Atheistic Horseman of the Apocalypse Sam Harris slams Obama!

[Nordic Superman]

But how can you know this if you haven't truly tried to understand the Qur'an? 

Your approach is totally wrong, which prevents you from learning anything of real substance.

Fuck the antagonism, just learn. Don't bring your emotions and your prejudices into it.

But that takes the sensationalism out of it, which would make your quest very boring. Cuz you really don't give a shit about learning it 

Once again making assumptions on the premise that I haven't done something. The premise existing because of your own bias and the fact that you believe your interpretation to be true and anything I say to be false.

All this is because you're a muslim who believes no bad of the koran (you mustn't to be considered a muslim) resulting in any criticism from anyone to be false and on incorrect bias premises.

Mentioning emotions and prejudices is just ironic now isn't it?

Who's the one denying the fact that the koran condones and even promotes slavery?

[Slapper]

You're stirring up hate here too? Man! You're a 24/7 hata!

[Nordic Superman]

You're stirring up hate here too? Man! You're a 24/7 hata!

Yes I protect my position.

How are you brother? Having a nice day?

[haider]

Once again making assumptions on the premise that I haven't done something. The premise existing because of your own bias and the fact that you believe your interpretation to be true and anything I say to be false.

All this is because you're a muslim who believes no bad of the koran (you mustn't to be considered a muslim) resulting in any criticism from anyone to be false and on incorrect bias premises.

Mentioning emotions and prejudices is just ironic now isn't it?

Who's the one denying the fact that the koran condones and even promotes slavery?

I'm saying you have a twisted interpretation of the Qur'an based on your prejudice and assumptions. haha, no its not even an interpretation, as you have never read it yourself, only second hand nonsense that you read.

Until you're ready to be honest with yourself, about your own motives and biases, why even fucking bother arguing with someone else? And why should I waste my time arguing with you? 

If I didnt think higher of you I'd jsut tell you to fuck off and remain in your misery forever. I will comment no further in this thread.

[Nordic Superman]

I'm saying you have a twisted interpretation of the Qur'an based on your prejudice and assumptions. haha, no its not even an interpretation, as you have never read it yourself, only second hand nonsense that you read.

Until you're ready to be honest with yourself, about your own motives and biases, why even fucking bother arguing with someone else? And why should I waste my time arguing with you? 

If I didnt think higher of you I'd jsut tell you to fuck off and remain in your misery forever. I will comment no further in this thread.

Wow, what an idiot you are. Someone has an opposing view as you and whatever they say becomes a lie, none-true or bias (ignoring all evidence of your own bias). Here's a statement you'll like: you're just like your false prophet muhammad, except there's no Quraysh tribe for you to slaughter as your prophet did.

Hard to have an interpretation of a book which sells itself as the infallible word of god and contains statements of recursion stating it must be believed in its entirety for you to pass gods judgement.

[youandme]

I disagree.  The reason they viewed slaves as less than human and as "commodities" was they viewed Africans as inferior.  That view was grounded on racism, not religion.  You should check this book out:  "Lies My Teacher Told Me."  Really puts the slavery/racism issue in its proper context.  

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/1595583262/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206294542&sr=1-1

Hmm not a good source, hardly a historian perspective or grasp of the subject

True they did view them as "African savages" everyone did mainly the enlightenment thinkers when Britain was setting up NGOs people such as David Livingston would embark to help them and missionaries would get chopped up and eaten.

[Dos Equis]

Hmm not a good source, hardly a historian perspective or grasp of the subject

True they did view them as "African savages" everyone did mainly the enlightenment thinkers when Britain was setting up NGOs people such as David Livingston would embark to help them and missionaries would get chopped up and eaten.

It's actually an excellent source.  Well written and well researched.  You should check it out.  The Japanese aren't the only ones who whitewash their history books.   

[Deicide]

It's actually an excellent source.  Well written and well researched.  You should check it out.  The Japanese aren't the only ones who whitewash their history books.    Beach Bum isn't the only one who has whitewashed his head by thumping it with the Bible too many times, but hey, that's what university professors do.