critique cycle.....again!

[xander]

well with the help of a couple of guys from this forum, ive decided 2 run the following cycle.....again any suggestions and additions would b greatly appreciated, thanx

wk 1- test enanthate 500mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 2- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 3- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 4- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 5- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 6- test e 500mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 7- dbol 30mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 8- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 9- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 10- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 11- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 12- dbol 30mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 13- deca 300mg/w clen 80mcg/d
wk 14-20- clen 120mcg/d
i was thinking off adding some test prop beginning wk 14 for another 4 wks

[wes mantooth]

no good xander......

if you run the deca and dbol after the test stopped.....then your prick will be a noodle...fucking a girl would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube....not gonna work

dbol at the beginning!!!!

week 1-4 40mgs dbol
week 1-12 600mgs of test
week 1-12 300mgs of deca
week 13-17 test prop
week 14 or so start your clen.....2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
start pct at week 18

simple/ clean/ efficient...easy!

[koho]

well with the help of a couple of guys from this forum, ive decided 2 run the following cycle.....again any suggestions and additions would b greatly appreciated, thanx

wk 1- test enanthate 500mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 2- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 3- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 4- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 5- test e 750mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 6- test e 500mg/w deca 300mg/w
wk 7- dbol 30mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 8- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 9- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 10- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 11- dbol 40mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 12- dbol 30mg/d deca 300mg/w
wk 13- deca 300mg/w clen 80mcg/d
wk 14-20- clen 120mcg/d
i was thinking off adding some test prop beginning wk 14 for another 4 wks

If you have prop start with that.. 1cc ED for the first week then EOD for the next two. During week 1 front load 750mg of E. It will take 3 weeks to get into your system. So you will still be taking the E every week... try Tuesday Thursday split 250mgs each time. By the time you hit week three cut the prop and continue 500mgs E each week along with deca. Really no need to run the d/bol also unless you really want to shut your shit down. You will grow fine off the E and decca. I would also suggest running proviron during the cycle. 50mgs per day. 25 in the morning and 25 at night. Don't worry about it completely eliminating the estrogen, the benefits far out weight that. I would save the clen unless you are planning on bridging with that into something else. If you are not bridging you need to be more concerned with running an appropriate PCT.....you really should be switching esters every 4-6 weeks so you could switch to Cyp or straight prop in your week 7 and continue to run the decca.

[wes mantooth]

If you have prop start with that.. 1cc ED for the first week then EOD for the next two. start with dbol for the kicker...save the prop til the endDuring week 1 front load 750mg of E. no need to frontload if your using orals in the beginningIt will take 3 weeks to get into your system. So you will still be taking the E every week... try Tuesday Thursday split 250mgs each time. why tues...and thurs, thats only a one day gapBy the time you hit week three cut the prop and continue 500mgs E each week along with deca. Really no need to run the d/bol also unless you really want to shut your shit down. dbol doesnt shut you down any more than anything elseYou will grow fine off the E and decca. I would also suggest running proviron during the cycle. 50mgs per day. 25 in the morning and 25 at night. Don't worry about it completely eliminating the estrogen, the benefits far out weight that. I would save the clen unless you are planning on bridging with that into something else. bridging is an old school wives tale, youre either on...or offIf you are not bridging you need to be more concerned with running an appropriate PCT.....you really should be switching esters every 4-6 weeks so you could switch to Cyp or straight prop in your week 7 and continue to run the decca. waht? why change 2 slow acting esters? cyp and enanthate or so close anyway...no need to switch

xander...keep it simple...look at the cycle i laid out......

[Arnold jr]

wk 1-6 dbol 40mg/ed
wk 1-13 test 750mg/wk
wk 1-13 deca 400mg/wk
wk 14-17 prop 200mg/eod

[wes mantooth]

wk 1-6 dbol 40mg/ed
wk 1-13 test 750mg/wk
wk 1-13 deca 400mg/wk
wk 14-17 prop 200mg/eod

see..a little different, but ideally the same. simple

stick with these types of cycles xander....youre bumbling too much stuff around...putting them in the wrong places...


let us know

[trab]

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Im wondering what the most Test E He's used previously is? 
If not close to 750mg, that may be a bit much.

That Dbol at the end is not for a inexperienced user (Or many others)

Stop deca at least 3 weeks prior to the TE is my usual plan. Deca seems even more supressive than Test to me.

Proprionate at the end makes for a smooth landing.
A little var or primo or Stanoz dont hurt there either.

[xander]

as always thanx alot guys, i knew i could count on u guys 2 show me the right way.....yeah wes ill stick with your outline, sounds exactly what im looking 4.....listen if i were 2 put down my diet outline on here would u guys help me tweak it out? i plan on using the same diet i used when i took the dbol/deca/sust stack awhile ago and i gained around 55+ pds.....oh almost forgot been reading around that its better 2 take dbol split up throughout the day, what u guys think about that idea?

[SWOLETRAIN]

wk 1-6 dbol 40mg/ed
wk 1-13 test 750mg/wk
wk 1-13 deca 400mg/wk
wk 14-17 prop 200mg/eod

I like this one alot. Good stuff AJ, basic and smart

[RDW]

I agree with Wes and AJ, keep it simple like they laid out.  A full 12 weeks or so of test and deca (stop the deca a week or 2 before the test for less sides) and 6 weeks of dbol thrown in the beginning.

[trab]

Dbol? Split?  I like to split it in 3 doses.
Last dose No later than about 4-5pm.

Like: 6am  11am  4-5pm.   10mg each time

[freakfestMD]

Dbol? Split?  I like to split it in 3 doses.
Last dose No later than about 4-5pm.

Like: 6am  11am  4-5pm.   10mg each time

^Same here.

[xander]

im enclosing my diet which i plan on running in a couple of months, hope any1 outhere can give me an opinion
meal 1
4 whole eggs p-28 c-4 f-20 kcals-320
2 egg whites p-10 c-0 f-0 kcals-40
120 gr. 2% cottage cheese p-13 c-5 f-2.5 kcals-90
120 gr oatmeal p-15 c-81 f-9 kcals-450
2 slices whole wheat bread p-8 c-20 f-2 kcals-100     total- p-74 c-110 f-33.5 kcals-1000

meal 2
8 oz meat p-54 c-0 f-10 kcals-306
2 slices whole wheat bread p-8 c-20 f-2 kcals-100
32 gr peanut butter p-8 c-7 f-16 kcals-190
4 oz pasta p-12 c-84 f-2 kcals-400     total- p-82 c-111 f-30 kcals-996

meal 3
heavyweight gainer 900 p-35 c-103 f-8.5 kcals- 630
1 tbsp flaxseed oil p-0 c-0 f-14 kcals- 130
3 egg whites p-15 c-0 f-0 kcals-60
2 cups skim milk p-16 c-26 f-0 kcals 180     total- p-66 c-129 f-22.5 kcals-1000

meal 4
same as meal 2

meal 5
238 gr 2% cottage cheese p-26 c-10 f-5 kcals-180
120 gr oatmeal p-15 c-81 f-9 kcals-450
2 slices whole wheat bread p-8 c-20 f-2 kcals-100
32 gr peanut butter p-8 c-7 f-16 kcals-190     total- p-57 c-118 f-16 kcals-920

total intake p-361 c-579 f-148 kcals-4912
kcals p-1480.1 c-2373.9 f-1346.8 kcals-5200.8

protein=250gr=50gr a meal
carb=500gr=100gr a meal
fat=100gr=20gr a meal

[4thAD]

Dbol? Split?  I like to split it in 3 doses.
Last dose No later than about 4-5pm.

Like: 6am  11am  4-5pm.   10mg each time

yep good split on the dbol here^^ and like mentioned above keep it simple. No need to ramp up and down like that.