Author Topic: Holyfield is making a comeback at 43! (Read 3134 times)

Oliver Klaushof · « **on:** August 19, 2006, 02:20:35 PM »

His first fight in years was on last night. It didn't seem like age has taken it's toll at all. He was fast as hell. Beat some jobber with a 21-11 record in the second round by ref stoppage. He plans on taking a top 10 guy next. He was injured before, and that's why he quit. He said age had nothing to do with it.

danielson · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2006, 02:22:31 PM »

He quit because the New jersey athletic commision took away his license for not being able to protect himself in the ring. Prior to last night, he had lost 5 of his last 6. And he fought an insurance salesman last night.

Scimowser · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2006, 02:38:58 PM »

the HW division is the worst it has ever been but Holyfield will still get battered to fuck by any top 10 fighter. Matt Skelton, Danny Williams, The fucking mutant world champion - these guys would have been used to wipe mike tysons arse 15 years ago but they are 3 of the top fighters in the world right now. I think Holyfield has had the last ounce of sense beaten out of him, hes been washed up since losing to Lennox the 2nd time. He will die in the ring if he continues to pursue the title

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2006, 02:43:24 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on August 19, 2006, 02:38:58 PM

the HW division is the worst it has ever been but Holyfield will still get battered to f**k by any top 10 fighter. Matt Skelton, Danny Williams, The fucking mutant world champion - these guys would have been used to wipe mike tysons arse 15 years ago but they are 3 of the top fighters in the world right now. I think Holyfield has had the last ounce of sense beaten out of him, hes been washed up since losing to Lennox the 2nd time. He will die in the ring if he continues to pursue the title

Do you know who the heavyweight title holders are now?

I know Toney holds one of the belts. That Russian freak is a champion too....

but of which orgs?

Scimowser · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2006, 02:45:20 PM »

i heard that all the belts are now owned by former soviet countries - ill google it out of curiosity

Scimowser · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2006, 02:49:32 PM »

Oleg Maskaev WBC Champ
WBA CHAMPION: Nicolay Valouev
IBF CHAMPION: Wladimir Klitschko
WBO CHAMPION: Sergey Lyakhovich

WORLD TOP 10

1. Sergei Lyakovich
2. Lamon Brewster
3. Wlad Klitschko
4. Chris Byrd
5. Matt Skelton
6. Oleg Maskaev
7. Calvin Brock
8. Hasim Rahman
9. James Toney
10. Nicolay Valuev

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2006, 02:51:55 PM »

Holy shit!

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2006, 03:05:03 PM »

Wladamir has a fight coming up against Shannon Briggs, I like Briggs chances in this one, he has had problems in the past against top level guys, but he does hit hard, and he did drop Lennox. He took some time off from pro-boxing and I think he even fought in K-1, and since then, he is back in boxing and is on an 11 fight KO streak. James Toney and Sam Peter are fighting on Sept. 2 and the winner gets a title shot also. (I don't know with who thought) Right now there is no true great American HW., Mesi looked good until his brain bleed and now he is just shit, Brock is undefeated and has potential but he is kind of a cautious fighter. Briggs will probably lose to Wlad, but he will probably drop old glass chin at least once in that fight. Toney is a damn good technician, he can take a punch, but his conditioning, punching power, and size aren't in his favor.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2006, 03:23:00 PM »

I like Holyfield, but I think his motivation for coming back is the fact that black guys no longer dominate the heavyweights. Toney was saying some racist stuff a while back but I don't remember the exact quote. Foreman was bitching about Ruskies coming over too. These guys are pissed off about it.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2006, 03:24:28 PM »

Wlad Klitschko, btw, is a good fighter. He battered Lewis. If it wasn't for that cut he would have knocked him out. Lewis is not a legend in my mind. He was never special.

Scimowser · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2006, 03:31:03 PM »

he never batterd Lewis. He may have been ahead on the scorecards but had he fought on for 2 more rounds his face would have been torn apart. He was in some state at the end of the fight, his face had to be sown back together. Lewis gassed for sure but Wlad was in serious trouble. UFC would have stopped it long before then .

Lewis wasnt as silky as the champions of old but he got the job done one way or another. Hes boxings Matt Linland

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2006, 04:18:03 PM »

I think you guys mean Vitali, Wlad never fought Glassjaw Lewis.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2006, 05:32:55 PM »

Yeah, that's who I meant. I heard the most common cause for cuts in boxing is the laces on the gloves. I don't know if this is true though. I do know Lewis was lucky Vitali was cut, because he was on wobbly knees.

legbreaker · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2006, 07:16:29 PM »

The end of the first round Evander looked sharp. Throwing good, solid punches with incredible accuracy and a lot of snap behind them.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2006, 09:38:51 PM »

Quote from: legbreaker on August 19, 2006, 07:16:29 PM

The end of the first round Evander looked sharp. Throwing good, solid punches with incredible accuracy and a lot of snap behind them.

Yeah, he didn't show any signs of age.

blinky · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2006, 12:50:54 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on August 19, 2006, 02:38:58 PM

the HW division is the worst it has ever been but Holyfield will still get battered to f**k by any top 10 fighter. Matt Skelton, Danny Williams, The fucking mutant world champion - these guys would have been used to wipe mike tysons arse 15 years ago but they are 3 of the top fighters in the world right now. I think Holyfield has had the last ounce of sense beaten out of him, hes been washed up since losing to Lennox the 2nd time. He will die in the ring if he continues to pursue the title

great post...says it all

blinky · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2006, 12:52:11 PM »

Quote from: legbreaker on August 19, 2006, 07:16:29 PM

The end of the first round Evander looked sharp. Throwing good, solid punches with incredible accuracy and a lot of snap behind them.

only reason he looked sharp was cause he faced some nobody

danielson · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2006, 12:54:46 PM »

Quote from: blinky on August 20, 2006, 12:52:11 PM

only reason he looked sharp was cause he faced some nobody

No, that guy is pretty good. At selling insurance

legbreaker · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2006, 01:38:31 PM »

I guess that depends on what you consider a nobody. He isn't a top ten fighter but has fought many....stood and banged with many fighters, has beaten other guys that also are professional fighters. I guess because I know how tough it is to box I give respect to pro fighters. To me a nobody is guys that never put on gloves and think they are tough guys NOT pro fighters. Did you see the fight? Regardless of his opponent Evander looked good and is aware and spoke about things he could have done better. Doubt the guy in the gym talking about how tough he is and walking around with his arms out to the side, don't doubt a four time world champion and one of the greatest boxers in the game ever.

texasRUSH · « **Reply #19 on:** August 21, 2006, 06:13:27 AM »

i personally think holy :-\field looked like shit....

legbreaker · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:11:57 AM »

If your comparing him to his fights against Bowe than he is a long way away, but he still looked good. That's the one thing about being great...when you fall just a bit, but still look better than most fighters people will say you look like sh--. If Ronnie comes in better than everyone else, but less than his average showing there will be people that say he looks like sh--. Critics!

ATHEIST · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2006, 04:26:35 PM »

the only fighters in the top ten that would give Evander trouble could possibly be James Toney and Sergei only becuse he is like 7' tall. although i believe A healthy Evander would beat James. His loss to Toney was with two really bad shoulders. and Evander did look good on friday, although yes the opponent wasnt top ten, however he want a tomato can, he fought some really good fighters. Evanders footwork looked much better than his last five or six fights, which has alot to do with his shoulder mobility.

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2006, 03:21:09 PM »

I wish TYSON would make a comeback he's younger then evander and if they took him off his medication that makes him a deginerate. Weve all said thru out this post the heavyweight division sucks donkey dick... I think if tyson came back and trained hard he could take the belt back no problem.... what yall think. and if not it still would be fun to be rooting for iron mike one last time. The man would still have the belt had all those problems and dumb mistakes hit him....