Mayweather

[Dredlock Rasta]

Can anyone beat him within 10 pounds of his weight class? I think not.

[*ChuteBoxe*]

If you are talking about 147lbs and up then the answer is YES he can beaten!  Margarito, De la hoya, Spinks,and Winky would all beat Floyd, Hell, even Hatton and Mosely have chances as well. 

[OKMike]

If you are talking about 147lbs and up then the answer is YES he can beaten!  Margarito, De la hoya, Spinks,and Winky would all beat Floyd, Hell, even Hatton and Mosely have chances as well. 

I usually agree with you, but I think you are waaaaaaaaaay off here.  PBF would be a favorite in any of those fights.

Margarito has beaten whom of note?
De la Hoya is older now and spending most of his time on the business end.
Spinks couldn't come close.
Winky has great defense but not much punch.  He would be too slow to decision him.
Hatton has neither the speed nor athleticism for him to win.  It would only be possible if he could lure him into a slugfest, which I highly doubt would happen.
Sugar Shane is past his prime and has been for a few years.

[*ChuteBoxe*]

I usually agree with you, but I think you are waaaaaaaaaay off here.  PBF would be a favorite in any of those fights.

Margarito has beaten whom of note?
De la Hoya is older now and spending most of his time on the business end.
Spinks couldn't come close.
Winky has great defense but not much punch.  He would be too slow to decision him.
Hatton has neither the speed nor athleticism for him to win.  It would only be possible if he could lure him into a slugfest, which I highly doubt would happen.
Sugar Shane is past his prime and has been for a few years.

I just hate Mayweather's cowardess as of late and unless he steps up and takes on all comers instead of the weakest title holders then he will never be the all time greatest like he claims to be.  Jose Luis Castillo beat him in their first fight, Hatton would smother him and outwrestle him in an ugly Ruiz style fight, Winky is too smart and to seasoned a fighter and would pose all kinds of problems for fraud gayweather, Margarito would be the same kind of threat Castillo was except a bigger guy with a higher punch output, Spinks has the handspeed and the footwork to hang with Floyd and possibly win a boring decision like he always does (just like he did to Zab in their first fight), Mosely has still has a little handspeed left though I agree he is not what he used to be, but Mayweather's fight with Zab shows what kind of problems handspeed can pose.  Floyd lost the first half of the fight due to Zab's quick hands, it's just a shame Zab has piss poor cardio.  Oscar has the has the handspeed, ring generalship, and punching power to beat Mayweather and if they fought I would bet on him.  Floyd thinks retiring after one more fight would make him the greatest of all time, not even close, he still has alot to prove.  I admit he's good, but ever since his fights with Castillo he's been picking his opponents real carefully, that's not something an all time great does.  When you look at his last eight fights he's fought 4 nobodies (Sosa,Corley,Brussels,N'dou), 2 has beens(Gatti,Mitchell), Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir, I still need more convincing.

[Dredlock Rasta]

I usually agree with you, but I think you are waaaaaaaaaay off here.  PBF would be a favorite in any of those fights.

Margarito has beaten whom of note?
De la Hoya is older now and spending most of his time on the business end.
Spinks couldn't come close.
Winky has great defense but not much punch.  He would be too slow to decision him.
Hatton has neither the speed nor athleticism for him to win.  It would only be possible if he could lure him into a slugfest, which I highly doubt would happen.
Sugar Shane is past his prime and has been for a few years.

Agreed. What about 20 pounds heavier? Jermain Taylor or Bernand Hopkins could take him

[Journeyman]

If you are talking about 147lbs and up then the answer is YES he can beaten!  Margarito, De la hoya, Spinks,and Winky would all beat Floyd, Hell, even Hatton and Mosely have chances as well. 

maybe winky and dela hoya spinks is a bum, hatton no way

[Journeyman]

I usually agree with you, but I think you are waaaaaaaaaay off here.  PBF would be a favorite in any of those fights.

Margarito has beaten whom of note?
De la Hoya is older now and spending most of his time on the business end.
Spinks couldn't come close.
Winky has great defense but not much punch.  He would be too slow to decision him.
Hatton has neither the speed nor athleticism for him to win.  It would only be possible if he could lure him into a slugfest, which I highly doubt would happen.
Sugar Shane is past his prime and has been for a few years.

 I argee

[Journeyman]

they all pick their opponents

[SinCitysmallGUY]

they all pick their opponents

That's the benefits of being the champ!!!!!!!!

[*ChuteBoxe*]

they all pick their opponents

Yeah, but unlike Mayweather, some fighters actually have the balls go after the toughest champion in the division.

[OKMike]

Agreed. What about 20 pounds heavier? Jermain Taylor or Bernand Hopkins could take him

Why would PBF want to fight fighters with a HUGE weight advantage?  He is already moving up a class (once again) to fight De la Hoya.  Remember he won his first belt at lightweight.  Taylor is saying that his next fight will be his last at 160 lbs. because it is getting too hard to make that weight.  Hopkins is eyeing a possible comeback at heavyweight.

[jarhead]

I used to work with Jermaine Taylor's grandfather and have spoken to Jermaine.  Great guy in person and exceptionally talented.

[student]

Why would PBF want to fight fighters with a HUGE weight advantage?  He is already moving up a class (once again) to fight De la Hoya.  Remember he won his first belt at lightweight.  Taylor is saying that his next fight will be his last at 160 lbs. because it is getting too hard to make that weight.  Hopkins is eyeing a possible comeback at heavyweight.

Mayweather won his first title at junior lightweight 130 pounds.  He was amazing a junior lightweight.  At welterweight he is not as fast , and doesnt throw many combos.  He has turned into a pot shot fighter that is content in only doing enough to win on points.  Floyd really isn't interested in much except getting paid.  De La Hoya is the best pay day for any fighter, so of course he is the fight mayweather wants.  Margarito would present a tougher fight.  Mayweather turned down eight million dollars to fight Margarito.  As far as who can beat Mayweather.     Margarito,  Mosely , Paul the punisher Williams looks like a savage............ 

[BEAST 8692]

Mayweather won his first title at junior lightweight 130 pounds.  He was amazing a junior lightweight.  At welterweight he is not as fast , and doesnt throw many combos.  He has turned into a pot shot fighter that is content in only doing enough to win on points.  Floyd really isn't interested in much except getting paid.  De La Hoya is the best pay day for any fighter, so of course he is the fight mayweather wants.  Margarito would present a tougher fight.  Mayweather turned down eight million dollars to fight Margarito.  As far as who can beat Mayweather.     Margarito,  Mosely , Paul the punisher Williams looks like a savage............ 

sorry, but EVERY pro fighter everywhere is and should be interested in the bottom line.

the business is about entertainment and selling fights, whether it's mma or boxing. if you get a fight with someone like dlh or tyson you've hit the big time. after that all you hope for is that it comes to fruition because then you get paid.

as george foreman said when asked why he returned to the ring at 45 yrs, "one reason. here i'll spell it for you, M O N E Y."

[*ChuteBoxe*]

Mayweather won his first title at junior lightweight 130 pounds.  He was amazing a junior lightweight.  At welterweight he is not as fast , and doesnt throw many combos.  He has turned into a pot shot fighter that is content in only doing enough to win on points.  Floyd really isn't interested in much except getting paid.  De La Hoya is the best pay day for any fighter, so of course he is the fight mayweather wants.  Margarito would present a tougher fight.  Mayweather turned down eight million dollars to fight Margarito.  As far as who can beat Mayweather.     Margarito,  Mosely , Paul the punisher Williams looks like a savage............ 

agreed-

[student]

sorry, but EVERY pro fighter everywhere is and should be interested in the bottom line.

the business is about entertainment and selling fights, whether it's mma or boxing. if you get a fight with someone like dlh or tyson you've hit the big time. after that all you hope for is that it comes to fruition because then you get paid.

as george foreman said when asked why he returned to the ring at 45 yrs, "one reason. here i'll spell it for you, M O N E Y."

Which is why I said mayweather is only interested in getting paid, I understand this and actually can't fault him for it ......   on the other hand he shouldn't be talking about building a legacy and being the greatest of all time when he hasn't challenged himself since castillo at lightweight.  He has stated several times that he is the greatest....  better than robinson, armstrong, duran, hagler, or anyone that has laced the gloves.....  Would robinson duck margarito?  Don't talk legacy if your only about the money.  And Keep Sugar Ray Robinson's name out of your mouth.

[BEAST 8692]

Which is why I said mayweather is only interested in getting paid, I understand this and actually can't fault him for it ......   on the other hand he shouldn't be talking about building a legacy and being the greatest of all time when he hasn't challenged himself since castillo at lightweight.  He has stated several times that he is the greatest....  better than robinson, armstrong, duran, hagler, or anyone that has laced the gloves.....  Would robinson duck margarito?  Don't talk legacy if your only about the money.  And Keep Sugar Ray Robinson's name out of your mouth.

i absolutely agree with you and it sucks, but pbf's style is to talk himself up and do that cocky showboating thing. hell, he does it between rounds.

there's no doubt he's one of the greatest p4p boxers of the last decade, but he's talking from his rectum showboating when he likens himself to the likes of robinson.

btw, in robinson's day robby wouldn't have got pittance if he DIDN'T fight those guys. the paying public weren't as easily fooled back then i guess.

[student]

i absolutely agree with you and it sucks, but pbf's style is to talk himself up and do that cocky showboating thing. hell, he does it between rounds.

there's no doubt he's one of the greatest p4p boxers of the last decade, but he's talking from his rectum showboating when he likens himself to the likes of robinson.

btw, in robinson's day robby wouldn't have got pittance if he DIDN'T fight those guys. the paying public weren't as easily fooled back then i guess.

Look what happened to Jones.   He spent 6 to 7 years feasting on mandatories and no hopers , calling himself the GOAT (greatest of all time) .  When he finally slowed down just a bit and didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on he got KTFO.  Now he is well past his prime and still trying to compete knowing that he let his best days slip away with nothing but disappointing mandatories.
Mayweather had half the arena leave during his last match against a no hoper (baldomir).  Mayweather sells no ppv's, does shit at the gate, and is not the fighter he was at 147, never mind 154.  Oscar could win this fight, and then Mayweather will get laughed out of top billing for a long time.

[BEAST 8692]

Look what happened to Jones.   He spent 6 to 7 years feasting on mandatories and no hopers , calling himself the GOAT (greatest of all time) .  When he finally slowed down just a bit and didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on he got KTFO.  Now he is well past his prime and still trying to compete knowing that he let his best days slip away with nothing but disappointing mandatories.
Mayweather had half the arena leave during his last match against a no hoper (baldomir).  Mayweather sells no ppv's, does shit at the gate, and is not the fighter he was at 147, never mind 154.  Oscar could win this fight, and then Mayweather will get laughed out of top billing for a long time.

i agree pbf is just pretending at 147lb. if hoya's got anything left he stands a damn good chance of taking it. he's obviously going to have to go right after pbf and he has the skills and strength to do it (unlike gatti), but how much speed has he got left?

this one will be a huge money spinner like the hopkins fight, but hoya's carrying the gate this time (at least hopkins had the undisputed mw title to sell. hoya's probably getting 70% or something ridiculous like that.

[student]

i agree pbf is just pretending at 147lb. if hoya's got anything left he stands a damn good chance of taking it. he's obviously going to have to go right after pbf and he has the skills and strength to do it (unlike gatti), but how much speed has he got left?

this one will be a huge money spinner like the hopkins fight, but hoya's carrying the gate this time (at least hopkins had the undisputed mw title to sell. hoya's probably getting 70% or something ridiculous like that.

If Mayweather gets 30% then Oscar is feeling generous. You best believe oscar is going to beat Mayweather at the negotiating table , before they step into the ring.......   There is also ppv percentages added to the purse to consider.  Oscar owns his own Promotional company "Golden Boy" promotions so he will make a fucking killing putting on this fight, plus Golden Boy might come out with options on Mayweathers next few fights, meaning win or lose Oscar will own Mayweather.