Author Topic: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes  (Read 1586 times)

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 64028
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« on: February 20, 2007, 07:40:04 AM »
Tuesday, Feb. 20, 2007 9:56 a.m. EST
Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday denied that her campaign traded money for an endorsement from one of South Carolina's most influential black politicians.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Clinton responded to questions about the consulting contract her campaign negotiated with state Sen. Darrell Jackson, who last week endorsed her candidacy rather than of top rivals John Edwards or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

"Senator Jackson was someone who was involved in my husband's campaigns. He was someone we turned to for political advice and counsel and I'm proud to have him on my team," Clinton told the AP.

Soon after the endorsement, Jackson acknowledged that his media consulting firm had negotiated a $10,000 per month contract with Clinton's campaign. Jackson has said he turned down more lucrative contracts from other candidates.

Although he backed Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, in the 2004 Democratic presidential primary, Jackson said he now supports Clinton because she has the best shot of winning the White House.

Mo Elleithee, a Clinton spokesman, said Friday that Jackson's firm will advise the campaign on "political matters in South Carolina, outreach, organizing issues" and purchasing advertising.

Jackson introduced Clinton when she spoke to more than 1,500 people gathered at Allen University, a historically black college in Columbia, where she lashed out at President Bush's troop buildup in Iraq, saying that Iraq needs to know "the blank check days are over."

On Monday evening, Clinton attended a tribute in Charleston to Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, a leading black member of Congress as No. 3 in the House leadership. African-Americans account for 49 percent of the state's Democratic primary vote.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/2/20/100044.shtml?s=ic

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 07:42:15 AM »
Did Hilary ever actually say "We're Not Buying Black Votes"?

Or was this just Newmax's interpretation?

tonyboloni

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 74
  • Leave the gun--take the cannolis
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 07:43:17 AM »
Do you think she is buying votes?  All polticians do this stuff, why is she being singled out?
Edward Bernays is a Demon

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 64028
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 07:44:51 AM »
I quoted the article, including the title, verbatim.  I also provided the link (like I always do).  

Here is another link with a different spin to the title of the story:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070219/ap_on_el_pr/clinton2008;_ylt=Au_5Io2z26WMeJ8c5J7fGrKs0NUE

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 07:50:25 AM »
i was just thinking there is NO way she'd be dumb enough to use a line like that.  I hate deceptive headlines when either side does it.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 64028
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 10:17:17 AM »
How is the line deceptive?  It's not a quote.  She was accused of attempting to buy black votes and came out and denied it. 

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 10:54:11 AM »
How is the line deceptive?  It's not a quote.  She was accused of attempting to buy black votes and came out and denied it. 

I'd feel it was shaky no matter what party was using it.

I'm sure there is someone out there who has accused Sen Clinton of hating puppies and turning kittens into slippers.  If her campaign denied these allegations and you saw the headline "Hilary Clinton: I do not hate puppies or make slippers out of baby kittens", do you feel this is an accurate quote?  And do you feel it is designed to elicit a less-than-favorable response to hilary in the reader?  Come on, you cannot deny the bias shown here.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 64028
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 11:04:33 AM »
I'd feel it was shaky no matter what party was using it.

I'm sure there is someone out there who has accused Sen Clinton of hating puppies and turning kittens into slippers.  If her campaign denied these allegations and you saw the headline "Hilary Clinton: I do not hate puppies or make slippers out of baby kittens", do you feel this is an accurate quote?  And do you feel it is designed to elicit a less-than-favorable response to hilary in the reader?  Come on, you cannot deny the bias shown here.

Yes it was a biased headline, but you called it "deceptive."  Those terms are not synonymous. 

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 11:16:05 AM »
Yes it was a biased headline, but you called it "deceptive."  Those terms are not synonymous. 

Well it is both actually.  Biased cause it makes hilary look like she's denying something bad using a terribly awkward quote.  Deceptive because usually when you see: Name: Sentence, that sentence is 99 times out of 100 a line spoken by that person.  The other time, it's a summary which can be skewed to make Name: look stupid.  Prison Planet does that shit too, and it irritates me when they infer meaning from a quote to make a person look slighty more evil than they actually are.

Tre

  • Expert
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16548
  • "What you don't have is a career."
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 11:50:36 AM »
Although he backed Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, in the 2004 Democratic presidential primary, Jackson said he now supports Clinton because she has the best shot of winning the White House.

This guy needs to wake up and smell the Starbucks.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 64028
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 11:54:02 AM »
Well it is both actually.  Biased cause it makes hilary look like she's denying something bad using a terribly awkward quote.  Deceptive because usually when you see: Name: Sentence, that sentence is 99 times out of 100 a line spoken by that person.  The other time, it's a summary which can be skewed to make Name: look stupid.  Prison Planet does that shit too, and it irritates me when they infer meaning from a quote to make a person look slighty more evil than they actually are.

Not really.  That's why they use quotation marks.  The signal to the reader that someone is being paraphrased is the absence of quotation marks.  In this story, there was nothing deceptive about the paraphrased headline.   

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 64028
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 11:55:00 AM »
This guy needs to wake up and smell the Starbucks.

Tell me about it.  She has the best chance of winning the Democrat nomination, but she is pretty much DOA in the general. 

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 11:58:11 AM »
Not really.  That's why they use quotation marks.  The signal to the reader that someone is being paraphrased is the absence of quotation marks.  In this story, there was nothing deceptive about the paraphrased headline.   

Well, aside from the fact it was biased.

ribonucleic

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5158
  • I bring you ultimate reality!
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 12:50:24 PM »
White House: Iran Attack Plans "Urban Myth"

Not really on point. I just felt like  spitting in that direction.

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: Hillary Clinton: We're Not Buying Black Votes
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 10:43:39 PM »
White House: Iran Attack Plans "Urban Myth"

You got your march 28 popcorn?

russian parliamentary officials don't lie.