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Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« on: August 06, 2007, 12:33:59 PM »
I started using 1.25mg/day of letro about 3 weeks ago, and the last 2 weeks I havent gained any weight at all.  I gained 14lbs my first month on cycle and had been going great, then when I started using letro it seems like ive come to a complete stop.  I suspect I am losing fluids and gaining muscle at the same time, which would lead to no weight increase but I could be wrong.  So im asking with my estrogen supressed completely, will that cause me to not gain any more muscle?

I have been thinking of upping the letrozole to 2.5mg/day in an attempt to get rid of this little bit of gyno ive had since puberty, but if its stopping me from gaining muscle I will just discontinue it all together as the gyno isnt noticible at all hardly.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 01:24:17 PM »
i dont see how it would stop gains.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 01:28:56 PM »
i have heard of slowing gains, but never stopping gains. I prefer letro as my ai. It gets me dry dry dry. I have grown on it even when cutting
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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 06:01:38 AM »
Of course it will stop "weight" gains by wiping out estrogen.

you need "some" estrogen. eliminating estrogen is only good for gyno problems or drying out for a contest.

This is why i never run it. i keep adex on hand but everytime i use it my gains halt within 2 weeks.

due some research on how estrogen reacts in our body and you will see that when taking AAS you actually want estrogen for gains.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 07:48:48 PM »
a friend recently told me that letro only works for gyno recently caused by aas use, and wont reverse slight gyno caused by puberty.  Anyone know the truth about that?

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2007, 05:33:13 PM »
Of course it will stop "weight" gains by wiping out estrogen.

you need "some" estrogen. eliminating estrogen is only good for gyno problems or drying out for a contest.

This is why i never run it. i keep adex on hand but everytime i use it my gains halt within 2 weeks.

due some research on how estrogen reacts in our body and you will see that when taking AAS you actually want estrogen for gains.

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Agree probally would make best gains with no estrogen control.  But it wont be pretty.  :-\

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007, 06:22:00 AM »
Agree probally would make best gains with no estrogen control.  But it wont be pretty.  :-\

You talking about bloat?

i agree but i train for maximum strength gains so i consider gains in strength more important than if i'm holding some water.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007, 08:45:41 AM »
i dont see how it would stop gains.


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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007, 09:50:19 AM »
it's funny, even on 1000mg of test E a week i never get bloated. i still have spider web viens in my forearms, quads, shoulders and calves. i've never had a sore nipple and never had ANY estrogen related issues. BP is always perfect but i eat very clean.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007, 10:09:29 AM »
it's funny, even on 1000mg of test E a week i never get bloated. i still have spider web viens in my forearms, quads, shoulders and calves. i've never had a sore nipple and never had ANY estrogen related issues. BP is always perfect but i eat very clean.

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That is rare!  I'd still keep Ai's on hand. our Body chem gets thrown out of whack every now and then.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007, 10:32:35 AM »
it's funny, even on 1000mg of test E a week i never get bloated. i still have spider web viens in my forearms, quads, shoulders and calves. i've never had a sore nipple and never had ANY estrogen related issues. BP is always perfect but i eat very clean.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2007, 11:31:32 AM »
That is rare!  I'd still keep Ai's on hand. our Body chem gets thrown out of whack every now and then.

I have just about everything on hand... ;)

Thanks Rim, i know my body through and through. i chart and record everything i take, inject, blood work, diet, cardio, weights and then i compare how my body responds to certain protocols...everything is documented and if i have a question i research the how and why. plus i know several world class powerlifters and top level amateur bodybuilders. i have alot of knowledge at my finger tips to say the least.

I'm very scientific by nature so i consider myself a chemical enhancement project with health being my main concern. I'm systematic about everything in life and it's helped me be more successful.

in the end i hope to release all this information to the public to help destroy many myths about steroids and other drugs. i have a doctor working with me and he knows everything i'm doing.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2007, 11:33:08 AM »
I have just about everything on hand... ;)

Thanks Rim, i know my body through and through. i chart and record everything i take, inject, blood work, diet, cardio, weights and then i compare how my body responds to certain protocols...everything is documented and if i have a question i research the how and why. plus i know several world class powerlifters and top level amateur bodybuilders. i have alot of knowledge at my finger tips to say the least.

I'm very scientific by nature so i consider myself a chemical enhancement project with health being my main concern. I'm systematic about everything in life and it's helped me be more successful.

in the end i hope to release all this information to the public to help destroy many myths about steroids and other drugs. i have a doctor working with me and he knows everything i'm doing.

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Very nice. You're doing what a lot of people refuse to do.

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2007, 11:42:10 AM »
Very nice. You're doing what a lot of people refuse to do.

That's why i'm doing it!  ;D


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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2007, 11:57:27 AM »
That's why i'm doing it!  ;D


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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2007, 07:23:42 PM »
You talking about bloat?

i agree but i train for maximum strength gains so i consider gains in strength more important than if i'm holding some water.

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Well im talking about estrogenic sides such as water and fat retention.  I guess that is a type of bloat?

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Re: Opinions on letrozole stopping muscle gains?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2007, 09:05:27 AM »
Well im talking about estrogenic sides such as water and fat retention.  I guess that is a type of bloat?

Water retention is a good thing in my opinion, as long as your BP is good.

Ive never had a problem with fat retention, i guess i eat clean enough and do enough cardio to prevent that problem. i've never lost sight of my abs during any cycle, even on 1000mg test and 400mg deca i had a 6 pack and was eating 4k calories a day.

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