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Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« on: September 27, 2006, 10:35:59 PM »
Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions

Assuming everyone comes in decent shape, here are BIG SPECIAL ED'S Predictions.

1. Ronnie Coleman - Ronnie could lose to Jay if he comes in sloppy, but a 90% Coleman beats a 100% Cutler every time. No reigning Mr. Olympia has lost his title since "Pap" Samir Bannout forgot to suck up to someone back in 1984. Good thing Chick isn't a judge this year!
2. Jay Cutler - Jay has pretty much maxed out his body at this point. Great legs and slabs of muscle. Will never have Ronnie's arms, back, or diced glutes. Jay needs to bring that shredded conditioning we have seen in the past since his skin is thick and he lacks vascularity. If Jay sticks around, he has paid enough dues to be Mr. O from 2007-2011.
3. Dexter Jackson - Dexter has his flaws (high lats and zero calves) but he also has an extremly aesthetic build loaded with shredded muscle. In top shape, he can challenge Jay.
4. Gunter Schlierkamp - Do I think Gunter is a top 4 physique? Hells NO. But he gets that Arnold love from the judges and I can see that continuing this year. That's why AMI pays him the big bucks and those European judges love him.
5. Victor Martinez - Victor does not have a big frame and he has added about 30lbs of muscle to what I consider the best physique to have won the Nationals in the past 10 years. Though he is, as Judd Nelson observed, "pushing maximum density," in top condition (last seen at the 2003 NOC) he beats Dex hands down.
6. Gustavo Badell - I don't see the big deal with Gustavo. Sure, his arms are ridonkulous but he's too blocky (and cocky) for my taste. Apparently, based on the the last 2 years the judges don't agree with me. Another fave of the Euro judges seems to get the placings when it counts the most.
7. Branch Warren - A real fan favorite with the best tree trunks in the game, bar none. He's looking shredded to the bone and is thick as a brick. A topsy turvy version of Dennis James. Branch just doesn't have the upper body of a Mr. Olympia, but then again, neither did Tom Platz. Aesthetically, it ain't happening for Branch, but did I mention those LEGS???!!!
8. Dennis James - Monstrous upper body overshadows lower half. Muscles don't pop in arms extended poses. Thick and w-i-d-e as anyone here, Dennis is made for the relaxed round and suffers in the flexed comparisons. Unbeatable in the most muscular and very beatable in the front and rear double biceps. He would win the relaxed Mr. Olympia in my book.
9. Melvin Anthony - Has no weak bodyparts except for a sweettooth. Best taper and shape in this lineup. He has some structural issues (high chest, narrow clavicles) that can't be fixed and some conditioning issues (soft bottom blues) that have cost him in the past against the best. If he comes in with ripped glutes, he will break the top 6. If that ain't happenin', he will be battling it out with Branch and DJ for these spots. Melvin, drop the cookie and come out with your hands up!
10. Markus Ruhl - Markus placing 8 spots behind Cutler with more muscle and some better bodyparts doesn't seem right, but that's the way this German cookie crumples at the Olympia. It doesn't make sense to me either. If Ronnie, Dexter and Victor can all shoot the shit out of their non-existent calves, why do we hold Markus's triceps to a higher standard? I'd love to see Markus get some call-outs with Cutler and Coleman but that's not something the powers-that-be will allow.

Yeah, I know there are Mustafa lovers out there along with Troy Alves supporters, Darrem Charles believers, and Johnnie O. fanatics. None of these guys are in the same league as the above guys (assuming equal conditioning). Mustafa is too soft and blocky. Troy is too small without the wheels. Darrem has seen his best days. Johnnie O. is strictly 2nd tier material.

The only other person I consider as having a slight chance to crack the top 10 is Toney Freeman and I don't think he will get it done this year. Toney still has room to grow and hasn't shown he can beat any of the guys in this lineup. He has a great frame but will be exposed in this group.

Top to bottom, this is the strongest lineup in Mr. O history. Markus has been as high as 5th (in 2004). Melvin has been moving up from 11th to 9th to 7th in the last few years. And Victor finally cracked the top 6 last year. So something has to give. Should be interesting.

Ron, that's my prediction. Where's yours?

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2006, 12:05:53 AM »
Puttin yourself out there and givin a damn

way to go ed

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2006, 12:26:02 AM »
Jay tried to sue the IFBB, he will never win the Olympia. 

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2006, 12:55:10 AM »
i keep telling yall... monster storyline...  word since spring... dex steals second for not getting off at the demilia bus stop!

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2006, 01:13:40 AM »
I think Markus will fail again. And I hope Paco will be in 10th instead!

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2006, 01:33:52 AM »
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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2006, 02:42:00 AM »
i keep telling yall... monster storyline...  word since spring... dex steals second for not getting off at the demilia bus stop!

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That's what I'm thinking too...... :)
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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2006, 03:01:20 AM »
i keep telling yall... monster storyline...  word since spring... dex steals second for not getting off at the demilia bus stop!

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Perhaps.

But for that to happen, he would've had to come in looking real good.

Not all time best, but real good.

To me, he looks off, and it seems his waist has thickened.

They cannot give him 2nd if he should be placed in 5th or 6th place.

Perhaps they will bump him up a few placings, but never all the way up to 2nd.

I think he'll get 4th, based on how the pre-contest pics have looked.

Günter is my 3rd place finisher this year, although I feel he should beat both Cutler and Coleman.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2006, 03:12:13 AM »
Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions

Assuming everyone comes in decent shape, here are BIG SPECIAL ED'S Predictions.

1. Ronnie Coleman - Ronnie could lose to Jay if he comes in sloppy, but a 90% Coleman beats a 100% Cutler every time. No reigning Mr. Olympia has lost his title since "Pap" Samir Bannout forgot to suck up to someone back in 1984. Good thing Chick isn't a judge this year!
2. Jay Cutler - Jay has pretty much maxed out his body at this point. Great legs and slabs of muscle. Will never have Ronnie's arms, back, or diced glutes. Jay needs to bring that shredded conditioning we have seen in the past since his skin is thick and he lacks vascularity. If Jay sticks around, he has paid enough dues to be Mr. O from 2007-2011.
3. Dexter Jackson - Dexter has his flaws (high lats and zero calves) but he also has an extremly aesthetic build loaded with shredded muscle. In top shape, he can challenge Jay.
4. Gunter Schlierkamp - Do I think Gunter is a top 4 physique? Hells NO. But he gets that Arnold love from the judges and I can see that continuing this year. That's why AMI pays him the big bucks and those European judges love him.
5. Victor Martinez - Victor does not have a big frame and he has added about 30lbs of muscle to what I consider the best physique to have won the Nationals in the past 10 years. Though he is, as Judd Nelson observed, "pushing maximum density," in top condition (last seen at the 2003 NOC) he beats Dex hands down.
6. Gustavo Badell - I don't see the big deal with Gustavo. Sure, his arms are ridonkulous but he's too blocky (and cocky) for my taste. Apparently, based on the the last 2 years the judges don't agree with me. Another fave of the Euro judges seems to get the placings when it counts the most.
7. Branch Warren - A real fan favorite with the best tree trunks in the game, bar none. He's looking shredded to the bone and is thick as a brick. A topsy turvy version of Dennis James. Branch just doesn't have the upper body of a Mr. Olympia, but then again, neither did Tom Platz. Aesthetically, it ain't happening for Branch, but did I mention those LEGS???!!!
8. Dennis James - Monstrous upper body overshadows lower half. Muscles don't pop in arms extended poses. Thick and w-i-d-e as anyone here, Dennis is made for the relaxed round and suffers in the flexed comparisons. Unbeatable in the most muscular and very beatable in the front and rear double biceps. He would win the relaxed Mr. Olympia in my book.
9. Melvin Anthony - Has no weak bodyparts except for a sweettooth. Best taper and shape in this lineup. He has some structural issues (high chest, narrow clavicles) that can't be fixed and some conditioning issues (soft bottom blues) that have cost him in the past against the best. If he comes in with ripped glutes, he will break the top 6. If that ain't happenin', he will be battling it out with Branch and DJ for these spots. Melvin, drop the cookie and come out with your hands up!
10. Markus Ruhl - Markus placing 8 spots behind Cutler with more muscle and some better bodyparts doesn't seem right, but that's the way this German cookie crumples at the Olympia. It doesn't make sense to me either. If Ronnie, Dexter and Victor can all shoot the shit out of their non-existent calves, why do we hold Markus's triceps to a higher standard? I'd love to see Markus get some call-outs with Cutler and Coleman but that's not something the powers-that-be will allow.

Yeah, I know there are Mustafa lovers out there along with Troy Alves supporters, Darrem Charles believers, and Johnnie O. fanatics. None of these guys are in the same league as the above guys (assuming equal conditioning). Mustafa is too soft and blocky. Troy is too small without the wheels. Darrem has seen his best days. Johnnie O. is strictly 2nd tier material.

The only other person I consider as having a slight chance to crack the top 10 is Toney Freeman and I don't think he will get it done this year. Toney still has room to grow and hasn't shown he can beat any of the guys in this lineup. He has a great frame but will be exposed in this group.

Top to bottom, this is the strongest lineup in Mr. O history. Markus has been as high as 5th (in 2004). Melvin has been moving up from 11th to 9th to 7th in the last few years. And Victor finally cracked the top 6 last year. So something has to give. Should be interesting.

Ron, that's my prediction. Where's yours?

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2006, 03:29:18 AM »
Excellent prediction, would not be surprised if you get 100%.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2006, 04:54:59 AM »
Good work, as usual, Ed. Well written.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2006, 11:38:43 AM »
Great post!!

Dexter will not be third, but a lot lower. I think Ruhl will beat Schlierkamp and will be in the top six. Freeman will surprise everybody and place a in the top ten.
I don`t like the body of Warren and think he will place much lower. Victor Martinez has got a very good body and I hope he will place top three, but don`t think so. I would like to see Martinez become the next Mr. Olympia.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2006, 11:41:06 AM »
looks good ed.

i dont know about melvin.  never been impressed with him.  but he always seems to squeeze in the top 10.  i think toney freeman can knock him out of that.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2006, 12:08:15 PM »
Yknow... all this talk about Jay deserving a win.. I almost started to believe it, but then i popped in my 2004 BFTO and it reminded me how fucking MASSIVE Big Ron really is. Ronnies definately the most deserving O marathoner there is.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2006, 01:07:35 PM »

 Excellent POST, Special 'What? Me? Worry?' Ed!

 Very well written with tounge-in-cheek humor and cinematic references...I seen The Breakfast Club and Bruce Almighty in there...

 With all of Special' I'll show you mine if you show me yours' Eds' work...after the first sentence you are hooked and cannot stop reading until the end.

 Clearly the most talented writer here.

 Steve Blechman? Did you see this post? I'd rather read this insight here than the way Chad or Hany explains it anyday of the week.
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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2006, 02:40:17 PM »
Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions

Assuming everyone comes in decent shape, here are BIG SPECIAL ED'S Predictions.

1. Ronnie Coleman - Ronnie could lose to Jay if he comes in sloppy, but a 90% Coleman beats a 100% Cutler every time. No reigning Mr. Olympia has lost his title since "Pap" Samir Bannout forgot to suck up to someone back in 1984. Good thing Chick isn't a judge this year!
2. Jay Cutler - Jay has pretty much maxed out his body at this point. Great legs and slabs of muscle. Will never have Ronnie's arms, back, or diced glutes. Jay needs to bring that shredded conditioning we have seen in the past since his skin is thick and he lacks vascularity. If Jay sticks around, he has paid enough dues to be Mr. O from 2007-2011.
3. Dexter Jackson - Dexter has his flaws (high lats and zero calves) but he also has an extremly aesthetic build loaded with shredded muscle. In top shape, he can challenge Jay.
4. Gunter Schlierkamp - Do I think Gunter is a top 4 physique? Hells NO. But he gets that Arnold love from the judges and I can see that continuing this year. That's why AMI pays him the big bucks and those European judges love him.
5. Victor Martinez - Victor does not have a big frame and he has added about 30lbs of muscle to what I consider the best physique to have won the Nationals in the past 10 years. Though he is, as Judd Nelson observed, "pushing maximum density," in top condition (last seen at the 2003 NOC) he beats Dex hands down.
6. Gustavo Badell - I don't see the big deal with Gustavo. Sure, his arms are ridonkulous but he's too blocky (and cocky) for my taste. Apparently, based on the the last 2 years the judges don't agree with me. Another fave of the Euro judges seems to get the placings when it counts the most.
7. Branch Warren - A real fan favorite with the best tree trunks in the game, bar none. He's looking shredded to the bone and is thick as a brick. A topsy turvy version of Dennis James. Branch just doesn't have the upper body of a Mr. Olympia, but then again, neither did Tom Platz. Aesthetically, it ain't happening for Branch, but did I mention those LEGS???!!!
8. Dennis James - Monstrous upper body overshadows lower half. Muscles don't pop in arms extended poses. Thick and w-i-d-e as anyone here, Dennis is made for the relaxed round and suffers in the flexed comparisons. Unbeatable in the most muscular and very beatable in the front and rear double biceps. He would win the relaxed Mr. Olympia in my book.
9. Melvin Anthony - Has no weak bodyparts except for a sweettooth. Best taper and shape in this lineup. He has some structural issues (high chest, narrow clavicles) that can't be fixed and some conditioning issues (soft bottom blues) that have cost him in the past against the best. If he comes in with ripped glutes, he will break the top 6. If that ain't happenin', he will be battling it out with Branch and DJ for these spots. Melvin, drop the cookie and come out with your hands up!
10. Markus Ruhl - Markus placing 8 spots behind Cutler with more muscle and some better bodyparts doesn't seem right, but that's the way this German cookie crumples at the Olympia. It doesn't make sense to me either. If Ronnie, Dexter and Victor can all shoot the shit out of their non-existent calves, why do we hold Markus's triceps to a higher standard? I'd love to see Markus get some call-outs with Cutler and Coleman but that's not something the powers-that-be will allow.

Yeah, I know there are Mustafa lovers out there along with Troy Alves supporters, Darrem Charles believers, and Johnnie O. fanatics. None of these guys are in the same league as the above guys (assuming equal conditioning). Mustafa is too soft and blocky. Troy is too small without the wheels. Darrem has seen his best days. Johnnie O. is strictly 2nd tier material.

The only other person I consider as having a slight chance to crack the top 10 is Toney Freeman and I don't think he will get it done this year. Toney still has room to grow and hasn't shown he can beat any of the guys in this lineup. He has a great frame but will be exposed in this group.

Top to bottom, this is the strongest lineup in Mr. O history. Markus has been as high as 5th (in 2004). Melvin has been moving up from 11th to 9th to 7th in the last few years. And Victor finally cracked the top 6 last year. So something has to give. Should be interesting.

Ron, that's my prediction. Where's yours?

Special "Look Up My Nose...It Holds the Future" Ed


Very sensible , thoughtful and realistic, great post. Let me just add my 2 cents.
I think Jay is due, say him guest pose this summer, looked incredible in terms of overall additions is size and thickness.
I think Ronnie may come in too big and be off in terms of conditioning...who knows?
Dexter should be knockin' at the top sports and don't count Branch or Darrem Charles out of the top 5 THIS year.
Biggest and best "long shot" for a top 5 spot, X man Tony Freeman.
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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2006, 06:45:31 PM »
Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions

Assuming everyone comes in decent shape, here are BIG SPECIAL ED'S Predictions.

1. Ronnie Coleman - Ronnie could lose to Jay if he comes in sloppy, but a 90% Coleman beats a 100% Cutler every time. No reigning Mr. Olympia has lost his title since "Pap" Samir Bannout forgot to suck up to someone back in 1984. Good thing Chick isn't a judge this year!
2. Jay Cutler - Jay has pretty much maxed out his body at this point. Great legs and slabs of muscle. Will never have Ronnie's arms, back, or diced glutes. Jay needs to bring that shredded conditioning we have seen in the past since his skin is thick and he lacks vascularity. If Jay sticks around, he has paid enough dues to be Mr. O from 2007-2011.
3. Dexter Jackson - Dexter has his flaws (high lats and zero calves) but he also has an extremly aesthetic build loaded with shredded muscle. In top shape, he can challenge Jay.
4. Gunter Schlierkamp - Do I think Gunter is a top 4 physique? Hells NO. But he gets that Arnold love from the judges and I can see that continuing this year. That's why AMI pays him the big bucks and those European judges love him.
5. Victor Martinez - Victor does not have a big frame and he has added about 30lbs of muscle to what I consider the best physique to have won the Nationals in the past 10 years. Though he is, as Judd Nelson observed, "pushing maximum density," in top condition (last seen at the 2003 NOC) he beats Dex hands down.
6. Gustavo Badell - I don't see the big deal with Gustavo. Sure, his arms are ridonkulous but he's too blocky (and cocky) for my taste. Apparently, based on the the last 2 years the judges don't agree with me. Another fave of the Euro judges seems to get the placings when it counts the most.
7. Branch Warren - A real fan favorite with the best tree trunks in the game, bar none. He's looking shredded to the bone and is thick as a brick. A topsy turvy version of Dennis James. Branch just doesn't have the upper body of a Mr. Olympia, but then again, neither did Tom Platz. Aesthetically, it ain't happening for Branch, but did I mention those LEGS???!!!
8. Dennis James - Monstrous upper body overshadows lower half. Muscles don't pop in arms extended poses. Thick and w-i-d-e as anyone here, Dennis is made for the relaxed round and suffers in the flexed comparisons. Unbeatable in the most muscular and very beatable in the front and rear double biceps. He would win the relaxed Mr. Olympia in my book.
9. Melvin Anthony - Has no weak bodyparts except for a sweettooth. Best taper and shape in this lineup. He has some structural issues (high chest, narrow clavicles) that can't be fixed and some conditioning issues (soft bottom blues) that have cost him in the past against the best. If he comes in with ripped glutes, he will break the top 6. If that ain't happenin', he will be battling it out with Branch and DJ for these spots. Melvin, drop the cookie and come out with your hands up!
10. Markus Ruhl - Markus placing 8 spots behind Cutler with more muscle and some better bodyparts doesn't seem right, but that's the way this German cookie crumples at the Olympia. It doesn't make sense to me either. If Ronnie, Dexter and Victor can all shoot the shit out of their non-existent calves, why do we hold Markus's triceps to a higher standard? I'd love to see Markus get some call-outs with Cutler and Coleman but that's not something the powers-that-be will allow.

Yeah, I know there are Mustafa lovers out there along with Troy Alves supporters, Darrem Charles believers, and Johnnie O. fanatics. None of these guys are in the same league as the above guys (assuming equal conditioning). Mustafa is too soft and blocky. Troy is too small without the wheels. Darrem has seen his best days. Johnnie O. is strictly 2nd tier material.

The only other person I consider as having a slight chance to crack the top 10 is Toney Freeman and I don't think he will get it done this year. Toney still has room to grow and hasn't shown he can beat any of the guys in this lineup. He has a great frame but will be exposed in this group.

Top to bottom, this is the strongest lineup in Mr. O history. Markus has been as high as 5th (in 2004). Melvin has been moving up from 11th to 9th to 7th in the last few years. And Victor finally cracked the top 6 last year. So something has to give. Should be interesting.

Ron, that's my prediction. Where's yours?

Special "Look Up My Nose...It Holds the Future" Ed


Very well written and insightful. Nice to see a thread about the Olympia on here that has some quality to it. You should look into maybe writing for a bbing mag if you were ever interested.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2006, 10:46:21 AM »
Let no man say that Special Ed doesn't know his bodybuilding. I said if they come in good condition, and it looks like the only one way off is Gunter, which drops him down to 10th or 11th. Otherwise, I think I nailed the top 11. For those who missed it, my top 11 were:
1. Ronnie
2. Jay
3. Dexter
4. Gunter
5. Victor
6. Gustavo
7. Branch
8. Dennis
9. Melvin
10. Markus
11. Freeman

From the pics, it looks like Rockel is being robbed as usual. Otherwise, the top guys look pretty good. Melvin dropped the cookies and came in shredded, which Special Ed noted would get him a top 6 placing. So let's officially announce that Special Ed is the King Prognosticator of Getbig.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2006, 10:56:34 AM »
Victor will be third. Gunter is not in the top six and Gustavo is way off.
Melvin will beat Dennis, Branch and Gustavo.

I hope the top ten will be;

1. Cutler
2. Martinez
3. Coleman
4. Anthony
5. Jackson
6. Ruhl
7. James
8. Freeman
9. Badell
10. Rockel

I know it won`t be like this, but if the judges really look at the lines and proportions, this could be the outcome.

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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2006, 11:02:08 AM »
The buzz is that Cutler is leading going into tonight. How will they look tonight is the question.

It is looking like:
1. Cutler
2. Coleman
3. Jackson
4. Martinez
5. Anthony
6. Freeman



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Re: Special Ed's Olympia Preview and Predictions
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2006, 11:02:38 AM »
Victor will be third. Gunter is not in the top six and Gustavo is way off.
Melvin will beat Dennis, Branch and Gustavo.

I hope the top ten will be;

1. Cutler
2. Martinez
3. Coleman
4. Anthony
5. Jackson
6. Ruhl
7. James
8. Freeman
9. Badell
10. Rockel

I know it won`t be like this, but if the judges really look at the lines and proportions, this could be the outcome.

Agree with the first three. Vic looks best ever but the judges won't give it to him. Jay and Ronnie look worse than in 2005 but due to being vets, they will still be in the top 3. However, I don't believe either one brings on a winning physique this year. As for the rest on the list, I would place Toney a bit higher, definitely before Ruhl. He is looking good this year...