palumbo's deca and anavar cycles???

[theworm]

you on it alone?  what is your cycle like?

[Emmortal]

These stupid urban legends about deca are idiotic and nonscientific.  ALL steroids shut you down to some extent.  Deca is one of the most popular steroids in the world.  Has been for decades.  I've used it no problems and am on it now without test.  My sex drive is up.  My dreams are up etc.  Will it shut you down like any other steroid?  Yes.  So will test.  But I get hardly any sides with deca and the quality is on par with test, albeit slower muscle gains. 

Deca is indeed one of the most popular steroids in the world which is why it's also the most faked steroid in the world.  Most of the deca going around even in the 70's was faked with just testosterone which is why you hear a lot of those guys who ran deca only cycles back then and didn't have issues.  Also there's the stigma amongst many guys with sexual function and not being able to perform in bed, after all we're all big tough bodybuilders with egos to match the size of our muscles therefore we are stallions in bed and knock out women left and right every night, right?  Fact of the matter is, you are right in some regard, deca will only shut down some people, but it does happen to more than you realize.  Take a look at this poll on BB.com 18 people have experienced deca dick while 26 had not, that's pretty strong numbers right there.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=198816031&posted=1#post198816031

It's just foolish thinking IMO to not run test with deca when you can avoid the issue all together, why not?  When you run deca you are shutting your natural production of test down and aren't replacing it with an exogenous source of the hormone.  It's the keystone hormone in a male so and regulates many things in the male body.  Just another BIG reason to run test with your cycles, it's just the logical thing to do if you care about taking care of your body in the long run.

[candidizzle]

worm, if you could get some andriol, i bet you can run those at a doseage very similar to natty test prodcution while doing a "deca+var" cycle..

[theworm]

thanks candi,

i am actaully going to do a test 500 and deca 300 cycle x 10 weeks, then test 500 x 2 more weeks... we'll see how it goes!

[MuscleMcMannus]

Deca is indeed one of the most popular steroids in the world which is why it's also the most faked steroid in the world.  Most of the deca going around even in the 70's was faked with just testosterone which is why you hear a lot of those guys who ran deca only cycles back then and didn't have issues.  Also there's the stigma amongst many guys with sexual function and not being able to perform in bed, after all we're all big tough bodybuilders with egos to match the size of our muscles therefore we are stallions in bed and knock out women left and right every night, right?  Fact of the matter is, you are right in some regard, deca will only shut down some people, but it does happen to more than you realize.  Take a look at this poll on BB.com 18 people have experienced deca dick while 26 had not, that's pretty strong numbers right there.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=198816031&posted=1#post198816031

It's just foolish thinking IMO to not run test with deca when you can avoid the issue all together, why not?  When you run deca you are shutting your natural production of test down and aren't replacing it with an exogenous source of the hormone.  It's the keystone hormone in a male so and regulates many things in the male body.  Just another BIG reason to run test with your cycles, it's just the logical thing to do if you care about taking care of your body in the long run.

  Maybe some but definitely not "most". 

[Fulgorre]

no test will work for muscle growth but your penix might not work.  I would run a very small amount of test just for health (immune) like 150mg or 200mg per week along with Palumbo cycle

[LATS]

 people sometimes bitch about deca.. but, as far as gear goes it has stood the test of time and is very dependable builder without too many sides.. as for what disgusted said, many guys do not like test.. i was just talking the other day to a recently retired pro who said he did not like the way test made him feel.. he would include some in his cycles and was on 250 mgs a week even off cycle.. but, he loved, deca, winny, and the like.. his last cycle was 500 week test cyp, 600 deca, 200 week winny and 400 primo along with 4 ius of gh a day..