2nd cycle Test and eq

[IronMonkey69]

Hey guys, this is my 2nd cycle trying to get prepared for summer.

600mg test ent
300mg eq
winny tabs and dbol


pct
nolvadex
hcg


im planning on doing a 12 week cycle.

Im still pretty much a noob and fergot what i did on my 1st cycle. what do you guys think about this cycle for get cut and lean? and how much winny and dbol should i be taking daily and winny in the end or beginnin or all at once?

[Arnold jr]

wk 1-12 test-e 600mg/wk
wk 1-12 eq 300mg/wk
wk 7-12 winny 50mg/eod

*no dbol, and if you can get it, after 8wks of test-e, switch to prop...also add in an AI.

[IronMonkey69]

thanks for the advice arnold... but just curious to why no dbol ?

[HYDROLICS]

also, I would bump the EQ up to 400mg/week. Switching to prop after week 8 is debatable. I like the theory behind this but really did not ever notice much difference by the end of PCT doing it both ways. I guess it depends on many factors. user specific.

[Rimbaud]

wk 1-12 test-e 600mg/wk
wk 1-12 eq 300mg/wk
wk 7-12 winny 50mg/eod

*no dbol, and if you can get it, after 8wks of test-e, switch to prop...also add in an AI.

I like what Arnold says (or like Hydrolics said you could also bump the EQ up to 400). However, I would take the winny for two weeks longer.

[trab]

thanks for the advice arnold... but just curious to why no dbol ?

I like a bit of Dbol at start. If a guy is wanting raw mass, it makes for great workouts and strength gain.
It can hold water and all the rest. IMO most guys WAY overdo the dose on it. Unless your huge,
use like 30mg day max, split in 3 doses to get a boost for 2 weeks. The idea that less than 50mgs a day is for girls .

Is this your 1st time? If yes limit products. But making sure your stuff is good.

[Arnold jr]

thanks for the advice arnold... but just curious to why no dbol ?

You can use it at the front end of the cycle if you want to, but in your case I just don't see it as necessary. I'm not a huge fan of orals anyway, and to top it off, I personally hate dbol...bad sides for me.

Also, you said you were wanting to lean out and you can still lean out on dbol fairly well...there are guys out there that run dbol and deca in comp cycles and do well, but there are easier more efficient ways to do things IMO. Plus, dbol is going to make you hold a little extra water, and for some, especially those who haven't used/cycled much in the past, this can create a negative mental factor.

[IronMonkey69]

cool thanks alot guys youve been a big help. This is actually my 2nd cycle. i have a bunch of dbol thats why i wanna use it and i dont really get too much sides frm it except sexiness. lol