First cycle

[Paul2006]

Ok so i'm going to do a cycle for the first time with Deca + Sustanon.
Could anyone reccomend a cycle and will i need other things to take along with the gear to stop side effects etc?
Any help is appreciated!

[Arnold jr]

Lay out your plan first, then you'll get advise.

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Ok so i'm going to do a cycle for the first time with Deca + Sustanon.
Could anyone reccomend a cycle and will i need other things to take along with the gear to stop side effects etc?
Any help is appreciated!

bro first go and read all the threads at the top such as the newbie thread and the rules and all that... then come back and ask specific questions related to your goals and plans to achieve them. This is not because we are rude, but because it is mandatory that YOU have a good understanding of whats going on and you are not just doing what people are telling you

after you do this, please dont hesitate to ask for advice.... nilga

[DIVISION]

Ok so i'm going to do a cycle for the first time with Deca + Sustanon.
Could anyone reccomend a cycle and will i need other things to take along with the gear to stop side effects etc?
Any help is appreciated!

Do some research on your own, lazy bastard.

We're not here to spoonfeed you like a baby.


DIV

[Jr. Yates]

Do some research on your own, lazy bastard.

We're not here to spoonfeed you like a baby.


DIV

oh man the good o'l days of being spoon fed, I like the choo choo train personally.

[Luv2Hurt]

The reason they suggest doing your own research is because you are in this by yourself.  You need to know enough before you start to be able to have an idea on what is good and bad advice.  Just cause it's the internet steroid board does not mean you will always get good advice, sometimes it could be dangerous.  You have to know enough to be able to make some kind of informed decision for your personal safety.  You need to sift through info and compare opinions and use the best logical sense you can come up with.

Would you base jump with just a few opinions from a site board as your preparation?

[freakfestMD]

A first cycle (for those over aged 22 yrs):

Week 1-12: Sustanon 500mg per week (divided into 2 shots per week)
Week 1-10: Deca durabolin 250-300mg per week (divided into 2 shots per week)

The deca can be mixed with the sustanon, so you'd only be pinning twice a week.

Ancillaries:

Arimidex 0.5mg orally per day or 1mg eod throughout
hcg 300-500 IU every 5 days (subQ) throughout

Post-cycle therapy (PCT):

Nolvadex approx. 20mg per day for four weeks.





I believe this is what you were asking about. 

[DIVISION]

The reason they suggest doing your own research is because you are in this by yourself.  You need to know enough before you start to be able to have an idea on what is good and bad advice.  Just cause it's the internet steroid board does not mean you will always get good advice, sometimes it could be dangerous.  You have to know enough to be able to make some kind of informed decision for your personal safety.  You need to sift through info and compare opinions and use the best logical sense you can come up with.

Would you base jump with just a few opinions from a site board as your preparation?

Exactly.

The well informed approach is the only way.

If you aren't invested enough to find out some of this information on your own, then you aren't serious about it.


DIV

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Do some research on your own, lazy bastard.

We're not here to spoonfeed you like a baby.


DIV

laughing my fucking ass off

[smaul]

A first cycle (for those over aged 22 yrs):

Week 1-12: Sustanon 500mg per week (divided into 2 shots per week)
Week 1-10: Deca durabolin 250-300mg per week (divided into 2 shots per week)

The deca can be mixed with the sustanon, so you'd only be pinning twice a week.

Ancillaries:

Arimidex 0.5mg orally per day or 1mg eod throughout
hcg 300-500 IU every 5 days (subQ) throughout

Post-cycle therapy (PCT):

Nolvadex approx. 20mg per day for four weeks.





I believe this is what you were asking about. 

No test?  Thought everyone recomends test on a first cycle?

[SLYY]

No test?  Thought everyone recomends test on a first cycle?

LOL!  Wait....you are joking with this quote, correct??

[smaul]

 
Trade talk should be simplified for noobies

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Trade talk should be simplified for noobies

trade talk? you should be ejected for this one!! sust is the freakin test in the cycle you jackass

[ATOMIC]

ah I love all of this good banter. In smaul's defense I was confused about all of the different names at firs too. But I agree with div and the others. Yu don't know us and we don't know you. So YOU need to read everything FIRST and then come with questions. There is tons of good info on this board but you have to read everything with a grain of salt. The good stuff floats to the surface very quickly, ie the most important stuff.

[krazee]

No test?  Thought everyone recomends test on a first cycle?

Ummmm ya and sustanon is what? Hellooooooo Mcfly!!!!!!!

[Luolamies]

smaul!

You are correct. He should use test instead of sustanon and nandrolone (nt) instead of deca.

hahahaaa...

[udeluz]

I really don't see what the big deal is about laying out a "good" first cycle for a newbie

The bottom line is if he is ready to do it, then he is going to do it either the right way or the wrong way.

People that use AAS the wrong way is where all the bad influence on steroids comes from.


"Good First Newbie Cycle" (Over 23 years old)
1-4 weeks 50mg Dbol
1-12 weeks 500mg Test
1-12 Weeks 300mg Deca
PCT Nolva

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

I really don't see what the big deal is about laying out a "good" first cycle for a newbie

The bottom line is if he is ready to do it, then he is going to do it either the right way or the wrong way.

People that use AAS the wrong way is where all the bad influence on steroids comes from.


"Good First Newbie Cycle" (Over 23 years old)
1-4 weeks 50mg Dbol
1-12 weeks 500mg Test
1-12 Weeks 300mg Deca
PCT Nolva

the Deca always needs to be cut a couple weeks before the test ude-monger unless you want bad sexual side effects and lathargic training

[krazee]

Personally wouldn't even bother with the DBOL myself, and would put sustanon in as my Test.

[Rimbaud]

"Good First Newbie Cycle" (Over 23 years old)
1-4 weeks 50mg Dbol
1-12 weeks 500mg Test
1-12 Weeks 300mg Deca
PCT Nolva

If it's going to be his first cycle he could probably drop the Deca & just go with Test & Dbol (even though I hate Dbol).

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

If it's going to be his first cycle he could probably drop the Deca & just go with Test & Dbol (even though I hate Dbol).

d-bol supresses my appetite, makes my hair fall out, gives me back pain, and makes me lethargic therefore I no longer use it..... I think turanabol is a better choice, and can be just as effective at high doses as d-bol if not more effective

[Rimbaud]

d-bol supresses my appetite, makes my hair fall out, gives me back pain, and makes me lethargic therefore I no longer use it..... I think turanabol is a better choice, and can be just as effective at high doses as d-bol if not more effective

Tbol is the shit. I personally hate Dbol because it raises my BP too much.

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Tbol is the shit. I personally hate Dbol because it raises my BP too much.

oh yeah and it raises my blood pressure then it takes weeks for it to go down

[DIVISION]

the Deca always needs to be cut a couple weeks before the test ude-monger unless you want bad sexual side effects and lathargic training

I concur with Jonathan.

I think D-bol, due to it's high probability for estrogenic sides, is something everyone responds to differently.

Some kids grow on it with little incident of sides, others lose hair, gain fat, gyno, lethargy on it and it can ruin a cycle if that is the case.

I don't like D-bol.....doesn't work well for me.

Back to the topic, there is no safe cycle for a newbie other than Testosterone, IMO.

Your body knows testosterone.

It's not going to react badly to it.

When you start using other AAS, you open to the door to any number or reactions.



DIV