Rusty Jeffers and Lee Priest - Training at Maximum Fitness (Dec 2007)

[gh15]

I think the difference is "pros" are willing to be pin cushions... where the average gym rat won't.

well you thnk wrong,,every gym rat is also willing to be pin cushions,,but they dont have the muscle shape,,may have the size but not the combination of low bodfat% with muscles that have extra ordinary shape to them and very good symetry,,

gym rats and professional in many times inject same level ,,but gym rats lack the muscle shape ,,they may very well have same lean muscle mass or good amount of muscle on them ,,but they lack the muscle shape ,,supirior muscle shape and symetry is what bring yuo a pro card

[gh15]

What would happen to the average joe here if they were to start shooting pfizer test?

gh15, we know Lee is hormonized. But you have to admit that not everyone would have his shape and thickness even with the gear he's taking. The dude is just built fucking thick, excluding the chest. I do call bullshit on his cliams of using small amounts though. Most pros are maxed out and there's no doubt about that. I've seen juicers in my gym and not one would even come close to looking like a pro; which goes to show that these guys are pushing it to the limit.

I wonder what damages the liver more in the long run? Booze or ass?

average joe would add 20-30 lb if trained good and  will be called big thick swole ,,will become the local gym about to compete bodybuilder in the make,,

no one uses small doses among the tops,,

the damage to the liver is 1/10 of the damage alcohol does to your liver,,and 1/100 the damage cigarets do to yuor lungs,,then again if you inject to air bubble to a vein ,,a big ass one,,then yorue dead,,,so you still need to know what youre doing and always apply causin with anything in life

[m8]

When did that hair grow on Lee's torso?
He's officially a MAN now.

[Spoony Luv]

I can't believe what I'm reading...GYNO??? He has a full shot of his nips right there, you are imagining this so you can hate??  You have no idea what it is, obviously.  Small back and chest?  What planet are you living on??  Just look at the rear lat spread where you can see his muscle through the shirt.  The name of this thread should be "Jealous and puny boys speak out!"  It is well known between friends and other competitors that Lee probably uses less than any other pro..go ask his ex!!!  I'm sure she knows of women who are using more than him.  It's called genetics, years and years of hard training, knowledge of nutrition, and plain old hard work, something a lot of people don't have a clue about hiding behind their keyboards and protein shakes...

We're lucky they actually give their fans some pics when they're in between shows...I don't see any other pros doing much of that!!  I think they both look awesome and the photographer got other than the "usual" type of stuff we see.  The casual shots are pretty cool. 

I don't know what pictures you are looking at but Lee Priest from the rear in these shots looks like he barely trains back at all...He has never had a good back and now because of everything that has happend to him, it looks like pure laziness has actually caught up to him...Sure he has massive arms...You would to if you trained them just about everyday like Lee does...The guy finish's every workout with standing dumbell curls in his tight spandex shirt for every one to see...He just can't help himself...And he half ass's his back workouts...Why? Because it actually takes some energy to train back...And Lee doesn't like to break a sweat in the gym...He is to busy looking at everyone else's girl/or wife and flexing his synthol filled arms..

Thats Lee in a nutshell..No jealously going on here at all...The man was a great bodybuilder at one time But now that its come out that he is a total douche bag, I can no longer look at him as the same bodybuilder...He tries to come on the board like he is some kind of Truth speaking hero when anyone who knows anything knows that the guy is truly a bad guy...He hides behind words like "His Fans" or "rebel" but the truth is he is a lieing sack of shit...He has no respect for anyone in the sport...If he did, he wouldn't make silly claimse about 2oomgs of deca or 50mgs of winstrol...Had alone is a slap in every pros face...And what he is really saying is "I'm better then all the other pros for i don't really need hormones"...99% of all other pros don't mention amounts they use but Lee feels he has to tell us what he uses...The little bastard has said many many times that he doesn't touch GH but just take a look at this midget....He is sporting a HHH visor on his forhead that he never had in the past...His tiny fingers keep getting thicker and thicker...

The man is a total douche bag...It must be something with midgets and Lying...Derek Farnsworth claims he has never even used a supplement...No creatine no nothing...They both have little man's syndrom...

[bigkahuna]

Yeah seems to go on and on about the same shit , It seems nobody mentions how hard these guys train either, which is a huge factor, sure genetics , nutrition and drugs are all part of it but these guys train balls to the wall as well. These people with there "its all drugs" comments don't know what there talking about.

I dont know how they train normally nor have never seen them train in person.....but looking at those pics their back workout comprises solely of machines

[AZbodybuilder]

I dont know how they train normally nor have never seen them train in person.....but looking at those pics their back workout comprises solely of machines

I cant speak for Lee, but I have trained back with Rusty, and we didn't use any machines. Come on your telling me Rusty has no back ? It may not be Ronnie's or Dorians size but I think he has a great back.

[SS]

well you thnk wrong,,every gym rat is also willing to be pin cushions,,but they dont have the muscle shape,,may have the size but not the combination of low bodfat% with muscles that have extra ordinary shape to them and very good symetry,,

gym rats and professional in many times inject same level ,,but gym rats lack the muscle shape ,,they may very well have same lean muscle mass or good amount of muscle on them ,,but they lack the muscle shape ,,supirior muscle shape and symetry is what bring yuo a pro card

Maybe but there's no way an average gym rat are pin cushions on a daily bases like the pros.........let me ask you this. If it's true what you're saying, why is then when guys get their pro cards they packed on some serious size?

[Man of Steel]

well you thnk wrong,,every gym rat is also willing to be pin cushions,,but they dont have the muscle shape,,may have the size but not the combination of low bodfat% with muscles that have extra ordinary shape to them and very good symetry,,

gym rats and professional in many times inject same level ,,but gym rats lack the muscle shape ,,they may very well have same lean muscle mass or good amount of muscle on them ,,but they lack the muscle shape ,,supirior muscle shape and symetry is what bring yuo a pro card

There's always gonna be crazy fvckers out there, but by and large no regular gym rat that uses a cycle is ever gonna compare to the pin-cushioned chemical vats of the IFBB.

[AZbodybuilder]

There's always gonna be crazy fvckers out there, but by and large no regular gym rat that uses a cycle is ever gonna compare to the pin-cushioned chemical vats of the IFBB.

I don't think your average gym rat, but most national level NPC competitors are doing amounts close to the what pros are.

[gh15]

Maybe but there's no way an average gym rat are pin cushions on a daily bases like the pros.........let me ask you this. If it's true what you're saying, why is then when guys get their pro cards they packed on some serious size?

insulin and even higher doses than before

[gh15]

There's always gonna be crazy fvckers out there, but by and large no regular gym rat that uses a cycle is ever gonna compare to the pin-cushioned chemical vats of the IFBB.

youll be surprized especially in the country of america,,there is a gym rat and there is a gym rat as the saying goes,,,most bouncers the guys who wake up at 1 or 2 pm afternoon in usa and in a good cized cities are hormonizedvery similar to ifbb professonal and also hold the size but not exactly the best symetry or musacle shape needed inorder to get pro card,,the guys who are usually on 500mg -750mg a week are the smarter guys that have nothing to do with distribution of hormones ,,mostly students and just goold guys from good homes that do it because they still see bodybuilding for what it suppose to be but they also wake up at the end and smell the kitchen ,,,
its very simple ,,the more you train the more drugs you need ,,the less you train the less drugs you need,,its all a matter of recovery,,i rarely see natural  as in truley natural bodybuilders anymore,,most of them are older individuals that dissapear out of the scene,,in america it is big big problem because look now when they cut you off most suppliers you can see your gyms are half to 75% empty,,the word ALL DRUGS is a true phrase that means just that,, and is also very true to whats going on in the usa dna round the world now days when it comes to lifting weights

[Bobby]

gh15

What health risks do you think there is from being hormonized like that and what precautions do you and others take?
also what is your thoughts about several pros with kidney problems/failure and other health issues, why do some get it and others not?

[Benny B]

I don't know what pictures you are looking at but Lee Priest from the rear in these shots looks like he barely trains back at all...He has never had a good back and now because of everything that has happend to him, it looks like pure laziness has actually caught up to him...Sure he has massive arms...You would to if you trained them just about everyday like Lee does...The guy finish's every workout with standing dumbell curls in his tight spandex shirt for every one to see...He just can't help himself...And he half ass's his back workouts...Why? Because it actually takes some energy to train back...And Lee doesn't like to break a sweat in the gym...He is to busy looking at everyone else's girl/or wife and flexing his synthol filled arms..

Thats Lee in a nutshell..No jealously going on here at all...The man was a great bodybuilder at one time But now that its come out that he is a total douche bag, I can no longer look at him as the same bodybuilder...He tries to come on the board like he is some kind of Truth speaking hero when anyone who knows anything knows that the guy is truly a bad guy...He hides behind words like "His Fans" or "rebel" but the truth is he is a lieing sack of shit...He has no respect for anyone in the sport...If he did, he wouldn't make silly claimse about 2oomgs of deca or 50mgs of winstrol...Had alone is a slap in every pros face...And what he is really saying is "I'm better then all the other pros for i don't really need hormones"...99% of all other pros don't mention amounts they use but Lee feels he has to tell us what he uses...The little bastard has said many many times that he doesn't touch GH but just take a look at this midget....He is sporting a HHH visor on his forhead that he never had in the past...His tiny fingers keep getting thicker and thicker...

The man is a total douche bag...It must be something with midgets and Lying...Derek Farnsworth claims he has never even used a supplement...No creatine no nothing...They both have little man's syndrom...

Lot of hostility towards your fellow (short) man.  Why are you so angry...did a shorter man take your wife/girlfriend?

[gh15]

gh15

What health risks do you think there is from being hormonized like that and what precautions do you and others take?
also what is your thoughts about several pros with kidney problems/failure and other health issues, why do some get it and others not?

risk from being hormonized are zero ,,those are hormones your body used to produce naturally and are natural to the body,,,people with pre exsist conditions need to be careful with any sybstance they taske in body even advil and sugar so they are the only ones at risk,,

professional with kidny problem is either pre exisit condition or caused by the use of narcotics and pain killers,,every bodybuilder that had kidny problem was doiging pain killer and narcotics,,,tren is usually the excuse to severe use of pain killer and recreational drugs,,so when yuo hear about bodybuilder that ewent down and died or got kidny problem always know he was an addict of narcotics drugs and pain killers and with out them he wouldnt be able to achieve anything because the addiction on them is severe to a point you are willing to lose your life or get severe condition for life that will shorten your life

[Bobby]

risk from being hormonized are zero ,,those are hormones your body used to produce naturally and are natural to the body,,,people with pre exsist conditions need to be careful with any sybstance they taske in body even advil and sugar so they are the only ones at risk,,

professional with kidny problem is either pre exisit condition or caused by the use of narcotics and pain killers,,every bodybuilder that had kidny problem was doiging pain killer and narcotics,,,tren is usually the excuse to severe use of pain killer and recreational drugs,,so when yuo hear about bodybuilder that ewent down and died or got kidny problem always know he was an addict of narcotics drugs and pain killers and with out them he wouldnt be able to achieve anything because the addiction on them is severe to a point you are willing to lose your life or get severe condition for life that will shorten your life

So no dangerous health effects from taking Test Deca Dbol etc ??
I read Dbol is pretty strong and hard on your kidneys...
What about Flex Wheeler? he got some trouble, too much dbol or something else ?

Also, Can you and other top competitors stop the gear completely when you're retired and not BBing anymore? will your own hormone production return? or are you 'doomed' to stay on small doses then?

[gh15]

So no dangerous health effects from taking Test Deca Dbol etc ??
I read Dbol is pretty strong and hard on your kidneys...
What about Flex Wheeler? he got some trouble, too much dbol or something else ?

Also, Can you and other top competitors stop the gear completely when you're retired and not BBing anymore? will your own hormone production return? or are you 'doomed' to stay on small doses then?

no there are no health danger from aas what so ever if you are healthy person that trains regularly and dont use alchohol painkiller and rec drugs,,aas are actually beneficial to the person in many ways and uncontrolled and you can buy 10000 vials in some countrys and walk with it into the goverment offics and give gifts to the employees for xmes ,,only in america where the society is a little twisted because of politics this is the situation,,but even in america they let you be and only go after big big dealers that do a lot worse than hormones,,

now about ken,,,ken is one of the worst liars in bodybuilding ,,,so anything you hear out of his mouth is lie ,,dbol does nothing to the body but good,,reason ken was kidny problems is because of pain killer and rec drugs,,,and also hew had lot s and lots of oil in his body lots of it had to dissolve after a while and guess where it all went? you got that right,,

you got to understand you are deasling with liars first class,,most with history and probations ,,the lies are from usa to katmandoo and back

about the dose,,most professional never go off when retire they go hrt and sometime more than hrt,,if they go off they look like kevin or tom prince or mike matarazo,,average to small,,you cant after 10s of years of abusing hormones just go off,,your body is shut down after 15 years to a point it will be almost impposible for it to start again but it will but since you are not young it will be very slow and will only keep your original begginer size + first cycle as in 175 will be 190lb clean ,,that is average pro end weight if off hormones,,

i dont know any one over 200lb that is completely off hormones among past professionals,,bnot even one ,,5'11 or under

[Bobby]

no there are no health danger from aas what so ever if you are healthy person that trains regularly and dont use alchohol painkiller and rec drugs,,aas are actually beneficial to the person in many ways and uncontrolled and you can buy 10000 vials in some countrys and walk with it into the goverment offics and give gifts to the employees for xmes ,,only in america where the society is a little twisted because of politics this is the situation,,but even in america they let you be and only go after big big dealers that do a lot worse than hormones,,

now about ken,,,ken is one of the worst liars in bodybuilding ,,,so anything you hear out of his mouth is lie ,,dbol does nothing to the body but good,,reason ken was kidny problems is because of pain killer and rec drugs,,,and also hew had lot s and lots of oil in his body lots of it had to dissolve after a while and guess where it all went? you got that right,,

you got to understand you are deasling with liars first class,,most with history and probations ,,the lies are from usa to katmandoo and back

about the dose,,most professional never go off when retire they go hrt and sometime more than hrt,,if they go off they look like kevin or tom prince or mike matarazo,,average to small,,you cant after 10s of years of abusing hormones just go off,,your body is shut down after 15 years to a point it will be almost impposible for it to start again but it will but since you are not young it will be very slow and will only keep your original begginer size + first cycle as in 175 will be 190lb clean ,,that is average pro end weight if off hormones,,

i dont know any one over 200lb that is completely off hormones among past professionals,,bnot even one ,,5'11 or under

ok so hrt to keep size, But the only thing i wanted to know really, size doesn't matter only if they can live without gear and function normally. So it will actually start again? what will you do yourself when it's 'over' ? if size isn't an issue, go off for good?

"dbol does nothing to the body but good"

really!? even big doses? it's an oral so it goes thru the kidneys and it's quite strong...

What do you think awaits these incredibly huge BBs like coleman, cutler, ruhl, etc in the future? no complications or health problems what so ever?

[Benny B]

no there are no health danger from aas what so ever if you are healthy person that trains regularly and dont use alchohol painkiller and rec drugs,,aas are actually beneficial to the person in many ways and uncontrolled and you can buy 10000 vials in some countrys and walk with it into the goverment offics and give gifts to the employees for xmes ,,only in america where the society is a little twisted because of politics this is the situation,,but even in america they let you be and only go after big big dealers that do a lot worse than hormones,,

now about ken,,,ken is one of the worst liars in bodybuilding ,,,so anything you hear out of his mouth is lie ,,dbol does nothing to the body but good,,reason ken was kidny problems is because of pain killer and rec drugs,,,and also hew had lot s and lots of oil in his body lots of it had to dissolve after a while and guess where it all went? you got that right,,

you got to understand you are deasling with liars first class,,most with history and probations ,,the lies are from usa to katmandoo and back

about the dose,,most professional never go off when retire they go hrt and sometime more than hrt,,if they go off they look like kevin or tom prince or mike matarazo,,average to small,,you cant after 10s of years of abusing hormones just go off,,your body is shut down after 15 years to a point it will be almost impposible for it to start again but it will but since you are not young it will be very slow and will only keep your original begginer size + first cycle as in 175 will be 190lb clean ,,that is average pro end weight if off hormones,,

i dont know any one over 200lb that is completely off hormones among past professionals,,bnot even one ,,5'11 or under

"katmandoo"? Where might that be?
This guy cracks me up with the crappy spelling and punctuation...

[Spoony Luv]

"katmandoo"? Where might that be?
This guy cracks me up with the crappy spelling and punctuation...

Katmandoo Sir is a place that can only be seen in Stage 4 sleep...Tom Tognetti vistis Katmandoo many times a week in a GHB induced stage 4 REM sleep...The only problem is one can not remember a thing about your stage 4 visions...

[gh15]

Katmandoo Sir is a place that can only be seen in Stage 4 sleep...Tom Tognetti vistis Katmandoo many times a week in a GHB induced stage 4 REM sleep...The only problem is one can not remember a thing about your stage 4 visions...

  indeed!

[War-Horse]

GH15  You have said your a top 10 pro before, but in this thread you also state you have never taken steroids.............how is this so??

[gh15]

its a secret i didnt wanna tell you but me and gustav are truly naturalos,,we were both born on planet nibaru and donky tansfered us to earth to walk among humans

[flexnfemme]

I think the difference is "pros" are willing to be pin cushions... where the average gym rat won't.

I think many on this board are delusional about "what the pros" do or don't do...do you know anyone personally who is pro...doubt it..you have no idea by the posts I'm reading, this is pure comedy.  "Juiced to the gills" gee, kinda broad, yes??  What do YOU consider "juiced to the gills" 

[AVBG]

its a secret i didnt wanna tell you but me and gustav are truly naturalos,,we were both born on planet nibaru and donky tansfered us to earth to walk among humans

now that answers a few questions.

[one1234]

its a secret i didnt wanna tell you but me and gustav are truly naturalos,,we were both born on planet nibaru and donky tansfered us to earth to walk among humans

gh15
after a long period of heavy hormonization...will teh bb be able to have kids