Author Topic: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?  (Read 1263 times)

Livewire

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3134
  • I call Nasser.
Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« on: September 11, 2007, 06:41:03 PM »
They're a dynasty.  But they've been cheating for years now.

Would they have won 3 super bowls in 4 years, without knowledge of what the other team was going to do?  I doubt it.

This is big.
Nasser called Palumbo an acromegalion

body88

  • Guest
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 07:19:49 PM »
They're a dynasty.  But they've been cheating for years now.

Would they have won 3 super bowls in 4 years, without knowledge of what the other team was going to do?  I doubt it.

This is big.

You have no proof they have been "cheating" for years. First off it was a totally different coaching staff during there sb rein. Hell some of those coaches might work for your team? I bet there cheating over there to! There is no rule against stealing signs. There is a rule against video taping them tho. That was wrong. I'm sorry this is not some HUGE deal. Most all former pros who have commented on this have hinted to this going on since the start of the sport. A wink wink notch notch deal. Sorta like pine tar in baseball. You know why the pitcher is tipping his cap. Not to say what the pats did was ok, but it ain't like they where caught bugging opposing teams offices ::) Peter King was going on about how the colts are also rumored to be notorious for this. Christ the phins where reported to the NFL for trying o steal audio last year. It was scoffed off. Same deal with mangini tampering with pats players. There has never been a peep of this type of thing since the phins tried to steal the pats audio last year. Let the facts come out before you rush to judgement. What they did was wrong, but basing everything the franchise has ever done on stealing some signs is big time overkill. Not to mention it was a total different coaching staff during those sb's. You dont even know who did what yet.

The pats deserve punishment.The violated league policy. Then again so didn't Brain Urlacer when he wore a vitamin hat on national tv. I think some of you are forming opinions based on pure hatered on the patriots. I sure as hell know not a soul screams cheaterrr whenever the niners,chargers or broncs take the field. All teams who have been caught and punished "cheating". At least let due process take its course before going off the cuff.

Btw post in the thread already dedicated to this, im going to merge it in there.

WOOO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18158
  • Fuck the mods
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2007, 05:31:14 AM »
LIES!!!


the JETS suck

body88

  • Guest
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2007, 05:51:54 AM »
LIES!!!


the JETS suck


Not to mention the guy who "stole" signals was interogated and kicked out during halftime.The jets knew about this "guy" all game. Jets would have lost either way. I can see how this could be a great way to get off the hotm seat for telling your best offensive gaurd to take a walk over a million bucks, and starting the season with no offensive line!

Oldschool Flip

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3309
  • Eat Balut! High in Protein!
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 06:00:59 AM »
I just hope that the Pats have the pass defense signals down pat for every team they play so Brady can change the play to a RUNNING PLAY. I need more out of Maroney in my league!

Tre

  • Expert
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16548
  • "What you don't have is a career."
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2007, 09:33:21 AM »

Why all the excuse-making, Body?

Why not just man up and say, "Ok, you got us"?

headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2007, 09:47:07 AM »
Ok...U got us. Bill got caught stealing signs...a clear violation of NFL league rules. Punishment TBD. But this isn't dog fighting, betting on games, shaving points, juicing or anything else that is a violation of either State or Federal laws....lets keep it in perspective.
L

body88

  • Guest
Re: Is THIS why the Patriots have been so good for so long?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2007, 10:57:35 AM »
Why all the excuse-making, Body?

Why not just man up and say, "Ok, you got us"?

I'm not making excuses. Why the inflammatory comments? I have said over and over the pats should be punished for this. What they did was wrong Are you not reading my posts? I am defensing them against accusations that they have cheated there way into everything they have done. I am also defending them against people who are going WAY overboard about this. Acting like this is some new phenomenon. Zack Thomas openly bragged about stealing Tom Brady's audibles last year when they shit the pats out at Foxboro. They got those audibles of a illegal tape. Where was the outrage? First of all Mangini was the defensive coordinator for the patriots when they won all those sb's. By default he is a cheater right? The guy got a head coaching job due to Bill bringing him in the league and teaching him. The pats didn't even use that tape vs the jets. It was confiscated before they saw it.

If the pats cheated so much why did the colts score so many points on them in the second half. They ob knew what was coming right? I get it the colts are all superhuman and can defy knowing all there plays.

If you get technial about the rule it says no video taping machines can be used for a game in progress. Does not say you cant tape and use them later on to try and figure out a teams tendancies while scouting. An ob loophole many are speculating the pats where trying to exploit. A big mistake and a dumb screw up. This is nothing new, Sign stealing goes on every single time to teams play.

Mike Shanahan and co cheated the cap several times during there sb runs. They got fined draft pics. Is he a cheat? My guess is no, right.