us bases in the oil region

[sandycoosworth]

some recent news

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntc65139.htm

Work on TAPI gas pipeline to be accelerated
26-11-06 Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, the four partners of a proposed $ 3.3 bn pipeline, have vowed to accelerate work on the four-nation project to bring natural gas from Turkmenistan to India.
The declaration was adopted in New Delhi at a two-day regional economic cooperation forum on Afghanistan, which was attended by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The partners of the so-called TAPI pipeline also committed to help Afghanistan become an energy bridge in the region. India's Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee appealed to member countries to resolve all disputes pertaining to the project so work can be complete on time.
"Work will be accelerated on the TAPI gas pipeline to develop a technically and commercially viable project," said the declaration.

The federal Indian Cabinet in its meeting May 19 gave its formal approval for India to join the pipeline though it had not formally been invited to become a part of the US- and Asian Development Bank-backed project. India also suggested that a working group on electricity, trade and energy development for TAPI be formed and the meeting of the group be held regularly so progress on the project can be monitored. The other three members of the project agreed to the suggestion.
"The pipeline project has the potential to meet natural gas requirements of the region contributing to stability in the South Asian region," said Jayanto Roychowdhury, a senior energy analyst.

India has asked Pakistan for transit facility as a part of the strategy for the development of Afghanistan. Initially, New Delhi expressed concern over the security of the pipeline, as half of it would pass through restive parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Following assurances from the member countries and the United States, however, India decided to join the joint venture.
"The US has also been pushing for the development of closer ties between Central Asia and South Asia and has supported the TAPI project as opposed to the Iran-Pakistan-India has pipeline," said Rangin Dadfar Sapanta, foreign minister of Afghanistan, who accompanied Karzai to the conference.

The ADB, the major sponsor of the project, allocated $ 1.5 mm to feasibility studies for the 790-mile pipeline. The feasibility study was completed in June 2003. Work on the project could not start, however, as there were doubts over its commercial feasibility. Those differences were resolved, however.
"India is all set to join the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan (TAP) gas pipeline project," said Dinsha Patel, junior Indian minister for petroleum and natural gas, who participated in two meetings of the steering committee of TAP before it became TAPI. "India, which is looking for alternative sources of gas, would participate in the TAP as a partner in the project."

Some of the issues that caused the delay such as finalizing amendments to the intergovernmental and framework agreements of the project were discussed thoroughly and thrashed out in the last meeting of the steering committee in September.
Although TAPI is not being considered as an alternative to the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline, it would be easier to implement as it has the support of ADB. In mid-February, TAP's steering committee gave India three months to submit a formal request to join the $ 3.3-bn project, a process made mandatory by the ADB.

TAPI is expected to transport 100 mm cmpd of gas, of which India's share is 60 mm cmpd. The Indian Cabinet authorized the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas to submit a formal request to join the project to the governments of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan, a process facilitated by the ADB. The proposed pipeline would stretch from the Turkmenistan/Afghanistan border in south-eastern Turkmenistan, to Multan, Pakistan, and be extended to India. The pipeline will carry natural gas from the Daulatabad Field in south-eastern Turkmenistan to India.
The prospects of the TAP gas pipeline came alive when India decided to join because the project was deemed unprofitable without Indian participation.

joker, the deal could only go through after the taliban was ejected ... and why was the taliban ejected... 911

anywho from the looks of the article 60% of the oil will suddenly be going to india .. wassup with that?

[a_joker10]

some recent news

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntc65139.htm

joker, the deal could only go through after the taliban was ejected ... and why was the taliban ejected... 911

anywho from the looks of the article 60% of the oil will suddenly be going to india .. wassup with that?

Thanks for the article.

The US does not want India to start to get Iranian oil and is looking at TAPI pipeline to replace it. This is stated in your article.
The IPI is going ahead anyway Iran has dropped the price on export shipments to India and it looks like Afghanistan will be frozen out.

The article I posted was from Feb. 8,2007.

The TAPI isn't even funded and they can't find backers by the way.

Regardless. There are many ways to get oil and gas out of the Caspian without using a pipeline in Afghanistan.

China has already found a way, and India has multiple ways including using the Chinese and Iranian pipelines.

Seems that the war was a waste if it was to control pipeline routes.

[240 is Back]

joker

why did we put a Unocal employee in as leader of afghanistan,

and why did you tell me i was wrong when i was right?

[a_joker10]

joker

why did we put a Unocal employee in as leader of afghanistan,

and why did you tell me i was wrong when i was right?

Your reason for 9-11 is wrong as is most of your thoughts of Afghanistan.
The pipeline, if it goes ahead will have no connection with Unocal.
So his link to the company is meaningless.

[240 is Back]

Your reason for 9-11 is wrong as is most of your thoughts of Afghanistan.
The pipeline, if it goes ahead will have no connection with Unocal.
So his link to the company is meaningless.

nope.  You said my info was 100% incorrect.  My info was the two men and their previous positions.

Kinda shitty of you to say that, when my info was correct.  I even looked the shit up in a book, and online to verify.  You're breaking my balls here.

[a_joker10]

Hahmed Karzai used to work for Unocal, the firm which was originally going to put in the pipeline.

The taleban dumped Unocal and chose another firm from Argentina, and we invaded them for 9/11.

Then, we coincidentally make a former Unocal employee their President. 

And, the president's special envoy to afghanistan who coordinated everything was PNAC writer zalmay Khalizad.

(Sorta like how bremer and wolfy were PNAC writers and managed everything in Iraq.)

The taliban didn't dump Unocal, the deal was contingent on Unocal money. In 2003 Unocal tried again to get the pipeline contract.

The comapny found it to be too risky and pulled out.

The part that is factually incorrect is that Unocal left the bargaining because of American air strikes in 1998.
3 years before 9/11 and a pipeline across Afghanistan still isn't being built.

By the way the map Sandy posted was wrong . The pipeline is to go through the western portion of Afghanistan, that is the heavy Pushtun area, with real close links to Pakistan and the Taliban. Canada is in the Forward base in Kandahar, not America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline

[240 is Back]

you're wrong.  6 weeks before 9/11, we were still trying to get that deal.  come on bro, read!!

August 2, 2001: US Official Secretly Meets Taliban Ambassador in Last Attempt to Secure Pipeline DealChristina Rocca, Director of Asian Affairs at the US State Department, secretly meets the Taliban ambassador in Islamabad, apparently in a last ditch attempt to secure a pipeline deal. Rocca was previously in charge of contacts with Islamic guerrilla groups at the CIA, and oversaw the delivery of Stinger missiles to Afghan mujahedeen in the 1980s. [Irish Times, 11/19/2001; Brisard and Dasquie, 2002, pp. 45; Salon, 2/8/2002]

[a_joker10]

you're wrong.  6 weeks before 9/11, we were still trying to get that deal.  come on bro, read!!

August 2, 2001: US Official Secretly Meets Taliban Ambassador in Last Attempt to Secure Pipeline DealChristina Rocca, Director of Asian Affairs at the US State Department, secretly meets the Taliban ambassador in Islamabad, apparently in a last ditch attempt to secure a pipeline deal. Rocca was previously in charge of contacts with Islamic guerrilla groups at the CIA, and oversaw the delivery of Stinger missiles to Afghan mujahedeen in the 1980s. [Irish Times, 11/19/2001; Brisard and Dasquie, 2002, pp. 45; Salon, 2/8/2002]

So where is the deal and the pipeline.

5 years later and everyone (India and Pakistan) has started to move on to something else. There has been no construction and Unocal wants nothing to do with the project.

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So where is the deal and the pipeline.

5 years later and everyone (India and Pakistan) has started to move on to something else. There has been no construction and Unocal wants nothing to do with the project.

We're not there for the oil, silly!

Why would the pipeline have anything to do with the US presence?