The other kind of good bodybuilding genetics: pharmaceutical tolerance...

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The fact is many people with good muscle building genetics don't necessarily have the genetics to tolerate all the drugs that a serious bodybuilder needs to take. After a while many burn out....the top dogs not only have great muscle genetics but also great drug tolerance genetics...

Discuss...

[MindSpin]

The fact is many people with good muscle building genetics don't necessarily have the genetics to tolerate all the drugs that a serious bodybuilder needs to take. After a while many burn out....the top dogs not only have great muscle genetics but also great drug tolerance genetics...

Discuss...

I've brought this up many times.  But there is an even better type of bodybuilding genetics: pharmaceutical sensitivity.  Some guys need only small dosages of regular AAS for short cycles, to make astounding gains, while other need to get jacked up yearound for dismal gains.  Yet another genetic factor...

[Palpatine Q]

I've brought this up many times.  But there is an even better type of bodybuilding genetics: pharmaceutical sensitivity.  Some guys need only small dosages of regular AAS for short cycles, to make astounding gains, while other need to get jacked up yearound for dismal gains.  Yet another genetic factor...

See LEVRONE, KEVIN

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Yes...he has THOSE genetics....

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I've brought this up many times.  But there is an even better type of bodybuilding genetics: pharmaceutical sensitivity.  Some guys need only small dosages of regular AAS for short cycles, to make astounding gains, while other need to get jacked up yearound for dismal gains.  Yet another genetic factor...

This is true...I knew guys on 250mg of testo a week making much better gains than genetically comparable (muscle wise) guys on 750mg...

Strange...Kevin Levrone comes to mind as a guy with great genetics in every area...

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I think Ronnie coleman has great genetics. Now that he retires, let's see how much he will retain. in my opinion, he'll look way better than most retired Pro off the sauces

[slaveboy1980]

The fact is many people with good muscle building genetics don't necessarily have the genetics to tolerate all the drugs that a serious bodybuilder needs to take. After a while many burn out....the top dogs not only have great muscle genetics but also great drug tolerance genetics...

Discuss...

very true. same thing with "pharmaceutical sensitivity" as mindspin mentions.

also some guys dont naturaly have good "get big" genetics but have amazing muscle bellies and structure. these guys would be small without drugs........but when they add drugs into the mix they blow up and all that muscle looks fantastic on a small frame.

[Marty Champions]

to be big you have to eat alot and workout ALOT, whenever your not working out your muscles are just deflating litereally from last workout. to keep everything constantly pumped and growing you must workout every day. juicers do not even understand this. But i think paul dillet did understand this doing his 2 plus hours of cardio perday gave him humongous size above the rest. i dont see anyone doing that kind of cardio these days.

[slaveboy1980]

to be big you have to eat alot and workout ALOT, whenever your not working out your muscles are just deflating litereally from last workout. to keep everything constantly pumped and growing you must workout every day. juicers do not even understand this. But i think paul dillet did understand this doing his 2 plus hours of cardio perday gave him humongous size above the rest. i dont see anyone doing that kind of cardio these days.

thats not the point of this thread. go back to polishing poo encrusted mountain peeks.

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I knew a kid in college (pre-med!) that could take 3 amps of Sust a week and he would just BLOW UP.  He'd go on for 8 weeks or so, then come off for about the same amount of time, and not lose but @ 10 lbs or so.  He had a rule of time off=time on.

He also smoked weed before he trained to dull the pain and after he trained to stimulate appetite.  I've never seen a human being (pound for pound) eat that much!

Just goes to show, genetically, there sre just some that are a step ahead...

[Marty Champions]

I knew a kid in college (pre-med!) that could take 3 amps of Sust a week and he would just BLOW UP.  He'd go on for 8 weeks or so, then come off for about the same amount of time, and not lose but @ 10 lbs or so.  He had a rule of time off=time on.

He also smoked weed before he trained to dull the pain and after he trained to stimulate appetite.  I've never seen a human being (pound for pound) eat that much!

Just goes to show, genetically, there sre just some that are a step ahead...

are you talking about Aaron G. I havent seen that kid in years! what is he up to?

[Marty Champions]

I knew a kid in college (pre-med!) that could take 3 amps of Sust a week and he would just BLOW UP.  He'd go on for 8 weeks or so, then come off for about the same amount of time, and not lose but @ 10 lbs or so.  He had a rule of time off=time on.

He also smoked weed before he trained to dull the pain and after he trained to stimulate appetite.  I've never seen a human being (pound for pound) eat that much!

Just goes to show, genetically, there sre just some that are a step ahead...

hahah that kids brother did 315 behined the neck for like 12reps, you see how much his brother ate?

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to be big you have to eat alot and workout ALOT, whenever your not working out your muscles are just deflating litereally from last workout. to keep everything constantly pumped and growing you must workout every day. juicers do not even understand this. But i think paul dillet did understand this doing his 2 plus hours of cardio perday gave him humongous size above the rest. i dont see anyone doing that kind of cardio these days.

Are you on crack? Every day? For growth?!

[Marty Champions]

Are you on crack? Every day? For growth?!

if i didnt have that beleif i would train less and be smaller

same goes for why do some do 2 hours of cardio per day

or people like serge nubret and thierry pastel trained 8 hours perday

im sure they beleive this too

[Triple-H_2005]

are you talking about Aaron G. I havent seen that kid in years! what is he up to?

Hells yes.  I knew you'd remember him.
I tried to keep up with him (eating) for a weekend.  I started Friday night and made it until about 2 PM Saturday and that was it.  I don't think I ate for 2 days after that!

Last I heard, he went to medical school somewhere in Florida.  I'll see if Nigel can track down Jason & ask him.  He and his brother were just genetic freaks...

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if i didnt have that beleif i would train less and be smaller

same goes for why do some do 2 hours of cardio per day

or people like serge nubret and thierry pastel trained 8 hours perday

im sure they beleive this too

I remember when I trained 6 times a week...I made almost no progress...switched to 3 days a week and made great progress. I don't know how anyone not super juiced can train every day and still make progress...your belief defies the scientific understanding of hypertrophy! It sounds like you are just advocating overtraining...ask Dorian Yates...

[Marty Champions]

Hells yes.  I knew you'd remember him.
I tried to keep up with him (eating) for a weekend.  I started Friday night and made it until about 2 PM Saturday and that was it.  I don't think I ate for 2 days after that!

Last I heard, he went to medical school somewhere in Florida.  I'll see if Nigel can track down Jason & ask him.  He and his brother were just genetic freaks...

yeah that bastard gave me all sorts of ideas as far as massive eating goes, that kid would load up a whole pan of groundbeef stacked high and cook it with some sort of taco seasoning then smoke weed then eat a batch of ravioli's, he always stayed pretty lean. i remember when he was ripped but then i think he skipped town or something

[slaveboy1980]

I remember when I trained 6 times a week...I made almost no progress...switched to 3 days a week and made great progress. I don't know how anyone not super juiced can train every day and still make progress...your belief defies the scientific understanding of hypertrophy! It sounds like you are just advocating overtraining...ask Dorian Yates...

its just bullshit as the guy hasnt improved in years. he has good genetics but has fucked himself up.  

sure if you workout everyday you will be pumped but that wont be any real muscle gain.

3 days a week is enough for anyone. even an elite IFBB pro. i know dexter built alot of mass going to the gym only 3 days a week.

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its just bullshit as the guy hasnt improved in years. he has good genetics but has fucked himself up.  

sure if you workout everyday you will be pumped but that wont be any real muscle gain.

3 days a week is enough for anyone. even an elite IFBB pro. i know dexter built alot of mass going to the gym only 3 days a week.

Amazing how he really believes training every day is good for him; maybe he has a psychological disorder; Muscle Dysmorphia!?

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its just bullshit as the guy hasnt improved in years. he has good genetics but has fucked himself up.  

sure if you workout everyday you will be pumped but that wont be any real muscle gain.

3 days a week is enough for anyone. even an elite IFBB pro. i know dexter built alot of mass going to the gym only 3 days a week.

Most of the pros built their basis mass training 3 times a week...