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« on: October 05, 2024, 04:53:19 AM »
  There's probably never been a bigger meathead than Tony Mandarich.
At 6'6" and 330lbs with 11% body fat, Mandarich absolutely crushed his NFL combine workout and got himself selected in the top 5 in the 1989 NFL draft- ahead of 1st ballot Hall of Famers Emmitt Smith & Deion Sanders.
On the field you would never know it, but on paper Mandarich was a monster who was faster than one of them and stronger than both of them.
Mandarich ran an official 4.65-second 40 yard dash time (which was faster than Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith),
- benched 225lbs x 39 (his max was 545lbs)
- had a 30” vertical leap
-broad jumped over 10'3"
If you don't know American football, those are insane numbers. Even today's best offensive tackles at that height and weight, like Ryan Hayes (6'6 298lbs) ran 5.18, & he although he hit 30", but didn't even attempt the bench. On the other end, Agree Vorhees stands 6'6" 310lbs, benched 225lbs 38x & had a vert of 29", but he's slow.
Comparing him against the WSM guys of that era, the 1989 WSM winner was 6'3" 330lb Jamie Reeves, who was much fatter and slower than Mandarich, but slightly stronger- he benched 601. Mandarich was about the same size & strength as Jon Pall, though, and if he'd gone into strongman they'd have had some titanic battles, with or without Kaz in the mix.
Rather than trying his hand at the mostly unpaid TV game show sport of WSM, Mandarich treated his body like a penny stock- he pumped up for the combine with the knowledge he'd bust once the drug testing in the NFL got him off the gear. Making matters worse, Mandarich stopped lifting twice a day, stopped eating 7 meals a day (totaling 12-15k calories), & dropped 40lbs, so he lost a ton of strength, and fizzled out as arguably the biggest draft bust of all time. He was one of rory L. guys
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2024, 07:11:13 AM »
Flutie wasn't bad at all.
Flutie had a pretty long career.That quarterback from LSU Jamarcus Russel I think I remember right was the first player drafted and signed a huge contract and then sucked so bad the damn league put in a salary cap for rookies.

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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2024, 08:08:22 AM »
Flutie had a pretty long career.That quarterback from LSU Jamarcus Russel I think I remember right was the first player drafted and signed a huge contract and then sucked so bad the damn league put in a salary cap for rookies.

Better than Newton but lazy and undiscipline. Could throw the ball 40 yrds sitting on his butt and probably 100 yrds if he step into the throw and got his weight behind it. Think he is a high school coach now or something.  Got about 30 million in guranteed money and of course blew it all.



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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2024, 08:14:33 AM »
Look closer at the Flutie picture

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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2024, 08:48:14 AM »
Look closer at the Flutie picture
                         The day Donald Trump's narcissism killed the USFL

Although the president is a constant critic of the NFL, he unintentionally helped the league during a hapless turn as a witness in a 1986 lawsuit


As its third season came toward a close, the United States Football League filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the NFL, claiming it had established a monopoly with respect to television broadcasting rights. The suit was led by Donald Trump, the New Jersey Generals owner who was convinced his league would win and, as a result, force a merger with the NFL. Held over 42 days in the United States District Court in Manhattan, it was one of the most eagerly anticipated trials in the history of modern sports. And the USFL seemed to have a good shot – until Trump stepped up …

The NFL’s lead attorney, Frank Rothman, utilized an approach that was the 180-degree opposite of [USFL attorney Harvey] Myerson’s. He didn’t beat people down. He didn’t scream, rant, snarl. A distinguished 59-year-old with broad shoulders and gray hair, Rothman was the former CEO of MGM/UA Entertainment, and he exuded a natural dignity. He sat back, let Myerson do his dance (as the entity that led the suit, the USFL was first to call witnesses), then meticulously went about making the NFL’s case that the USFL, by moving to fall, dug its own grave. “They had everything their way at the beginning,” Rothman said. “They had the jury they wanted. They hammered away at the Harvard [presentation]. Myerson was pitching the little guys versus the big guys. I would go back and tell the NFL people, ‘Listen, when we get our turn we can start turning this thing around. We have to be patient.’ But, actually, it didn’t take that long.”

John Elway, pictured here in 1999, turned down the Invaders in the USFL, and went on to win two NFL championships with the Broncos.
How John Elway rejected an offer from the league Donald Trump would ruin
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Beginning with the trial’s opening day, Rothman asked himself a single question: Who is my bad guy? He sought someone the jury would find difficult to believe and even harder to like. He sought someone with false bravado, with arrogance, with indifference. He didn’t want the jury to think about a sad little league going up against a powerful machine. No, he wanted the jury to see that the USFL, sympathy be damned, was its own Frankenstein. “The more I developed the strategy,” he said, “the more I wanted Donald Trump as my fall guy. I would call it Donald versus Goliath. I would make their scheme Donald’s plan, which it was. I would show that Donald Trump is not a little lightweight; he is one of the richest men in America . . . He was such a lousy witness for them, and a great one for us.”

“The way Myerson set it up was perfect for [Rothman],” said Ehrhart. “It was big, bad Donald Trump trying to screw the poor little NFL people, who had worked so hard to build their league up.”


Early in the proceedings, the USFL called Pete Rozelle, the NFL’s commissioner, to testify as the trial’s first witness. Over the course of five interminable days, Myerson hammered Rozelle, pounded Rozelle, grilled Rozelle. In particular, he focused on Trump’s claim that the NFL commissioner promised him a franchise should he abandon/damage the USFL. There was, both sides agreed, a meeting held between Trump and Rozelle at the Pierre Hotel in March 1984. What happened, however, was of dispute.  Oh I get it you didn't mean Flutie, you mean the guy who killed the USFL.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2024, 09:46:18 AM »
   


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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2024, 10:05:59 AM »
Ryan Leaf is in the top 3

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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2024, 10:17:04 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2024, 10:22:27 AM »
                         The day Donald Trump's narcissism killed the USFL

Although the president is a constant critic of the NFL, he unintentionally helped the league during a hapless turn as a witness in a 1986 lawsuit


As its third season came toward a close, the United States Football League filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the NFL, claiming it had established a monopoly with respect to television broadcasting rights. The suit was led by Donald Trump, the New Jersey Generals owner who was convinced his league would win and, as a result, force a merger with the NFL. Held over 42 days in the United States District Court in Manhattan, it was one of the most eagerly anticipated trials in the history of modern sports. And the USFL seemed to have a good shot – until Trump stepped up …

The NFL’s lead attorney, Frank Rothman, utilized an approach that was the 180-degree opposite of [USFL attorney Harvey] Myerson’s. He didn’t beat people down. He didn’t scream, rant, snarl. A distinguished 59-year-old with broad shoulders and gray hair, Rothman was the former CEO of MGM/UA Entertainment, and he exuded a natural dignity. He sat back, let Myerson do his dance (as the entity that led the suit, the USFL was first to call witnesses), then meticulously went about making the NFL’s case that the USFL, by moving to fall, dug its own grave. “They had everything their way at the beginning,” Rothman said. “They had the jury they wanted. They hammered away at the Harvard [presentation]. Myerson was pitching the little guys versus the big guys. I would go back and tell the NFL people, ‘Listen, when we get our turn we can start turning this thing around. We have to be patient.’ But, actually, it didn’t take that long.”

John Elway, pictured here in 1999, turned down the Invaders in the USFL, and went on to win two NFL championships with the Broncos.
How John Elway rejected an offer from the league Donald Trump would ruin
Read more
Beginning with the trial’s opening day, Rothman asked himself a single question: Who is my bad guy? He sought someone the jury would find difficult to believe and even harder to like. He sought someone with false bravado, with arrogance, with indifference. He didn’t want the jury to think about a sad little league going up against a powerful machine. No, he wanted the jury to see that the USFL, sympathy be damned, was its own Frankenstein. “The more I developed the strategy,” he said, “the more I wanted Donald Trump as my fall guy. I would call it Donald versus Goliath. I would make their scheme Donald’s plan, which it was. I would show that Donald Trump is not a little lightweight; he is one of the richest men in America . . . He was such a lousy witness for them, and a great one for us.”

“The way Myerson set it up was perfect for [Rothman],” said Ehrhart. “It was big, bad Donald Trump trying to screw the poor little NFL people, who had worked so hard to build their league up.”


Early in the proceedings, the USFL called Pete Rozelle, the NFL’s commissioner, to testify as the trial’s first witness. Over the course of five interminable days, Myerson hammered Rozelle, pounded Rozelle, grilled Rozelle. In particular, he focused on Trump’s claim that the NFL commissioner promised him a franchise should he abandon/damage the USFL. There was, both sides agreed, a meeting held between Trump and Rozelle at the Pierre Hotel in March 1984. What happened, however, was of dispute.  Oh I get it you didn't mean Flutie, you mean the guy who killed the USFL.



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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2024, 12:20:24 PM »
Flutie had a pretty long career.That quarterback from LSU Jamarcus Russel I think I remember right was the first player drafted and signed a huge contract and then sucked so bad the damn league put in a salary cap for rookies.

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2024, 12:39:33 PM »
Purple drank!
oh yeah he was hooked on that and it made him fat and lazy.Thanks for bringing that up I had forgot

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2024, 05:57:29 PM »
Ryan Leaf is in the top 3

  Reading the title to this thread Leaf is the first one that came to mind

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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2024, 12:31:04 AM »
Ryan Leaf is in the top 3
Yep, he was terrible and even had a bad time off the field for years after his NFL career was over.

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2024, 05:02:55 AM »
Yep, he was terrible and even had a bad time off the field for years after his NFL career was over.

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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2024, 01:05:06 AM »
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