Critique this cycle ...

[nickbronco]

... 43 years old, 6 foot 2 inches, 215 lbs., approx 8% bodyfat. Experienced with several cycles.


Week 1-4, 7-10, 13-16 ... IGF-1 [11 mcg/day]
Week 1-2 ..................... Test Eth [800mg/wk]
Week 3-10 ................... Test Eth [1000mg/wk]
Week 1-10 ................... Deca [400mg/week]
Week 1-6 ..................... Dbol [30mg/day]
Week 1-10 ................... GH [3IU/day]
Week 11-16 ................. Tren A [225mg/week]
Week 1-10 .................. Proviron [25mg/day]
Week 1-16 .................. Arimidex [.25mg/day]
Week 1-16 .................. HCG [500IU/E5D]
Week 19 ................ Nolvadex [40mg/day] and Clomid [50mg/day]
Week 20 .................Nolvade x [30mg/day] and Clomid [50mg/day]
Week 21 .................Nolvade x [20mg/day] and Clomid [50mg/day]

[nickbronco]

I got so caught up in typing in everything correctly that I forgot to say thank you. Thanks for any feedback!

[Rimbaud]

Why are you stopping the Test after 10 weeks? You should take it for the full 16. Also just start out at 1000mg EW instead of 800 for the first two weeks & then bumping it up.

[nickbronco]

I got enough test to do that. I'll just adjust the Proviron, nolva, arimidex, HCG and PCT items to accommodate the additional 6 weeks. With how I am running the nolv, proviron, arimidex, HCG during the cycle ... you think Clomid is necessary? I am not fond of the sides it gives me. By the way, I am susceptible to gyno.

[Arnold jr]

What Rim said.

Also, if you can swing it, run the GH the entire time.

On the IGF, how did you come up with that number? Just curious.

Why are you running the provo the first 10wks and not the rest of the way through? I'm not a big advocate of the stuff, nothing wrong with it, I just don't use it...just wanted to know your reasoning.

If you are susceptible to gyno, you might up the adex dose a bit....but if this works then more power to you.

Clomid can be a usefull PCT drug, but a lot of guys do shy away from it because of the side effects some get. It is the one thing that gives me acne, on my back to be specific, but it does do its job. You may very well get by on just nolva but clomid is not going to hurt anything if you can take the sides. If you do go the nolva only route, I'd bump it up 1-2 wks longer.

[Rimbaud]

As Arnold said run the GH the whole time (if you can).

IMO - your PCT looks fine especially since you're prone to gyno. However, I would add another week to it (maybe two just to be on the safe side).

Clomid does have some weird sides. It gave me fucked up dreams.

[nickbronco]

The GH I mentioned is all I have on hand. I will try to get enough to run entire time, if I can afford. Damn stuff is $$$.

I read about the IGF dosage/length from Dave P. on MD. I have read a lot about it, but not used it. Wanted to give it a run. I will take any advice on this since I have not used it before.

Since I am going to increase the Test to 16 weeks, I will increase the proviron to 16 weeks also. I will bump up the adex to .5mg/day since this cycle is a long, strong duration.

I have clomid and will run it because of my susceptibility to gyno. I'll keep the clomid as mentioned...50mg/day at the end. Also I will bump the PCT up two more weeks to be safe. I had freaky-ass dreams the last time I used clomid also.

Thanks for all the advice! If there's more, please keep going! I feel better when guys like you review this. I respect your experience and advice. Thanks again.

[Arnold jr]

The GH I mentioned is all I have on hand. I will try to get enough to run entire time, if I can afford. Damn stuff is $$$.

Yep, cost a fortune, but there are a few decent deals out there.

I read about the IGF dosage/length from Dave P. on MD. I have read a lot about it, but not used it. Wanted to give it a run. I will take any advice on this since I have not used it before.

What I was wondering was about the dose of 11mcg. I'm familiar with Dave's protocol on IGF, but I've never seen or heard him say 11mcg/ed...just curios as to how you cam up with this dose.
Also, on his IGF stuff, it's typically 4wk on/4wk off. So in your cycle it would look like this:

wk 1-4
wk 9-12
wk 17-20

Since I am going to increase the Test to 16 weeks, I will increase the proviron to 16 weeks also. I will bump up the adex to .5mg/day since this cycle is a long, strong duration.

I have clomid and will run it because of my susceptibility to gyno. I'll keep the clomid as mentioned...50mg/day at the end. Also I will bump the PCT up two more weeks to be safe. I had freaky-ass dreams the last time I used clomid also.

Thanks for all the advice! If there's more, please keep going! I feel better when guys like you review this. I respect your experience and advice. Thanks again.

Run the PCT for 5wks, this is fine, but the last 2 just use nolva.

[Rimbaud]

Since I am going to increase the Test to 16 weeks, I will increase the proviron to 16 weeks also. I will bump up the adex to .5mg/day since this cycle is a long, strong duration.

You may want to experiment with the Adex doseage. I only say this because I'm a firm believer in not taking any more then you need (of anything). I would personally start with 0.5mg EOD & then work your way up as needed.

[nickbronco]

Thanks for all the advice. I will adjust my cycle as you all recommended.

The IGF dosage came from the story on ULTIMATE MASS (in Chemical Enhancement) from the MD web site. It's about diet, but if you read (or scroll) all the way down to the end, there is a recommended cycle there. That is where I read about the dosage for IGF-1. Most everything I have read about it, says to do the 4 week ON, 4 week OFF schedule as Arnold Jr. mentioned. Do you think the 11mcg/day is sufficient? Is it OK I mentioned where I read this? Definitely don't want to break any Get Big rules. I read this forum everyday, learning more and more as I go. Thank you again for all the knowledge.