax carbon they should tax fatties too.

Correct-o-mundo

They will never have a fat tax coz that would offend them and hurt Thier little fweelings

Plus the shit is SA is pushing fat acceptance very hard now

Strange shit

Guess they either want them dead or they want to capitalize on them and sell them products they deem are right for them

Adverts just to only have attractive people with the idea that if you buy their good or service you will be attractive

Now they just realise that the vast majority of Americans are fat and ugly so this has now become the new attractive

Clown world

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2024, 11:27:33 PM »
Maybe ban this shit or at least ban certain incredients and simple carb/saturated fat ratios in these awful ultra-processed foods.

*Edit* on my way to get mars ice cream bar.

You'd need like a North Korean system to implement it. But imagine banning pizza or Italian pasta or fatty steaks lol, things with natural ingredients. You can eat most things, it's the volume that's the problem and how would you enforce a volume ban? Nah, I believe mostly in the drugs, the other options are unworkable. If these new injections aren't too bad over the long term side effects wise, that's a step in the right direction imo. We want our crap when we want it and want zero new laws controlling us, at least most do not. ;D
There was a leftist here in Sweden who demanded bans on ingredients because he couldn't control himself.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2024, 06:29:39 AM »
All the steroids you’ve taken have you seeing all these doctors and suffering from disease. Were the fake muscles worth it? Naturals never have any health issues.

I don't take steroids and I never have. If you are being sarcastic saying non steroid users have health problems too it's a pretty weak attempt at being clever. So keep taking your drugs and using your simpleton rationalizations to justify it.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2024, 08:05:13 AM »
I don't take steroids and I never have. If you are being sarcastic saying non steroid users have health problems too it's a pretty weak attempt at being clever. So keep taking your drugs and using your simpleton rationalizations to justify it.

I also got the impression that you had dabbled decades ago since you knew how "strong" Anadrol was. But whatever.

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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2024, 10:04:00 AM »
Steroids were so potent long ago that you got second-hand growth just being near someone who dabbled.

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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2024, 10:57:23 AM »
Yes, trips to seminars (fun filled vacations), free stuff, etc.

Pharma Salesman is a good gig.

Many docs try to avoid them as they have limited time in their day.

Medical Practices today (often large corporate organizations) have regimented how docs treat things.  Docs have to go along with the program.

Insurance companies require things done in a certain way.
The women reps do well, men not so much.
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Re: 10 Things You MUST KNOW Before Your Next Hospital Visit
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2024, 12:22:14 PM »
The women reps do well, men not so much.

Especially the good looking ones.

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« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2024, 12:37:18 PM »
Steroids were so potent long ago that you got second-hand growth just being near someone who dabbled.

There's.a famous study where they had 4 groups

1 group trained and took gear one trained and didn't take gear one took gear and didn't train and one didn't train and didn't take gear

Of course the ones who trained and took gear gained the most muscle and those who didn't train and didn't take gear gained no muscle

But... The ones who took gear and didn't train gained more muscle than the ones who trained and didn't take gear

I'd like to see photos of them because I bet they didn't look any more muscular than before just bigger with water gain that measured as muscle.since any weight gained gained without fat is considered muscle

So those that gained with gear and without training shit looked like shit I bet


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« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2024, 12:42:06 PM »
Their plan for obesity is Ozempic etc.

The masses may eventually take it.