Brian Shaw talks about fighting top fighters

[Phantom Spunker]

And what kind of insight is that easily exactly? That I should stick to oiling up my glutes for a panel of judges just because you sparked out some useless giraffe? I have a mean uppercut too.

A useless giraffe who was around a foot taller than me, 150lbs heavier, and an explosive athlete. Point being, I can do it, and I'm nowhere near a heavyweight. Shaw is huge but when you're hit with a bomb, you're going over.

And, no. I think it's cool you're getting more into boxing and, who knows, maybe you have potential. But, correct me if I'm wrong, you've only really been touch-sparring little guys. I'm saying you should give it a serious go and find out if it's something you love.

[BigRo]

I see, well having a good chin does not always correspond with being big and vice versa. I don't know how Brian Shaw would get on but he appears to be extremely sturdy and thick necked.

I am quite tired of bodybuilding contests and love boxing training and don't really know if I would have a love for real bouts unless I tried it like you say.

I think your example of a light guy wobbling a big dude is an anomaly, they have weight classes for a reason. But I,m not daft enough to think power comes from size alone.

Back in 2015 I think, I sparred as part of training a former heavyweight local boxer. He also happened to be a farmer who stopped me one day because I crossed his fence picking magic mushrooms. At the time I was more the stereotypical bodybuilder build but still had power. He threw a right that landed smack on that was not sparring level, nah. I stopped for a moment and smiled, it stunned a bit but nothing bad. I went out for revenge and got through with a stiff power jab but if it was today and he was still a younger man I would say let's rumble.

My last street fight was when I was 15 I think. It was around this time of the year and I was on a date with a lass from school. I was fit and strong back then already. A group of teens on the city walls throwing snowballs at people down below said "if you throw that snowball at us we'll batter ye" so I went and threw it at them, perhaps to impress the girl. I walked up to them and the "strongest" guy steps forward and we begin. I took a few but was nailing him hard and fast down the pipe. He stepped back and I lowered my hands inviting the group to take pot shots so a few others took digs but I stood there motionless then they ran off (true story).

Ps: still might have a hot bird tan my glutes next year.

[38 returns]

RO

you should go down your local boxing club and train 2/3 nights a week. you will either love it or decide its not for you but its the only way to do it.

i hear what you say about a small guy hurting a big guy and weight classes . however a small trained boxer will batter an untrained big fella 95 times out of a hundred in my experience. a big boxer usually beats a small boxer. but its the training that makes the difference- getdown there and have a go- the very worst that will happen is you will fun and earn ad gain respect off the lads who train there.

i recall an ex poster here who used to boast because he was a wrestler at high school level he would rag doll tyson. the speed and power and accuracy and timing that tyson had woul dmean the wrestler would get hit on the way in and not get up.

ive sparred and trained with pro boxers orignally because at 16 i was adecent amateur. sparring with pro's let me know I was kidding myself. i could throw big shots, knock people out and had great footwork but good boxers are just quicker and smarter than I ever was. there is something almost ballletic about great boxing its like a fucking dance. a dance where you can get levelled in a second!I train twice a week- pure boxing and I love it and dread it in equal measure. every man should do it.

[BigRo]

I have been to the local club. I also recently body sparred lads who fight in the gym (bested them) I paid a coach (light heavy boxer) too for a session here in England, he was impressed with the power. But honestly I have learnt and improved the most training alone in a meditative state. It would be great to train with an excellent coach though.

[BigRo]

38 what kind of style suits you?

Are you a forward moving pressure fighter, a backfoot counter striker or more a brawler? Do you dance in and out with the pendulum step?

[38 returns]

i was technically competent- a background in martial arts helped with that in terms of overall balance etc. I was a pressure fighter with a big left hand (southpaw) and an ability to set traps- again largely because of martial arts stuff. my distance was good and my fitness was decent.

I didnt enjoy slick in and out boxers. just too quick for me and couldnt set them up for shots well. but a slick boxer with a rapid jab and move was a pain in the fucking arse for me! i wasnt worried about taking a shot which is fine when you are getting through but gets tired quick when everywhere you move a piston like left jab is there to meet you!

anyone who gets in and has a go has my respect. and I mean that. you learn so much about yourself the first time you get properly pinged- its sink or swim and there is no shame in either!

my son is 8 and goes twice a week as its a bit fo fun andgood to learn in my opinion. he's mixed race and his footwork is poetic! he fucking glides and is starting to develop - miles better genetics than me athletically buti dont think he has the mental genetics I had to bite down on the gum shield. and in a way i am glad- I would have failed him if he went on to make decisions i made. i grew up with tough love and beatings. violence begets violence.

I've never raised my voice let alone my hand to either child and never would.

[BigRo]

That's great you don't raise your voice or smack him, he will grow up with love and respect for you.

Guys used to trade in the pocket more than today. I guess its smarter for brain health to stay elusive.

[38 returns]

thank you thats very kind and what i am working towards.

you are right about elusivity? is that a word!

we used to train where one would put a tyre down and put his foot in the other would put his foot in. loser stepped out of the tyre first.

there is a lot to be said in terms of longevity in the brendan ingle school of training where avoiding getting hit and no head sparring is the order of the day!

[BigRo]

Thing is without head sparring there is not adequate practise actually aiming for and connecting with the head but it can definitely increase body work capacity, timing and stamina. Alot of CTE in even amatuer boxing unfortunately.

[deadz]

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=853136037463368

He'd kill mcgregor but fury and ngannou.
No

Shaw is tearing something on his first punch. What an idiot!

[38 returns]

Thing is without head sparring there is not adequate practise actually aiming for and connecting with the head but it can definitely increase body work capacity, timing and stamina. Alot of CTE in even amatuer boxing unfortunately.

its a fair point

i recall a club in liverpool who used to do a headhunters sparring with no headguards to 'toughen you up'. absolute stupidity.

[AbrahamG]

Poor attempt at being funny, stop projecting your fantasy weakling.

Your bag work is a crime against humanity.  You'd get starched by an average lightweight.  Starched = Out Cold here in the States. 

[BigRo]

Your bag work is a crime against humanity.  You'd get starched by an average lightweight.  Starched = Out Cold here in the States.

No, your jackass comment is. Will you show how its done? No, because your a fucking coward.

[AbrahamG]

No, your jackass comment is. Will you show how its done? No, because your a fucking coward.

We don't live on the same continent.  Dumb, dumb. 

[BigRo]

We don't live on the same continent.  Dumb, dumb.

Make a fucking video dumb dumb. You won't.

[AbrahamG]

Make a fucking video dumb dumb. You won't.

Not my thing.  In all seriousness, my bag work, foot work, etc. was better than your when I was 9.  I'm sure you're getting better.  Don't be discouraged.  I'm mostly joking. 

 

[BigRo]

Not my thing.  In all seriousness, my bag work, foot work, etc. was better than your when I was 9.  I'm sure you're getting better.  Don't be discouraged.  I'm mostly joking. 

 

Oh its "not my thing" 

I,l knock u around with my celtic package hombre.

[NaturalWonder83]

Oh its "not my thing" 

I,l knock u around with my celtic package hombre.

You look like a statue of Brennus.

[AbrahamG]

Oh its "not my thing" 

I,l knock u around with my celtic package hombre.

Don't threaten me with a good time. 

[MuscleBuff]

This shit is so old and overdone. Bob Sap, Mariusz Pudzianowski and so on and so forth. There is nothing interesting about "big men doing big things"

[IroNat]

BigRo,
Instead of boxing you could just pound your head on a wall to get similar brain lesions.

[BigRo]

BigRo,
Instead of boxing you could just pound your head on a wall to get similar brain lesions.

And a broken skull no thanks.

[IroNat]

And a broken skull no thanks.

Start light with just tapping the wall and build up over time to full-on head slams.

[BigRo]

Start light with just tapping the wall and build up over time to full-on head slams.

Sounds atrocious but I might add in headbutting a water bag into my repertoire.