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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2007, 12:59:15 PM »



I understand your point of view. I don't agree with animal abuse, but Michael Vick deserve a secongd chance. We have murderers and child molesters on the loose everywhere, and killing a couple of fcuking dogs is considered the same thing. I don't get it
All animals should be treated equally, humans included.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2007, 01:01:11 PM »
I think he should pay a 7 figure fine, do a couple of months inside and 6-7months of community service at the SPCA. Suspended for a year from the NFL with suspended pay and return his signon bonus. 
Thats strange.  I was under the impression that you worked from home...Where do you work?

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2007, 01:03:02 PM »
Thats strange.  I was under the impression that you worked from home...Where do you work?

Maybe you should wikipedia "VPN",  "WikiDudeman".

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2007, 01:03:10 PM »
All animals should be treated equally, humans included.

so, I take it you are a vegetarian?

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2007, 01:11:33 PM »



I understand your point of view. I don't agree with animal abuse, but Michael Vick deserve a secongd chance. We have murderers and child molesters on the loose everywhere, and killing a couple of fcuking dogs is considered the same thing. I don't get it

and noone's saying those weirdos should not be in prison too! 
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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2007, 01:14:40 PM »
explain to me how they are "protected"

Protected from personal accountability, this is no secret. By their spokespeople and the ACLU.

Bill Cosby (and like-minded blacks) are "Uncle-Tom"ed for acknowledging this:

http://www.projectappleseed.org/cosby.html





  

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2007, 01:28:11 PM »
Protected from personal accountability, this is no secret. By their spokespeople and the ACLU.

Bill Cosby (and like-minded blacks) are "Uncle-Tom"ed for acknowledging this:

http://www.projectappleseed.org/cosby.html





 

I see what you are saying

I agree that leadership in the African American community should provide more actual leadership rather than apologies for misconduct- more encouragement for responsibility

On a side note, I find it disheartening to discuss classifications like race so much. When it comes right down to it, we are all individuals. I've always tried to give everybody a fair chance when I meet them and if you sincerely treat people with respect, you usually receive it back.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2007, 01:39:50 PM »
I mean, it's not like there are very many black people at major universities or at the head of major corporations

it's not like police turn a blind to crime in the black community

1) Education? Lower standards produce less-qualified individuals. Would a major corporation allow (an assumed) distaste for blacks eclipse its (proven) love of money?

2) No, but how often does an innocent officer have to defend himself against alleged "racism" charges? And this is a black community that mostly white officers serve and protect.






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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2007, 01:56:31 PM »

2) No, but how often does an innocent officer have to defend himself against alleged "racism" charges? And this is a black community that mostly white officers serve and protect.







baseless claims undoubtedly have been made, but it is also very true that many major police departments have been caught engaging in some very discriminatory behavior- such as planting evidence, physically abusing suspects during interrogation, and blatant profiling- the Chicago PD and the LAPD have been particularly guilty of such acts

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2007, 01:59:48 PM »
1) Education? Lower standards produce less-qualified individuals. Would a major corporation allow (an assumed) distaste for blacks eclipse its (proven) love of money?

2) No, but how often does an innocent officer have to defend himself against alleged "racism" charges? And this is a black community that mostly white officers serve and protect.


While blacks arent heading fortune 500 companies in droves, opportunistic race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson try to shake down every non black owned coporation they can to push for racial quotas in upper management and elsewhere. This practice of racial McCarthyism ( calling anyone and everyone a racist to detract from the truth) causes many organizations to fold under pressure to avoid bad press. As a result underqualified  black individuals recieve promotions in droves while qualified whites and asians are largely pushed to the side. This pathetic practice also takes place at our nations Universities ( even though there are more than 10 national BLACK universities), graduate schools and in various levels of government.

When any black person does something wrong and it makes national news regardless of the evidence they immediately scream racism or call for leinancy. The result is more racism, no real change for the better and black people who are intelligent, qualified and self sufficent are bunched in with criminals, morons and other assorted members of the VOCAL black community.





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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2007, 02:00:52 PM »
How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?

I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?

I agree when people are found "guilty"... so I would have to take Kobe off the list.

To your point though... I agree... You or I would have an almost impossible time finding a decent job if we were convicted of some of these crimes, but athletes always get a pass... It's just damn disgusting.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2007, 02:03:23 PM »
On a side note, I find it disheartening to discuss classifications like race so much.

BLACKS INSIST ON IT! Affirmative action, lower ed. standards, the way too accessible race card, etc. - these SCREAM, "Notice my blackness!"

When Jesse and Al way in on Vick (if they haven't yet), THEN let's talk about who classifies by race.

It's simple. This is an ignorant millionaire thug accused of torturing pets. That is all. A martian comes down, he also learns Vick is black. Why?      

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2007, 02:29:30 PM »
BLACKS INSIST ON IT! Affirmative action, lower ed. standards, the way too accessible race card, etc. - these SCREAM, "Notice my blackness!"

When Jesse and Al way in on Vick (if they haven't yet), THEN let's talk about who classifies by race.

It's simple. This is an ignorant millionaire thug accused of torturing pets. That is all. A martian comes down, he also learns Vick is black. Why?       

I agree

I don't like talking about classifications, no matter who tries to do it (blacks, whites, latins, asians, etc)

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2007, 02:38:11 PM »
Nope.

Very good racers and some retired.  Rescue implies there was danger or harm.  There is none here. This is a racing Kennel in which I do evening turnout as a volunteer.    The dogs are all treated like kings, full air-conditoning, the whole works.  Nicer than most people will EVER treat their dog.  Petsmart accrues more injuries than all proper racing kennels combined.

Here are my two.  Darwin and Tesla.


Did you name your dog to Niikola Tesla?

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2007, 02:50:53 PM »
They're black. They're the protected race of America.

If you don't think 10% of the population commiting 70% of the crimes is a big deal, then you are ignoring hurtful things to society as a whole.

It's funny to me how so many people take offense with certain people, yet ignore the problems with the whole hip-hop nonsense. It's reverse racism at it's finest and I'm sure a lot of Americans are fucking sick of it.

Another ignorant post by Camel Jockey. The problems with the whole hiphop nonsense? What are you talking about? Protected race of America? Haha Are you kidding me? Blacks have been treated poorly for hundreds of years by white people. Go take history 101 at your cheap college. I will even pay for it.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2007, 02:54:54 PM »
Okay back to the topic. How can that Tenn woman that killed her preacher husband only get a couple of months and vick may get more than a year? She shot him while he was laying in bed. I think it was a shotgun to the back. I see why people in other countries hate United States.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2007, 03:16:05 PM »
Okay back to the topic. How can that Tenn woman that killed her preacher husband only get a couple of months and vick may get more than a year? She shot him while he was laying in bed. I think it was a shotgun to the back. I see why people in other countries hate United States.
just because he was a preacher dont make him innocent. he was in fact a bully who happened to be a preacher.  she was found guilty of killing an SOB.  vick has pleaded guilty to cruelty and interstate gambling...both federal crimes.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2007, 03:22:20 PM »
but it is also very true that many major police departments have been caught engaging in some very discriminatory behavior- such as planting evidence, physically abusing suspects during interrogation, and blatant profiling- the Chicago PD and the LAPD have been particularly guilty of such acts


Are bad cops really the problem? For every unlawful conviction, how many just got caught? This is why EVERYBODY laughs when Chris Rock jokes about it.

As for profiling, this is the epitome of political correctness. They better profile! Those are my tax dollars. Profile CRIMINALS. Blacks more often fit certain profiles - like Muslims at airports! - should we ignore this?

We're back to personal accountability. Compton will never be on your travel guide's 'Things To Do In L.A.' and it ain't because of cops. Again, this is why everybody laughs when Chris Rock jokes about it.

PC will ultimately destroy us. It's why California is barely ours, and terrorists will board planes (Sorry, 240) while grandma's carry-on gets searched. It's why I'd be considered racist for saying any of this aloud.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2007, 03:25:25 PM »
But we've moved on, sorry.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2007, 04:20:03 PM »
just because he was a preacher dont make him innocent. he was in fact a bully who happened to be a preacher.  she was found guilty of killing an SOB.  vick has pleaded guilty to cruelty and interstate gambling...both federal crimes.

hahahahaahahahahahahaaha h a bully? if he was sooooooo much of a bully then why couldn't she get a divorce. haha i forgot you are a woman.

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2007, 12:19:46 PM »
in talking about responsibility, you should watch these two mothers speak- especially the first one

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2007/08/video-in-their-.html

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Re: Defending Micheal Vick?
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2007, 07:14:44 PM »
hahahahaahahahahahahaahah a bully? if he was sooooooo much of a bully then why couldn't she get a divorce. haha i forgot you are a woman.
divorce isnt an option to a control freak like that preacher, the SOB had to go.