Author Topic: D-bol Only kidney pain (Read 6273 times)

smoothasf · « **on:** April 21, 2006, 01:17:35 PM »

I know i should be taking test with pink stars but i get nasty water retention. I've been taking these for about 8 weeks 8 tabs a day 4 morning 4 before bed. After 2 weeks i got kidney pains so i stopped taking them for a few days, after that i was fine but 6 weeks later i feel like my kidneys have been attacked by chuck liddell. My urine hasnt changed colour at all im drinking lots of water and no salt on my food.
Summer is approaching, i was planning on taking dbols till june then running equipose, winny, nolvadex and clen to cut up for summer.

Im 25, 12 and a half stone 5'11

advise?

Arnold jr · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2006, 06:46:52 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 21, 2006, 01:17:35 PM

I know i should be taking test with pink stars but i get nasty water retention. I've been taking these for about 8 weeks 8 tabs a day 4 morning 4 before bed. After 2 weeks i got kidney pains so i stopped taking them for a few days, after that i was fine but 6 weeks later i feel like my kidneys have been attacked by chuck liddell. My urine hasnt changed colour at all im drinking lots of water and no salt on my food.
Summer is approaching, i was planning on taking dbols till june then running equipose, winny, nolvadex and clen to cut up for summer.

Im 25, 12 and a half stone 5'11

advise?

First and formost, go to a doc and get yourself checked out.
Second, it doesn't sound like you have a handle on the proper way to run AAS.
My advise, stop using, cut your loses and begin researching your ass off before you touch anything ever again. If you don't do this, then your health problems will be caused by your own lack of proper education.

DIVISION · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2006, 08:10:09 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 21, 2006, 01:17:35 PM

I know i should be taking test with pink stars but i get nasty water retention. I've been taking these for about 8 weeks 8 tabs a day 4 morning 4 before bed. After 2 weeks i got kidney pains so i stopped taking them for a few days, after that i was fine but 6 weeks later i feel like my kidneys have been attacked by chuck liddell. My urine hasnt changed colour at all im drinking lots of water and no salt on my food.
Summer is approaching, i was planning on taking dbols till june then running equipose, winny, nolvadex and clen to cut up for summer.

Im 25, 12 and a half stone 5'11

advise?

I gotta go with Arnold here...

Are you sure you know what you are doing?

You don't seem to have any direction or plan.

Some details would be nice.

DIV

WannaBHuge · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:42:04 PM »

I don't post often here but I had to emerge after reading this one... You have no business using anabolics of any kind. It appears, due to your stupidity, that you have possibly damaged yourself by ABUSING steroids. Fools like you give credibility to every know-nothing doctor and high school coach who stands up before Congress and touts the negative effects of gear (you know, organ damage, suicide, all the basic bullshit). I don't MOD this board and don't post here often, but if I did, I'd tell you to stay the hell out of a Steroid and Hardcore section... you are obviously not the latter and have no concept of the former.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2006, 10:31:26 PM »

Quote from: WannaBHuge on April 21, 2006, 09:42:04 PM

I don't post often here but I had to emerge after reading this one... You have no business using anabolics of any kind. It appears, due to your stupidity, that you have possibly damaged yourself by ABUSING steroids. Fools like you give credibility to every know-nothing doctor and high school coach who stands up before Congress and touts the negative effects of gear (you know, organ damage, suicide, all the basic bullshit). I don't MOD this board and don't post here often, but if I did, I'd tell you to stay the hell out of a Steroid and Hardcore section... you are obviously not the latter and have no concept of the former.

Nice post. I agree 100%.

blaster · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2006, 11:13:59 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 21, 2006, 01:17:35 PM

I know i should be taking test with pink stars but i get nasty water retention. I've been taking these for about 8 weeks 8 tabs a day 4 morning 4 before bed. After 2 weeks i got kidney pains so i stopped taking them for a few days, after that i was fine but 6 weeks later i feel like my kidneys have been attacked by chuck liddell. My urine hasnt changed colour at all im drinking lots of water and no salt on my food.
Summer is approaching, i was planning on taking dbols till june then running equipose, winny, nolvadex and clen to cut up for summer.

Im 25, 12 and a half stone 5'11

advise?

Advise?

Get off the orals. I got the same pain on a d-bol only cycle when I was starting out and too scared to jab.

smoothasf · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2006, 02:42:26 AM »

Noted. I ran a course last time of just deca and sus worked great though i got bloat faced. Havent taken anything for 2 years till now, thought d-bols would be enough to give me a little boost for summer.
I understand the comments of those who know their courses a hell of a lot better than i do, but, the only advise i get is from the guy selling it to me. (i know not the brightest).
If you were to start again and actually read through these threads as i have done for the last year you'll find no clear answer as everyone takes COMPLETELY different courses depending on what they want to acheive/ are told is good.

I'm not ignorant enough to think i know better than you lot and your probably right i shouldn't be taking them at all but thats why i ask your opinions.

thanks for feedback

shortfatugly · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2006, 03:50:32 AM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 21, 2006, 01:17:35 PM

I know i should be taking test with pink stars but i get nasty water retention. I've been taking these for about 8 weeks 8 tabs a day 4 morning 4 before bed. After 2 weeks i got kidney pains so i stopped taking them for a few days, after that i was fine but 6 weeks later i feel like my kidneys have been attacked by chuck liddell. My urine hasnt changed colour at all im drinking lots of water and no salt on my food.
Summer is approaching, i was planning on taking dbols till june then running equipose, winny, nolvadex and clen to cut up for summer.

Im 25, 12 and a half stone 5'11

advise?

8 Tabs a day?

How red did you get? Your face , forehead and neck especially?
How high did your blood pressure get?
How bad were your headaches? DId you take any pain killers or headache tabs to treat these?

Do not post " i didn't get red, didn't have any blood pressure problems or get any headaches!" as that would almost be impossible to believe.

Did you simply ignore these signs?

You stopped for a few days then jumped back on to the full 8 tabs per day? Even after the initial kidney pain?

the_doc · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2006, 07:37:35 AM »

Go to doctor and stop the drugs. 5'11" and 12 and1/2 stone? Unless you were very skinny before you do not need drugs to maintain or add to this bodyweight. You should aim for 13-14 stone natural then you can consider drugs to get that weight more refined.
good luck and play safe,
the Doc

DIVISION · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2006, 03:33:06 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 22, 2006, 02:42:26 AM

Noted. I ran a course last time of just deca and sus worked great though i got bloat faced. Havent taken anything for 2 years till now, thought d-bols would be enough to give me a little boost for summer.
I understand the comments of those who know their courses a hell of a lot better than i do, but, the only advise i get is from the guy selling it to me. (i know not the brightest).
If you were to start again and actually read through these threads as i have done for the last year you'll find no clear answer as everyone takes COMPLETELY different courses depending on what they want to acheive/ are told is good.

I'm not ignorant enough to think i know better than you lot and your probably right i shouldn't be taking them at all but thats why i ask your opinions.

thanks for feedback

Your whole thinking is flawed. "bloatface" from Test/Deca? That's unavoidable, even if you are using an AE or AI. "a boost for the summer" from D-bol? Is that a joke?

D-bol alone will only suppress you, bloat you, possibly raise your blood pressure.....among other things. Is that the "boost" you want?

As far as who to listen to on here? Alot of people have different opinions, but there are only two Moderators on here who regularly post. BigJohn and I. Listen to us if you don't trust the others. Regardless, you are going to have to use your own judgement on whatever you decide.

I just can't help but think that you shouldn't be using at all.

You don't have the background information required to keep from seriously fu.cking yourself up...

DIV

jpeso · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2006, 09:14:07 AM »

Quote from: WannaBHuge on April 21, 2006, 09:42:04 PM

I don't post often here but I had to emerge after reading this one... You have no business using anabolics of any kind. It appears, due to your stupidity, that you have possibly damaged yourself by ABUSING steroids. Fools like you give credibility to every know-nothing doctor and high school coach who stands up before Congress and touts the negative effects of gear (you know, organ damage, suicide, all the basic bullshit). I don't MOD this board and don't post here often, but if I did, I'd tell you to stay the hell out of a Steroid and Hardcore section... you are obviously not the latter and have no concept of the former.

Absolutely GREAT post !

blondmusclhunk · « **Reply #11 on:** April 24, 2006, 08:55:47 AM »

First of all taking any oral without an inectable ie: test is stupid. Why would you blindly follow what some guy tells you. Have you done any research on aa's yourself online or books? I suggest you stop and research first and read all the posts on here about cycles. Also do you know how to take orals. You need to divde them up evenly througout the day. 4 in the morning and 4 at night is wrong. How many mg's were the tabs? 5, 10? Go see a doctor and stop for quite awhile then start again when you know exactly how to do it correctly.

smoothasf · « **Reply #12 on:** April 24, 2006, 01:27:51 PM »

I've stopped taking them totally as you advise, thanks to those who gave me constructive critism. I went to the doctor and was actually a water infection, blood pressure is fine too.

Loomis · « **Reply #13 on:** April 24, 2006, 01:51:17 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 24, 2006, 01:27:51 PM

I've stopped taking them totally as you advise, thanks to those who gave me constructive critism. I went to the doctor and was actually a water infection, blood pressure is fine too.

Good to hear.

DIVISION · « **Reply #14 on:** April 24, 2006, 03:17:50 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 24, 2006, 01:27:51 PM

I've stopped taking them totally as you advise, thanks to those who gave me constructive critism. I went to the doctor and was actually a water infection, blood pressure is fine too.

Great.

DIV

Rimbaud · « **Reply #15 on:** April 24, 2006, 03:38:40 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 24, 2006, 01:27:51 PM

I've stopped taking them totally as you advise, thanks to those who gave me constructive critism. I went to the doctor and was actually a water infection, blood pressure is fine too.

Good for you.

Preinin974 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2006, 05:30:10 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 24, 2006, 01:27:51 PM

I've stopped taking them totally as you advise, thanks to those who gave me constructive critism. I went to the doctor and was actually a water infection, blood pressure is fine too.

Good for you. Nevertheless... 8 weeks on Dbol is too long, don't do this to your liver man.

davinci · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:18:08 PM »

good. now that you have stopped let your body recover, and during this recovery time search on this site and google aas, steroid cycles, pct (post cycle therapy), injection techniques etc etc etc. there is lots of stuff to this and the more you know the better planned and all around your cycles will go. you dont wanna end up with bitch tits or limp dick do you? just do your time in research then it will b that much better if you do decide to try again... you will then have a plan, and a plan for if something goes wrong and more importantly you will b able to tell if something is goin wrong

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:16:40 PM »

8 tabs of the pink d bol = 40 mgs / day..not much but adds up over 8 weeks..

i dont run any orals more than 4 weeks...

plus if its something like dbol..i would stuck to training days only ..timing depending on half life...

shortfatugly · « **Reply #19 on:** May 06, 2006, 05:06:48 PM »

Quote from: smoothasf on April 24, 2006, 01:27:51 PM

I've stopped taking them totally as you advise, thanks to those who gave me constructive critism. I went to the doctor and was actually a water infection, blood pressure is fine too.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=63289.0

another thread about dbol.

DIVISION · « **Reply #20 on:** May 07, 2006, 06:31:30 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAvenger! on May 01, 2006, 05:16:40 PM

8 tabs of the pink d bol = 40 mgs / day..not much but adds up over 8 weeks..

i dont run any orals more than 4 weeks...

plus if its something like dbol..i would stuck to training days only ..timing depending on half life...

Junaid,

40MG D-bol ED is not bad.....although I would limit it to four weeks.

I've run 17AA orals for ALOT longer than that without complications.

DIV

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #21 on:** May 08, 2006, 06:22:13 AM »

Quote from: DIVISION on May 07, 2006, 06:31:30 PM

Junaid,

40MG D-bol ED is not bad.....although I would limit it to four weeks.

I've run 17AA orals for ALOT longer than that without complications.

DIV

exactly..

most of the times i run orals only on workout days anyhow...

for example is someone were to do 50 mgs d.bol /day i'd rather do 100mgs on workout days...all times (according to half life) before training..and then skip days where i'm not training and just take extra glutamine and milk thiste to help the liver out...well that what i do...

DIVISION · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2006, 11:00:52 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAvenger! on May 08, 2006, 06:22:13 AM

exactly..

most of the times i run orals only on workout days anyhow...

for example is someone were to do 50 mgs d.bol /day i'd rather do 100mgs on workout days...all times (according to half life) before training..and then skip days where i'm not training and just take extra glutamine and milk thiste to help the liver out...well that what i do...

I agree with only taking 17AA orals on workout days, but it depends on the dossage and duration. I personally would never go 100MG D-bol, because it's too much for the liver to process.

DIV