To me its only a good deal if you get more out of the sups then what you spent. So if they are all BS products, They are a rip off for only $5 bucks. So I guess it is still to be determined if your $35 was a deal or not. If you get any gains, or if they get you off your A$$ and in the gym, they might be a deal. I however have never heard of these products. Optimum Nutrition ( cheap ), and Gaspari are some of the only products I take, that I feel I get value out of