Anti-American

[Dos Equis]

Seriously WTF is so very wrong with these Leftists

Mental illness. 

[Dos Equis]

You may be right in that the states' prosecution may not be successful because ultimately the case will end up in federal court. However, this does not mean that governors enforcing their state laws is pandering to leftists as you suggest.

Honestly, would you say the same thing if the governors prosecuting federal law enforcement officers for breaking state laws were right-leaning republicans like Governor Greg Abbott (R-TX), Governor Bill Lee (R-TN), Governor Brad Little (R-ID), Governor Henry McMaster (R-SC), or Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders (R-AR) and the President and the administration were left-leaning democrats?

I am right.  About the purported prosecutions and the governor's motivation. 

Let me know when any of the governors you mentioned openly violate federal law and threaten to prosecute federal agents trying to enforce that federal law. 

[Primemuscle]

I am right.  About the purported prosecutions and the governor's motivation. 

Let me know when any of the governors you mentioned openly violate federal law and threaten to prosecute federal agents trying to enforce that federal law.

Where does your comment about the governors violating federal law come from? Are you saying governors who seek to prosecute federal agents for violating state laws are in turn violating federal laws?  If so, I believe you are mistaken. Is there a federal law against prosecuting someone for violating state laws? A state can prosecute a federal agent for a state law violation if the agent was not acting within the scope of their official duties or if the action was not necessary to fulfilling their federal role.

[chaos]

Where does your comment about the governors violating federal law come from? Are you saying governors who seek to prosecute federal agents for violating state laws are in turn violating federal laws? Is there a federal law against prosecuting someone for violating state laws? If so, I believe you are mistaken. A state can prosecute a federal agent for a state law violation if the agent was not acting within the scope of their official duties or if the action was not necessary to fulfilling their federal role.

Reading comprehension 101

[Primemuscle]

Reading comprehension 101

Yup, check yours.

I am right.  About the purported prosecutions and the governor's motivation. 

Let me know when any of the governors you mentioned openly violate federal law and threaten to prosecute federal agents trying to enforce that federal law.

[chaos]

Yup, check yours.

I'm not the one declining mentally.

Where does your comment about the governors violating federal law come from? Are you saying governors who seek to prosecute federal agents for violating state laws are in turn violating federal laws?  If so, I believe you are mistaken. Is there a federal law against prosecuting someone for violating state laws? A state can prosecute a federal agent for a state law violation if the agent was not acting within the scope of their official duties or if the action was not necessary to fulfilling their federal role.

[Dos Equis]

Where does your comment about the governors violating federal law come from? Are you saying governors who seek to prosecute federal agents for violating state laws are in turn violating federal laws?  If so, I believe you are mistaken. Is there a federal law against prosecuting someone for violating state laws? A state can prosecute a federal agent for a state law violation if the agent was not acting within the scope of their official duties or if the action was not necessary to fulfilling their federal role.

My comment comes from your question. 

This is about the Oregon governor openly failing to enforce federal immigration law (Oregon is a "sanctuary state") and threatening to try and prosecute ICE agents for enforce federal immigration law.  You can try and ask hypothetical questions about some unnamed state law allegedly being violated by ICE agents, but Oregon successfully prosecuting ICE agents for enforcing federal immigration law is never going to happen. 

[chaos]

My comment comes from your question. 

This is about the Oregon governor openly failing to enforce federal immigration law (Oregon is a "sanctuary state") and threatening to try and prosecute ICE agents for enforce federal immigration law.  You can try and ask hypothetical questions about some unnamed state law allegedly being violated by ICE agents, but Oregon successfully prosecuting ICE agents for enforcing federal immigration law is never going to happen.

Could you dumb it down more with some smaller words for him?

[Primemuscle]

My comment comes from your question. 

This is about the Oregon governor openly failing to enforce federal immigration law (Oregon is a "sanctuary state") and threatening to try and prosecute ICE agents for enforce federal immigration law.  You can try and ask hypothetical questions about some unnamed state law allegedly being violated by ICE agents, but Oregon successfully prosecuting ICE agents for enforcing federal immigration law is never going to happen.

Not that the current administration 'gives a rat's ass' about following the U.S. Constitution, but:

Tenth Amendment Rights Reserved to the States and the People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Further defined; As per the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the the federal government cannot "command" state and local officials to enforce federal law, including immigration law. In legal challenges to sanctuary policies, courts have consistently rejected efforts to force states to comply with federal immigration enforcement requests.

[illuminati]

Not that the current administration 'gives a rat's ass' about following the U.S. Constitution, but:

Tenth Amendment Rights Reserved to the States and the People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Further defined; As per the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the the federal government cannot "command" state and local officials to enforce federal law, including immigration law. In legal challenges to sanctuary policies, courts have consistently rejected efforts to force states to comply with federal immigration enforcement requests.

You do post some stupid things.
Yeah like your lot gave a rats arse & still don't.

Its not only Pedo Joe whose not fully Cognitive

[Dos Equis]

Not that the current administration 'gives a rat's ass' about following the U.S. Constitution, but:

Tenth Amendment Rights Reserved to the States and the People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Further defined; As per the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the the federal government cannot "command" state and local officials to enforce federal law, including immigration law. In legal challenges to sanctuary policies, courts have consistently rejected efforts to force states to comply with federal immigration enforcement requests.

Immigration law/enforcement is not reserved to the states, so not sure why you mentioned the 10th Amendment.  Go ask your source about "preemption" and the "supremacy clause." 

[Primemuscle]

You do post some stupid things.
Yeah like your lot gave a rats arse & still don't.

Its not only Pedo Joe whose not fully Cognitive

Since I have no legal authority over others, what I do or do not give a rat's ass about is of little consequence beyond any personal consequences I might suffer for breaking the law if caught. I am not sure what you think is my 'lot' so I cannot address this remark of yours.

The U.S. federal government absolutely must follow the Constitution because it is the "supreme law of the land". Federal courts, including the Supreme Court, have the authority to review presidential actions and strike them down if they are found to be unconstitutional or exceed statutory authority.

[illuminati]

Since I have no legal authority over others, what I do or do not give a rat's ass about is of little consequence beyond any personal consequences I might suffer for breaking the law if caught. I am not sure what you think is my 'lot' so I cannot address this remark of yours.

The U.S. federal government absolutely must follow the Constitution because it is the "supreme law of the land". Federal courts, including the Supreme Court, have the authority to review presidential actions and strike them down if they are found to be unconstitutional or exceed statutory authority.

 🥱  boring   

[avxo]

I believe federal law enforcement officers enforcing federal law will never be successfully prosecuted by any state, so the Governor's statement is anti-American partisan gibberish designed to pander to leftists who support illegal immigration.

Your response is a a bit of a cop-out—which is your usual modus operandi. Except it’s now laced with the sort of vitriolic language that is oh-so-popular today—terms like “anti-American” which intended to polarize the situation and shut down debate and nuanced discussion. And that is un-American.

While government agents enjoy immunity—and this is especially true of law enforcement agents—they are not exempt from complying with the law—State or Federal.

A State can file charges against Federal agents in State court, although such charges would likely be removed to Federal Court under 28 U.S.C. §1442(a)(1) and proceedings would continue, with the Court applying State substantive laws and Federal procedural laws.

It’s true that any such prosecution would face an incredibly high bar; see Oregon v. Landis for an egregious example. But that doesn’t mean that charges shouldn’t be filed when federal agents violate state law.

And that was the salient point, I think: government, at all levels, should be enforcing the laws, but its agents should not be exempt from obeying the laws in the conduct of their duties.