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Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« on: January 19, 2008, 01:07:34 PM »
I haven't read much the chemical section since I have been a member here, but I took the time today and I find that most of you guys are thinking way too much when building your cycle.

IMO, the best way to make gains is to keep it simple.
there is nothing better than a good old Test+Deca cycle

I see guys trying to use 43953 products and switching test esters, switching products every 4 weeks etc ! I absolutly think, from my short experience, that it won't give you better results

Discuss !  :D

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 01:50:46 PM »
Not sure if that is a big trend here but I agree.  2-3 compounds is plenty for the most part, I usually do just 2.  I agree keep it simple.

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 02:18:24 PM »
Agreed. It's not as difficult as some make it.

But everyone is always looking for that next miracle AAS...hence all the new BS mixes of test, or the insanely high dosed products...you know, test that's 500mg/ml...bullshit like that.

Plain test, either E, Cyp, or prop is all the test you need for whatever the case may be. After that the basics...and you're right, you don't need all of them.


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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 02:42:58 PM »
It's not just an increasing trend here, it is pretty well across other boards as well.  I see guys running 1gram of sust a week on their THIRD cycle....they think more = better and that the dose has to increase every time you use.  Can't be any further from the truth.  K.I.S.S, most of the vets know that but people still come over and post their insane cycles.

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 03:11:25 PM »
although im not arguing with you guys on cycle preferences since ive never and prob wont ever, but imho over analyzing something especially something as volatile as AAS i think that the more you analyze it the better because essentially analyze menas to learn about it then being educated over something as much as possible is a good thing..yes??

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 03:13:28 PM »
What I gathered by him saying over analyzing is some of the crazy shit people post for cycles with all these added esters and orals and starting out with one ester then going to another halfway through then standing on your head shouting something in Aramic and blowing milk out of your ass.

Shit like that, you know?

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 03:44:44 PM »
YES YES YES - ANd even worse.... All this elaborate "Cycle" and "Stack" planning is pointless when
much is just some unknown kind of  underdosed Testo not even close to waht its labled as....  ;D

LMAO at pics of vials of stuff PPL will inject...
There'z some guys rolling in piles of money from selling basically cooking oil by the 10cc vial.

Lets see 48oz for $1.48 =

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 06:27:14 PM »
I haven't read much the chemical section since I have been a member here, but I took the time today and I find that most of you guys are thinking way too much when building your cycle.

IMO, the best way to make gains is to keep it simple.
there is nothing better than a good old Test+Deca cycle

I see guys trying to use 43953 products and switching test esters, switching products every 4 weeks etc ! I absolutly think, from my short experience, that it won't give you better results

Discuss !  :D

I agree that keeping things simple will definitely make for a better experience and also allows the user to determine which AAS work for them, without so many other variables in the mix.

For me, Test, Deca, Winstrol works like magic in a cycle........with Deca-dick being the only drawback.

Now, for an experienced user on a long cycle, switiching things up and taper to new drugs is definitely adviseable.

Newbies have it easy, they just need two compounds for an ideal cycle.

That "best cycle" mentality is unrealistic because everyone's genetics are different.

Only through self-experimentation can someone really understand what substances work best for them.



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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2008, 02:33:57 AM »
yea emm i get what your saying...and i guess especially for a newb KISS....

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 05:36:00 PM »
Hey stavios,

do you have any recent pics?  it'd be interesting to see how you're progressing since you started using chemical enhancement.

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2008, 05:37:18 PM »
Hey stavios,

do you have any recent pics?  it'd be interesting to see how you're progressing since you started using chemical enhancement.

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 05:40:14 PM »
Buy PlayGirl...

Already got it...doesn't do it for me anymore though :-\

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Re: Are you guys over-analysing everything ?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 06:48:58 AM »
I disagree...in fact i think most guys underanalyse the AAS cycle.

it all boils down to experience and goals. sure a basic bulking cycle should be simple, like test/deca/dbol but when prepping for a bodybuilding contest you must use a wide range of AAS to get to your peak level. most of the upper level guys i've met run 4-5 compounds at the same time when prepping for a show.

now i'm not saying to run 3 different tests or test/eq/deca/tren/mast/dbol/drol/var/primo...etc...but a combination of 3-4 compounds will provide a very drastic response versus just test/eq.

just my .02

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