Russia has penetrated Ukraine

[dj181]

I said 2 minutes. Nevermind, it's not for you. The fella is an entertaining and funny word wrangler, with a pretty good value base that coincides largely with mine. Commenters can't decide if he is far left or far right; what the establishment thinks is that he is 'dangerous.' He thinks Trump is an absolute clown but thinks having talks with the adversary is the right way, and he's done some pro-Trump signaling in the past. Like use the phrase "make great again." No, he wouldn't agree with you that Zionism is mainly about curbing free speech.

Regarding the meeting at the White House today, I think it will be a total clown show again.

The Euros pretend to not understand anything.

Trump and Witkoff are completely misrepresenting what came out of Alaska.

Here's the reality in my amateur opinion:  Trump and the US will never give any f-ing security agreements to Ukraine, the kind that they pretend are on the table, with aricle 5 protections. Laughable.

Putin has not agreed for there being an international 'peace keeping force' in Ukraine. Absurd baloney.

There being any kind of "Peace agreements" of the kind acceptable to both Putin and Zelensky will not happen in a million years. Zelensky will not give up any territory at all. He can't, or he is out of there, probably killed by his own. Besides, Zelensky has said they would have to amend their constitution for that to even have a chance of happening.
I doubt Putin has agreed to any land swaps where they give back territory, it's US propaganda mischaracterizing Putin's words. Willfully. Trump has accepted the Russian line that any ceasefire agreements are off the table, never gonna happen. Good luck trying to get the Euros to accept it, they are going insane right now.

I doubt Putin will see Zelensky ever, forget about the three part negotiations. Utter ridiculousness.

Summa summarum: the war will be deicided on the battlefield. Let's see how off the mark I'll be

Regarding accepting that Ukraine won't ever become a NATO member; I think I glanced some comments about it above. Say the Euros and even Ukraine accepted it; as far as the Euros are concerned Ukraine is already a de facto member. Wholly unacceptable to Russia. What remains to be seen if Trump finally shows some balls, walks away and gives it to the Euros to handle. I have my doubts.

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Shitsa just wants to continue to try and weaken Russia but letting Ukrainians die

Hate them with a FUCKIING passion!!!!!!!!!

[BigRo]

Shitsa just wants to continue to try and weaken Russia but letting Ukrainians die

Hate them with a FUCKIING passion!!!!!!!!!

Russia weakened herself by invading a sovereign nation, sending millions of her men to the slaughter over land they are not protecting or defending.

[Van_Bilderass]

Shitsa just wants to continue to try and weaken Russia but letting Ukrainians die

Hate them with a FUCKIING passion!!!!!!!!!

It's Ukraine's right to fight to the last man, it might even be admirable depending on how you look at it. It's for the Ukrainians to decide what they find acceptable and just. But at the same it's also true that The Empire doesn't care one whit about regular Ukrainians dying, it's not a consideration for them at all, so they just egg it on. This could be highly immoral to some but not to others. See joswift's thread on morality

[dj181]

It's Ukraine's right to fight to the last man, it might even be admirable depending on how you look at it. It's for the Ukrainians to decide what they find acceptable and just. But at the same it's also true that The Empire doesn't care one whit about regular Ukrainians dying, it's not a consideration for them at all, so they just egg it on. This could be highly immoral to some but not to others. See joswift's thread on morality

Nope those shits pukesa told Z not to sign a treaty with Russia back in may 2022

Pukesa wants to sell more of thier weapons

Fuck them to hell!!!!!

[Griffith]

I said 2 minutes. Nevermind, it's not for you. The fella is an entertaining and funny word wrangler, with a pretty good value base that coincides largely with mine. Commenters can't decide if he is far left or far right; what the establishment thinks is that he is 'dangerous.' He thinks Trump is an absolute clown but thinks having talks with the adversary is the right way, and he's done some pro-Trump signaling in the past. Like use the phrase "make great again." No, he wouldn't agree with you that Zionism is mainly about curbing free speech.

Regarding the meeting at the White House today, I think it will be a total clown show again.

The Euros pretend to not understand anything.

Trump and Witkoff are completely misrepresenting what came out of Alaska.

Here's the reality in my amateur opinion: Trump and the US will never give any f-ing security agreements to Ukraine, the kind that they pretend are on the table, with article 5 protections. Laughable.

Putin has not agreed for there being an international 'peace keeping force' in Ukraine. Absurd baloney.

There being any kind of "Peace agreements" of the kind acceptable to both Putin and Zelensky will not happen in a million years. Zelensky will not give up any territory at all. He can't, or he is out of there, probably killed by his own. Besides, Zelensky has said they would have to amend their constitution for that to even having a chance of happening.
I doubt Putin has agreed to any land swaps where they give back territory, it's US propaganda mischaracterizing Putin's words. Willfully. Trump has accepted the Russian line that any ceasefire agreements are off the table, never gonna happen. Good luck trying to get the Euros to accept it, they are going insane right now.

I doubt Putin will see Zelensky ever, forget about the three part negotiations. Utter ridiculousness.

Summa summarum: the war will be deicided on the battlefield. Let's see how off the mark I'll be

Regarding accepting that Ukraine won't ever become a NATO member; I think I glanced some comments about it above. Say the Euros and even Ukraine accepted it; as far as the Euros are concerned Ukraine is already a de facto member. Wholly unacceptable to Russia. What remains to be seen id if Trump finally shows some balls, walks away and gives it to the Euros to handle. I have my doubts.

The Korean War technically never ended, there was only a ceasefire and it's remained that way since 1953.

Both sides agree to a ceasefire, keep what they have and then neither side can be accused of surrendering.

[BigRo]

Nope those shits pukesa told Z not to sign a treaty with Russia back in may 2022

Pukesa wants to sell more of thier weapons

Fuck them to hell!!!!!

Putin has a job for you.

[Irongrip400]

Russia weakened herself by invading a sovereign nation, sending millions of her men to the slaughter over land they are not protecting or defending.

They may have sent them needlessly but it doesn’t change the fact they are winning on the battlefield and that is what is going to dictate any peace. That you can’t see this boggles my mind.

[Griffith]

[BigRo]

They may have sent them needlessly but it doesn’t change the fact they are winning on the battlefield and that is what is going to dictate any peace. That you can’t see this boggles my mind.

The km per soldier KIA ratio is not winning, so few km so many dead Russians.

[Irongrip400]

The km per soldier KIA ratio is not winning, so few km so many dead Russians.

Dude, they occupy 20% of the country, what maps are you looking at?

[BigRo]

Dude, they occupy 20% of the country, what maps are you looking at?

23 percent in 2023.

[Van_Bilderass]

The km per soldier KIA ratio is not winning, so few km so many dead Russians.

I don't bother to 'analyze' battlefield data, don't have the competence to do so anyway. But many analysts say Russia's goal is to attrition the army and deplete their weapons. It's taken much longer to finish than these guys anticipated but they think "very soon" there will be a sudden collapse for Ukraine. Some Ukrainians claim they can keep this going to at least 2034.

For Russia biased commentary I like this fella. He offers battlefield analysis frequently. I don't really read those parts though and I can't interpret it anyway, but the other commentary looks impressive to me. He quotes Ukie sources a lot on the battlefield analysis.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/

[dj181]

I don't bother to 'analyze' battlefield data, don't have the competence to do so anyway. But many analysts say Russia's goal is to attrition the army and deplete their weapons. It's taken much longer to finish than these guys anticipated but they think "very soon" there will be a sudden collapse for Ukraine. Some Ukrainians claim they can keep this going to at least 2034.

For Russia biased commentary I like this fella. He offers battlefield analysis frequently. I don't really read those parts though and I can't interpret it anyway, but the other commentary looks impressive to me. He quotes Ukie sources a lot on the battlefield analysis.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/

Was just rapping to another dude and he confirmed that the vast majority of Ukrainians here are asshloes

This is the 3rd time hearing this

[joswift]

Was just raping another dude and he confirmed that the vast majority of Ukrainians here are asshloes

This is the 3rd time hearing this

fixed

[Griffith]

According to Ukraine, these are Russian losses:



https://en.defence-ua.com/news/1271_days_of_russia_ukraine_war_russian_casualties_in_ukraine-15502.html

[BigRo]

Was just rapping to another dude and he confirmed that the vast majority of Ukrainians here are asshloes

This is the 3rd time hearing this

Any specific examples?

[Irongrip400]

23 percent in 2023.

Yeah man, they’re totally whipping their asses and Ukraine is not getting pushed back steadily since the Kursk offensive.