I remember in '95, I had just gotten seriously into bodybuilding, he was IT besides dorian. In 94, he won his first 3 pro shows in a row, since only one guy has done that, The Gift. Mike was probably one of the best bodybuilders ever, he was huge, shredded, had a phenomenal back and legs, great balance, no weak body parts, very nice guy etc. He used to work with jay's nutritionist, chris aceto. I think he had better genes than jay, but jay has had time that mike didn't. One of the greats for sure.