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Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« on: April 10, 2007, 04:50:22 AM »
This is a must read, it is so funny, you will find that they say dieting is not good since "most" fatass Americans and English put on more weight because they stop dieting.  Non physical movement seems to be a staple in the general populations lives.  This is the kind of propoganda that keeps America, fat and content to be that way. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=447651&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 05:10:16 AM »
This is a fact. Most people who "diet" go on so called "Crash diets" and drop massive amounts of weight and then regain massive amounts of weight in short time spans. This is very dangerous. Also, many people who diet do so incorrectly. Generally by going on so called "fad diets" that are ineffective and nutritionally senseless which generally increase their cholesterol or decrease their intake of various nutrients.

Clearly "limiting calories" in a healthy way is not dangerous. However most people who do diet don't know how to correctly do it and often suffer health problems as a result.

Don't be so brash to label something "propaganda".

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 05:17:01 AM »
This is a must read, it is so funny, you will find that they say dieting is not good since "most" fatass Americans and English put on more weight because they stop dieting.  Non physical movement seems to be a staple in the general populations lives.  This is the kind of propoganda that keeps America, fat and content to be that way. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=447651&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
The info is pretty accurate. Dieting alone doesn't ensure that you will "stay" at the weight you you want to be at once you lost the excess fat. Basically all the dieting did is starve the body and now it's reacting by storing more in case it happens again.
And how does this propaganda keep America fat and content? If that were true, then why does that "dieting industry" make billions in the US? Reality is the majority of Americans are just physically lazy and don't workout.

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 05:57:41 AM »
Well, these kind of studies enable fat people to continue being fat.  You have to figure that when someone hears dieting can be hazordous, they will cease to try.  Keeping America fat, dumb and drugged will keep people obediant.
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 06:05:15 AM »
This is a fact. Most people who "diet" go on so called "Crash diets" and drop massive amounts of weight and then regain massive amounts of weight in short time spans. This is very dangerous. Also, many people who diet do so incorrectly. Generally by going on so called "fad diets" that are ineffective and nutritionally senseless which generally increase their cholesterol or decrease their intake of various nutrients.

Clearly "limiting calories" in a healthy way is not dangerous. However most people who do diet don't know how to correctly do it and often suffer health problems as a result.

Don't be so brash to label something "propaganda".


nothing wrong with crash diets. most people cannot complete the journey though. i would reccomend all non trainers do crash diets
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2007, 07:24:55 AM »
Part of the problem is that their expectations are too high!

some fat ass that is eating 2,000 calories above his daily requirements and does zero phycial activity. Expects a miracle in 30 days with minimal behavior change. They jump on some cabbage soup only diet for 3 weeks, lose about 15lbs (mostly water). Lacking the discipline to continue they eventually give up and return to their old habits. With the body being in a starved mode for 3 weeks it quickly rebounds with the greater intact of calories.

when just cleaning up their diet and doing some physical activity would yield better results.
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2007, 07:28:58 AM »
This is a fact. Most people who "diet" go on so called "Crash diets" and drop massive amounts of weight and then regain massive amounts of weight in short time spans. This is very dangerous. Also, many people who diet do so incorrectly. Generally by going on so called "fad diets" that are ineffective and nutritionally senseless which generally increase their cholesterol or decrease their intake of various nutrients.

Clearly "limiting calories" in a healthy way is not dangerous. However most people who do diet don't know how to correctly do it and often suffer health problems as a result.

Don't be so brash to label something "propaganda".
My friend, you are 100 percent correct.

The very people, here, who are on various limiting diets, all seem to share in that same fate as evidenced by many of their photographs.  They fail to realize the simplicity of caloric control and amount.  Instead, they choose unhealthy approaches that are severly limiting and above all, inefficient.

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 07:30:08 AM »
Part of the problem is that their expectations are too high!

some fat ass that is eating 2,000 calories above his daily requirements and does zero phycial activity. Expects a miracle in 30 days with minimal behavior change. They jump on some cabbage soup only diet for 3 weeks, lose about 15lbs (mostly water). Lacking the discipline to continue they eventually give up and return to their old habits. With the body being in a starved mode for 3 weeks it quickly rebounds with the greater intact of calories.

when just cleaning up their diet and doing some physical activity would yield better results.
No such thing as starvation mode. Total myth.

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 07:32:40 AM »
No such thing as starvation mode. Total myth.

I am not going to argue semantics here

I meant to say that "the radical decrease in calories they are mentally and physically unprepared for."
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 07:34:52 AM »
I am not going to argue semantics here

I meant to say that "the radical decrease in calories they are mentally and physically unprepared for."
Thats not the problem at all.

It is the dodo approaches they take, like the Palumbo Diet, which says you can`t eat a whole group of foods or Macronutrients.  They are severly limiting and impractical.  The decrease in calories is not really a factor.  Ask anyone who tries my approach.

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2007, 07:41:01 AM »
Thats not the problem at all.

It is the dodo approaches they take, like the Palumbo Diet, which says you can`t eat a whole group of foods or Macronutrients.  They are severly limiting and impractical.  The decrease in calories is not really a factor.  Ask anyone who tries my approach.

even you must concede that the people on your diet are motivated individuals. Motivation is a powerfull energy source

pluck some fatass out of the middle of no where and tell him to drop his cals to 1,800 and do 30 sets per body part..lets see how long he does it
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2007, 07:43:08 AM »
although tweeter looks like crap he has dieted down before and understands the sacrifice.

I would love to see you pluck some fat chick that does zero physically activity and is a couple hundred pounds over weight to work your "majic" on
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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2007, 08:03:22 AM »
Adonis, is it a myth that when you starve yourself your body thinks it is in 'winter' mode and actually begins to store fat. Does this explain the fat skinny phenomenon?

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2007, 08:06:12 AM »
I saw this couple on CNN with sanjay gupta...

the guy was 6'6", only 116 pounds.  The girl was something like 5'2", 80 pounds.  They ate like 1200 calories a day.  Since mice on calorie restricted diets live 35 to 40% longer, they figured it would work with people too.   While it might work, living that skinny woudln't be worth it.

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2007, 08:11:17 AM »
Adonis, is it a myth that when you starve yourself your body thinks it is in 'winter' mode and actually begins to store fat. Does this explain the fat skinny phenomenon?

Human Evolution has never incorporated a "winter mode" as humans do not hibernate.  Humans are from Africa and have survived Ice Ages, not because of the myth, "winter mode", but simply because of the efficiency of being omnivorous.

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Re: Scientists say dieting is harmful to Health!
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2007, 10:41:13 PM »

nothing wrong with crash diets. most people cannot complete the journey though. i would reccomend all non trainers do crash diets

They're not healthy, per the reasons explained in the study.