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Mr. Intenseone

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It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« on: November 12, 2006, 08:37:50 PM »
I'm just going to wait and let the chips fall where they may, I just can't figure out if they are taking a step up or a step down with that other wackjob Howard Dean.....I say let em in...who cares now, they already blew their load for 08' anyway...LOL!!


WASHINGTON -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi, in line to become speaker of the House, stepped into a postelection power struggle among fellow Democrats on Sunday with a letter of support for Rep. Jack Murtha in the race to pick a majority leader.

"Your presence in the leadership of our party would add a knowledgeable and respected voice to our Democratic team," Pelosi, D-Calif., wrote Murtha. The Pennsylvania lawmaker is widely viewed as an underdog in a two-man race with Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer in this week's leadership elections.

Murtha issued a statement saying, "I am deeply gratified to receive the support of Speaker Pelosi, a tireless advocate for change and a true leader for our party and our country."

Hoyer has been second-ranking in the Democratic leadership behind Pelosi the past four years. He issued a statement saying he was confident he would win the race.


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  "Nancy told me some time ago that she would personally support Jack. I respect her decision as the two are very close," Hoyer's statement said.

Pelosi and Hoyer have long been rivals within the party caucus, while she and Murtha are allies of long standing.

Murtha, a former Marine who is respected for his knowledge of defense issues, gained national attention last year when he said U.S. troops should be withdrawn from Iraq.

Murtha announced last fall he intended to run for majority leader if Democrats won control of the House, a pre-election jab at Hoyer at a time the Marylander was pledging support for Pelosi.

Both Hoyer and Murtha traveled on behalf of Democratic candidates during the campaign. Hoyer's office said he visited 82 congressional districts and raised or contributed $8.2 million to the party's candidates in the months leading to the elections. No comparable figures were immediately available for Murtha's efforts.


 
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Since the election, Hoyer has released letters of support in the leadership race from senior Democrats as well as from more than half of the incoming lawmakers who won their seats last week.
In her letter, Pelosi began by noting that Murtha had requested her support. Noting his opposition to the war, she added, "Your leadership gave so many Americans, including respected military leaders, the encouragement to voice their own disapproval at a failed policy that weakens our military and makes stability in that region even more difficult to achieve."

One of Hoyer's supporters, Rep.-elect Baron Hill of Indiana, depicted Pelosi's letter as good news for the Maryland lawmaker. Hill said the letter was a statement of personal intent, adding, "She's not asking other members to vote for Murtha."


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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2006, 08:51:52 PM »
I say let em in...who cares now, they already blew their load for 08' anyway...LOL!!

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2006, 08:57:10 PM »
WTF Intenseone.... There is nothing in this story that is unexpected--AT ALL!!!!  THIS WAS ALL KNOWN AND EXPECTED EVEN PRE-ELECTION... THERE IS NOTHING STRANGE HERE.... What IS your bitch?

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2006, 08:58:58 PM »
He's anti-war.

Surprise, surprise, so are more than half of Americans.

An elected official listening to what the people want.  Is this a bad thing?

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2006, 09:01:22 PM »
He's anti-war.

Surprise, surprise, so are more than half of Americans.

An elected official listening to what the people want.  Is this a bad thing?

LOL.....Shit Rob, everyones anti-war, I'd say about 95% of us, but sometime it just has to be done as much as it sucks!

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2006, 09:06:53 PM »
LOL.....Shit Rob, everyones anti-war, I'd say about 95% of us, but sometime it just has to be done as much as it sucks!

careful ;)

Sadaam surrendered 24 hours before we started this war.  Did we still need to fight it?

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2006, 09:21:26 PM »
careful ;)

Sadaam surrendered 24 hours before we started this war.  Did we still need to fight it?

Bullshit....he had two years and 17 resolutions to comply and all of the sudden he surrenders 24hrs before we unload on him.......hey bud, it was too little too late, things were already in place......he was moving shit and hiding thing for two years!!

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2006, 09:34:05 PM »
Bullshit....he had two years and 17 resolutions to comply and all of the sudden he surrenders 24hrs before we unload on him.......hey bud, it was too little too late, things were already in place......he was moving shit and hiding thing for two years!!

He agreed to all facility searches.  The small points we were arguing about were searches of his private bedrooms and bathrooms (unlikely he keeps anthrax under his bed, but monster public humiliation of our camera turning his personal rooms inside and out)

The Iraqi envoy to the UN agreed to all of these searches, but the US didn't want to hear it.

I know it's easy to say "hey bud, it was too little too late, things were already in place".  But we had won.  We had achieved what our stated goals were.  To kill many iraqis and 2800 us troops because "hell, we're already here... we might as well start a 6-year war which will ciost us $2T.... Is that reasonable?

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2006, 09:45:04 PM »

The Iraqi envoy to the UN agreed to all of these searches, but the US didn't want to hear it.


 I vagely remember something like that, and if I remember correctly the UN kept cock blocking the US's every move and we had every reason to think they wouldn't do it again and again, the UN are a pretty much useless entity, you talking about putting out money for this was....shit, we fund (the US) 22% of the UN, I think it's time we withdrew from the UN not Iraq!!

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2006, 10:26:53 PM »
I vagely remember something like that, and if I remember correctly the UN kept cock blocking the US's every move and we had every reason to think they wouldn't do it again and again, the UN are a pretty much useless entity, you talking about putting out money for this was....shit, we fund (the US) 22% of the UN, I think it's time we withdrew from the UN not Iraq!!

The UN is worthless.  But they were right about a WMD Program.  Yes, there were some shit munitions that were abandoned in bunkers in 1986 that we dug up.  But for those 6 months, you didn't hear Rummy/Cheney/Condi/Bush on Meet the Press tlaking about 1986 munitions that we sold them.  No, we were convinced by them there was an active WMD program (which there wasn't, nor has it ever been proven).  Sadaam had a nuke program on paper which was halted by UN inspections but he was stopped and with the pressure we had a year before 9/11, it would never start again.

Bottom line - we started the Operation for Iraqi Liberation (OIL) on a technicality, to control their resources.

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2006, 10:31:48 PM »
LOL.....Shit Rob, everyones anti-war, I'd say about 95% of us, but sometime it just has to be done as much as it sucks!
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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 11:07:00 PM »
George Bush is not ANTI WAR. 9-11 was just an excuse...he would have found/invented a reason to go after Sadam...oh,wait...he did that anyway.

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Re: It's already starting...don't say I didn't tell you so!
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2006, 11:14:34 PM »
George Bush is not ANTI WAR. 9-11 was just an excuse...he would have found/invented a reason to go after Sadam...oh,wait...he did that anyway.

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