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« on: December 04, 2007, 08:15:10 AM »
Hey guys, been on for little while and never really had any nipple/gyno problems but as I was putting lotion on, I squeezed my nipple to check for any lumps (I do use letro eod) and when I squeezed them, puss looking stuff came out, what the hell could this be?
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Re: nipples
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 08:16:09 AM »
You arent pregnant and lactating are you? Junior style?

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 08:18:50 AM »
I hope I'm not pregnant lol. My fiance would kill me lol, I have no idea, never has happened before, its a brownish color like puss, and it came out of two differenet spots on my nipple, any answers?
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Re: nipples
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 08:54:58 AM »
That aint cool......... Personaly I'd be calling the Doc and gettin' an apointment now.
This is not unheard of, but it needs attention.

I also question if your "Letro" is Legit. (I question if any research chems are, Adex and the like are VERY spendy pharma. I find it hard to beleive its possible to get and sell at the prices I see. Clearly there have been problems with the clen in the past re: this issue)

What have you been running? Very heavy androgens I assume?
 
Anyone know, Is there some of the stuff with estrogen in the Testo circulating around the market?
There are several pharma products like that, any AAS that will sell gets diverted these days.

Or, Have you been eating the Girl Friends BIRTH CONTROL PILLS? You understand SHE is supposed to take them, not you?
But they may work in time if you take them long enough, keep us posted.....  ;)

Seriously, get that looked at.

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Re: nipples
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 09:03:31 AM »
I have been running only 500mg test and 400eq and have been on a steady cycle for over a year now, in my last 3 months, I know its long, I'm revising that tactic! This is the first time I have noticed it and for the letro, I have seen mild swelling in the nipples and have went away using the research chem letro, so I know I have seen good signs from it, its just weird, any othe explanations?
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Re: nipples
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 09:22:42 AM »
Is this the first time you have used the letro from the company you got  it from?  The reason I ask, is that I have been on my first  cycle since April and noticed nipple  itching after a month or two and got some Liquidex from a recommended research company and within a day or so of taking it,my soreness went away.  I have to agree with Trab that maybe your letro is bunk. You should have noticed a difference when taking it.  I went as high at 1800mg a week and only needed to take .5 cc of liquidex eod to releive my symptoms.  I  would get on some legit AI  ASAP or do as Trab says and see a doctor.  You don't want to have surgery! 

I have been running only 500mg test and 400eq and have been on a steady cycle for over a year now, in my last 3 months, I know its long, I'm revising that tactic! This is the first time I have noticed it and for the letro, I have seen mild swelling in the nipples and have went away using the research chem letro, so I know I have seen good signs from it, its just weird, any othe explanations?

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 09:52:48 AM »
I undersynd what your saying, I have used it before and noticed a positive difference on my nipples when they get little sore, it goes away fine for me when using this letro, no lumps or anything, I just don't know why puss is coming out when I squeezed them, not sure what it is, could I actually be lactating?
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 10:02:57 AM »
Yes males can lactate from estrogen is my understanding.
Dr is prolly goin to tell you to stop cold, IMO that the worst thing you can do for a hormonal bounce and even higher estrogen levels.

I'd get a referal to endocrinoligy, but your not unlikely to find  a moron with no AAS real experience there too. THey are biased as they only see wrecks, or classify them all as such.


If it were me, I'd presonaly drop the EQ cold, and cut the test in 1/2 ASAP.  In a couple weeks I'd drop the test 1/2 again to 125. Id also get in touch with  the nurse at the local endo clinic and tell her.
THEY will get you on the appt list as soon as they can. Best secret in the medical industy, ask to get to the nurses line. You describe you problem to front desk (on Ph) and they will put you right thru to the nurses line.

Id throw Nolva and Adex at it NOW, and I'd get Pharma grade right now.

I aint no Dr, but Ive actual experience really coming off this stuff. Dropping cold is THE WORST recipie for side effects Ive tried. I'd not do that unless a life threating condition.

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Re: nipples
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 10:10:26 AM »
Is this really a problem? I started back on letro as I have seen some swelling but I know my stuff is legit from me and other users seen good results, I have never had this happen, should I just take the letro on a regular base and see what happens? Fo I really need to call a doc? I don't have a lot of spare money but I do have health insurance, but my deductable is high I think, what else could this be?
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 11:02:11 AM »
Up to you. The breast milk I seen when my wife was pregnant was white...

Ive no idea about a brown disscharge, buy I myself would not fool around.

A trip to endo will prolly run $1000.oo
A regular family practice or better, a internal med Doc may be about <$300 and tests.
Easy to run up $1000 in blood pannels wiht  estren/ prolactin, FSH/LH etc.

Worse yet, he's prolly going to tell ya to stop cold. Know any juicers in your area that know a Dr experienced with steriod users that is not a clueless dork?

Sorry so negative, but Ive nothing good to say about the USA health care "System" in this matter esp.

Im concerned though. Id error on the side of safety
Ive not heard of this from any actual users before. Its deffinatlly listed as a "contraindication" (a dont use)
for using steroid.

Your also only on 500mg & EQ. Knowing what is really in that would be nice. Is it a well known/ used line?

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Re: nipples
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2007, 11:11:27 AM »
I don't like the USA health care stayme either, hurts us non rich folks! I'm concerned but not overly, I know I can't afford going to the doc so I may wait it out and see what happens. I have been using alins stuff, you've probably heard of them, and have been for a while, its probably just a build up of estrogen from me being inconsistant on the letro but once I start using tygr stuff it helps the puffiness of nipples so I know its good stuff, what else?
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Re: nipples
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2007, 11:40:45 AM »
I started back on letro as I have seen some swelling but I know my stuff is legit from me and other users seen good results,

Had you been taking letro for a while?

Had you just come off letro and NOW are going back on?

Were you on letro when you had the nipple issue?

I'm trying to figure out a timeline for your letro use, seems the estrogen rebound from using letro is hitting alot of men hard lately. i've heard of 3 cases identical to yours that happen a few weeks after the person quit taking letro while on cycle.

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Re: nipples
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2007, 12:19:05 PM »
My letro use I guess is pretty inconsistant, I just started using again last wk, so I have been on letro eod for 2 wks now since I have been seeing nipple problems, very slight though, I had been off of it for probably a month but I did use it a couple of times during that last month, I guess I usually use it when I see problems so its a lot of on and off usage, what do you think?
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2007, 12:56:49 PM »
My letro use I guess is pretty inconsistant, I just started using again last wk, so I have been on letro eod for 2 wks now since I have been seeing nipple problems, very slight though, I had been off of it for probably a month but I did use it a couple of times during that last month, I guess I usually use it when I see problems so its a lot of on and off usage, what do you think?

I'd see a doctor and get an expert opinion.

This is one reason why i never used any sort of estrogen blocker. estrogen rebound is no joke but you were only using 500mg of test a week and i find it weird you ran into this problem. the guys i know who had issues from estrogen rebound were running 1500+mg per week.

Hormones are not something to take lightly, a lot of us do, including myself, but we all need to realize we are changing our bodies natural hormone level and we were not meant to have high amounts of estrogen in our body. when a somewhat dormant hormone is amplified by 100 fold the body will react in a very negative manner to this high level of estrogen. please see a doctor and stop taking AAS until you find out the problem. had you been running Tren i could easily pin point your issue, but this problem is estrogen related.

the problem is you blocked estrogen for a while and when you stopped the letro it flooded your body very quickly, this is called estrogen rebound.

You see, estrogen is meant for women and we have all seen what happens when women amplify test in their bodies 100 fold. not a pretty picture, they turn into MEN. now think about the opposite and you get my picture.

i would come off AAS and run a proper PCT with nolva, HCG and clomid. do not use letro in your PCT.

just my .02


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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2007, 12:59:43 PM »
Had you been taking letro for a while?

Had you just come off letro and NOW are going back on?

Were you on letro when you had the nipple issue?

I'm trying to figure out a timeline for your letro use, seems the estrogen rebound from using letro is hitting alot of men hard lately. i've heard of 3 cases identical to yours that happen a few weeks after the person quit taking letro while on cycle.

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Identical with disscharge?
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With our medical system, he could fly RT to Bangkok and see a endo Dr prolly cheaper than just the Dr bill  here.
 ANd possibley be seen sooner than he'd wait for an appt here. (He may wait WEEKs for an appt here) Its pathetic.
See a Dr in 1/2 Hr with a walk in in a BKK Hospital.

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Re: nipples
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2007, 01:10:29 PM »
Identical with disscharge?
See this is why 1. I tapper EVERYTHING.
                      2. Im no fan of the latest ANYTHING, including pharma. The Old skool shit is well tested and all the kinks well known..

With our medical system, he could fly RT to Bangkok and see a endo Dr prolly cheaper than just the Dr bill  here.
 ANd possibley be seen sooner than he'd wait for an appt here. (He may wait WEEKs for an appt here) Its pathetic.
See a Dr in 1/2 Hr with a walk in in a BKK Hospital.

Identical as far as i can tell.

my good friend robert didn't listen when i told him not to take letro for an extended amount of time. he's running 1750mg of test and has been using letro for 4 months, 2 weeks ago he runs out of letro and 3 days ago he calls me explaining his nipples are huge and brown fluid comes out when he squeezes them. now he's running nolva and Adex to help the issue. i need to talk to him and see how he's doing.

our healthcare here is a fucking joke, i would rather fly to BKK. most of our MD's here are complete idiots, book smart but lack common sense and they never think outside the box. i've met a very good MD's, but they are few and far between. i've asked doc's questions about hormones and they had no idea what i was talking about. ask an MD what letro is...lol

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Re: nipples
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2007, 01:15:43 PM »
I don't have proper pct on hand at moment but can get it fast, I don't have the money for a doc, there's nothing I can do about that, what if I stay consistant with the letro and use it untill I get my pct materials?
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2007, 01:47:56 PM »
I do have enough letro til the end of cycle so can I use it till I start hcg and pct? Can I get away with using hcg till end while this issue is present?
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2007, 02:42:33 PM »
You must see a doc.

Your health is worth the money.

I can't advise you because i'm not sure what would help or hurt. Blocking estrogen might hold it back but i honestly am just trying to point you in the right direction based on my knowledge. by no means am i in the position to tell you how to fix your problem.

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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2007, 02:59:20 PM »
I understand bro! Thanks a lot! I think it is  inconsistantlt running it off and on and not being on point, ill run it again and taper down as I get closer to end, the whole doc thing, I think will have to wait, I'm going to try some things and see, let me know how your friend Is doing plz, any other suggestions?
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