Author Topic: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.  (Read 2000 times)

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garbage, plain and simple

Reminded me of EAS Phosphagain II that I bought back in 1992.

This company is put out by Iovate, which is, of course, MuscleTech.

The marketing on this Muscle Asylum line may be the most absurd in sport supplement history

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The marketing on this Muscle Asylum line may be the most absurd in sport supplement history

  We'd expect nothing less from MuscleTech.

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why is it garbage? (garbage is another brand)
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garbage, plain and simple

Reminded me of EAS Phosphagain II that I bought back in 1992.

This company is put out by Iovate, which is, of course, MuscleTech.

The marketing on this Muscle Asylum line may be the most absurd in sport supplement history

So you're saying you didn't like it  ??? :P
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So you're saying you didn't like it  ??? :P

It's just a blend of whey concentrate, CLA, flax (and green tea for "violent fat burning")

Of course they don't tell you the amounts of each "proprietary" ingredient

If anyone tried Stallone's products, this is it in a new package

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so why is it garbage
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It's just a blend of whey concentrate, CLA, flax (and green tea for "violent fat burning")

Of course they don't tell you the amounts of each "proprietary" ingredient

If anyone tried Stallone's products, this is it in a new package

I've used Stallone's products, or at least, his MRPs....when GNC marked down the 20-serving box to $18 ($16 and change with the Gold Card)  ;D. They didn't taste too bad; but they were a bit sludgy and separated if you didn't consume them quickly.

As far as "Freak Fix" is concerned, how do make such an assertion based on ONE sample serving of the stuff? I could see if you use it for a month or two. But, one serving (a sample serving, at that)??? If it just tasted awful (i.e. orange-flavored CELL-TECH or the now-defunct powdered Gakic), I can see your point.

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The marketing on this Muscle Asylum line may be the most absurd in sport supplement history

Ya know I totally agree with you.  I think witty advertising can help any company grab a customers attention.  When it comes to bodybuilding supplements, I believe there is a healthy skeptisim amongst many buyers due to products simply not living up to the hype.  This whole "silence of the lambs/insane asylum" theme just takes away from their credibility and disinterests me before I'm even wondering whats in the product.

I've been in the vitamin/supplement industry in the past and I can tell something works from one key indicator-repeat sales.  When somethings benefiting someone they will buy it again and again.  The sad thing is that many more products come and go over the years than stay as repeat sellers.  Will this be one?

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2007, 06:36:51 PM »
They wont be around very long. People (or at least I would like to think so) are starting to get a little smarter about finding out who the phony's are.  Their main customer base are high schoolers who dont know any better and the 30+ year olds who still live in their moms basement. If you read their product description, and STILL buy their products, then you are obviously not well educated in the supplement game and thats how they make their money. They know people who are actually serious about working out and people who care how they spend their money wont fall for their bullshit. Its all good though, these companies need stupid people just like us smart ones need people to work at Burger King so they can serve us our Whoppers.

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2007, 02:24:14 AM »
Once again, what exactly about this supplement itself (not the ads or promos) makes it garbage? The ingredients? The taste?

Plus, Havenbull tried ONE sample serving and by his account, the ingredients are whey, CLA, flax oil, and green tea. These ingredients are "garbage" because..........

BTW, Koolie, how do you the customer base of a brand that's only been on the market for about 5-6 weeks?

As for the marketing, it is unique, indeed. I mean, would you rather Muscle Asylum stick with the tried-and-true (or at least, tired), swole-bodybuilder-with-silicon-stuffed-blondes-glued-to-him (crediting such to insert-supplement-name-here) routine?

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2007, 06:34:39 AM »
Havebull

You know whats funy about it, This company is going to sell like crasy, Only becuase they have the budget to advertise. Me and you may know the truth but most consumers dont, they went out with an ad campain which cost them milions and they know they will bring it back.  ???

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2007, 08:13:46 AM »
Once again, what exactly about this supplement itself (not the ads or promos) makes it garbage? The ingredients? The taste?

Plus, Havenbull tried ONE sample serving and by his account, the ingredients are whey, CLA, flax oil, and green tea. These ingredients are "garbage" because..........

BTW, Koolie, how do you the customer base of a brand that's only been on the market for about 5-6 weeks?

As for the marketing, it is unique, indeed. I mean, would you rather Muscle Asylum stick with the tried-and-true (or at least, tired), swole-bodybuilder-with-silicon-stuffed-blondes-glued-to-him (crediting such to insert-supplement-name-here) routine?

I hear what you are saying Mcway.  I persoanlly have not tried the product though my point was when you see advertisments like this it becomes hard to get past the gimmick part of things after seeing it in one form or another for so many years.  If this company is part of Muscle Tech than think back to some of their advertising when they were first introduced.  Taking the concept of outrageous claims to a new level seemed part of their strategy.  Remember their claims that the products were helping make Greg Kovacs the next Mr. O.  Pretty redicuolus especially knowing what we know now.

By looking at the product itself I guess the problem, for me at least, is that it is just one in a line of many supplements that all seem the same.  I don't see the difference in many of them. 

If this product works for someone than great.  Though I would just like to see more dignity in the marketing sometimes. 

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2007, 11:20:25 AM »
So in short, Freak fix didn't put the lotion in the basket for you?

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2007, 04:21:50 AM »
I hear what you are saying Mcway.  I persoanlly have not tried the product though my point was when you see advertisments like this it becomes hard to get past the gimmick part of things after seeing it in one form or another for so many years.  If this company is part of Muscle Tech than think back to some of their advertising when they were first introduced.  Taking the concept of outrageous claims to a new level seemed part of their strategy.  Remember their claims that the products were helping make Greg Kovacs the next Mr. O.  Pretty redicuolus especially knowing what we know now.

By looking at the product itself I guess the problem, for me at least, is that it is just one in a line of many supplements that all seem the same.  I don't see the difference in many of them. 

If this product works for someone than great.  Tough I would just like to see more dignity in the marketing sometimes. 

Gimmicks are almost a necessary evil, for lack of a better term. Nobody is going to know what your protein powder/creatine/NO cocktail can do unless they try it. And, virtually no one will try it, unless something about the product grabs their attention.

Granted, marketing something like Freak Fix, with its flesh-off-the-bone fat-burning system, fueled with extreme cross-flow, ion-exchanged, wave-pulse, smack-it-up-flip-it-rub-it-down whey protein matrix, can get a bit silly. But, as Greg Zulak once mentioned, if you state that this has whey protein isolate, green tea, and some CLA, and, combined with proper diet and exercise, may help create the environment for greater muscle gains, chances are it won’t sell worth squat. The Asylum thing is a bit wacky, but it beats the old, tired T&A ads we see from virtually every supplement company on Planet Earth. It also beats this one: the sad, pitiful-faced bodybuilder, living in a rat shack, training in condemned firetrap, disguised at a gym, He laments about all the rigors of his quest to become Mr. Podunk, hardly paying his bills, ignoring his girlfriend/wife, because he’s “hardcore”.

As the saying goes, “Rome wasn’t built in a day”. Nobody handed MuscleTech a multi-million-dollar advertising budget. It started off small, just like everyone else. Check the old ads from the mid-90s. As you said, Greg Kovacs was their main (if not their sole) guinea pig.  It was producing effective products that made MuscleTech the success that it is. MuscleTech started with a mere three supplements: Acetabolan, Hydroxycut, and Creatine 6000-ES. I would say that latter two (especially Hydroxycut) paved the way for MuscleTech’s prosperity.

Then came CELL-TECH and the prohormones (Anotesten and Nortesten). MuscleTech blew up even more. Throw in NITRO-TECH and the MT express looked almost unstoppable. But, when hard times come, smart marketing is how you survive.

Remember the Biblical parable about the men, one who built his house on sand and the other who built his house on the rock? The sand, in this case, was ephedra/ma huang-based fat-burners and prohormones. The rock was creatine and whey protein. MuscleTech built its empire on sand, as did a lot of small, up-and-coming companies did.

But, the storm clouds (of the prohormone and ephedra bans) were brewing. The suits at MT saw it coming and shifted their whole marketing strategy, taking the emphasis off Hydroxycut (the ma-huang one) and the prohormones, and placing it squarely on two products: their now #1 creatine (CELL-TECH) and their super protein powder (NITRO-TECH).
 
When the storm hit, the companies that hedge their bet with ephedra fat burners and prohormones got wiped out. MuscleTech got rocked, too; but it survived, recovered, and is thriving again. Producing effective products is how MuscleTech became a player in the supplement business and that is how it, or any of its offspring (Six Star, Muscle Asylum, etc.) will become or stay that way.

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2007, 05:53:13 AM »
I hear what you are saying Mcway.  I persoanlly have not tried the product though my point was when you see advertisments like this it becomes hard to get past the gimmick part of things after seeing it in one form or another for so many years.  If this company is part of Muscle Tech than think back to some of their advertising when they were first introduced.  Taking the concept of outrageous claims to a new level seemed part of their strategy.  Remember their claims that the products were helping make Greg Kovacs the next Mr. O.  Pretty redicuolus especially knowing what we know now.


MuscleTech didn't help his cause, because they kept advertising that he could compete at 325-350 lbs. ripped. To that end, they kept stuffing him, getting him over 400 lbs. having him whittle down to that advertised bodyweight. More often than not, he ended up as smooth as a baby's behind onstage.

Notwithstanding that putting on size was hardly a problem for Kovacs, mass was the last thing he needed. He needed to work on his proportions. Had he kept his bodyweight in the low 300s (i.e. 302 lbs., the size he was when he won the 1996 Canadian Nationals), he would have fared better at the pro level.




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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2007, 07:22:24 PM »
Their customer base is the same as Muscletech, they are one and the same and they are targeting the same people. Didnt you see the guy with the "leather mask" when you opened getbig.com???? Come on now, you KNOW who they are targeting!

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2007, 03:34:56 PM »

As the saying goes, “Rome wasn’t built in a day”. Nobody handed MuscleTech a multi-million-dollar advertising budget. It started off small, just like everyone else. Check the old ads from the mid-90s. As you said, Greg Kovacs was their main (if not their sole) guinea pig.  It was producing effective products that made MuscleTech the success that it is. MuscleTech started with a mere three supplements: Acetabolan, Hydroxycut, and Creatine 6000-ES. I would say that latter two (especially Hydroxycut) paved the way for MuscleTech’s prosperity.

Then came CELL-TECH and the prohormones (Anotesten and Nortesten). MuscleTech blew up even more. Throw in NITRO-TECH and the MT express looked almost unstoppable. But, when hard times come, smart marketing is how you survive.


Well I do remember that when Muscle Tech was introduced onto the market they basically had MuscleMag as their main advertising means.  I'm dont know if one owned the other though Musclemag was filled with Muscle Tech advertisments at the time. 

And I totally understand what youre saying.  A company could have the greatest product in the world out yet if nobody knows about it, it doesnt do anyone any good.  However when they make claims that taking Cell Tech will give 1000% greater results over regular creatine then the claims start becoming insulting regardless if the FDA is banning substances or not. 

It seems to me that once supplements becomes something you use over the years the advertising doesnt impact you so much.  You find youre favorite products after trying a few things and drop what you dont like.  The advertising likely has a bigger impact on newbies and early 20 somethings. 

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Re: Just tried a free sample pack of Muscle Asylum "Freak Fix" Vanilla flavor.
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2007, 03:58:20 PM »
I agree!!! Here in Greece i tried one serving of chocolate Freak Fix.

130 calories, 4,5 fat, 6,5 carbs and only 17 gr of protein!!!! Totally garbage for me!