What modern drug use DID and DID NOT do, to elite/pro bodybuilding.

[Howard]

I think we all agree that drugs have been part of bodybuildin for some time now and do make a difference in a physique. I think one of the worst "side effects" of modern , extreme drug use is this belief that "drugs mean everything" in building muscle size and  a great physique.

Drugs did NOT do away with the need for a strict diet or cardio to get lean and cut.
Drugs did NOT do away with the need to train hard in the gym to build muscle.
Drugs did NOT change the need for great genetics to build a pro level physique.
Drugs did NOT do away with the requirement to be motivated and have a the desire to win.

What the drugs DID do, was increase the standards for required mass, and freaky hardness that all top pros must now have to do well.
Take away most of the drugs and you still have a great pro physique. Granted, they won't be as big or freaky, but it would place more emphasis on the classic lines and overall cuts and shape , etc.
Howard

[240 is Back]

here we go again!

[mass 04]

NO!!

[gordiano]

 

[The Squadfather]

this is what physiques would be without steroids.

[E N A N T H A T O R]

I think we all agree that drugs have been part of bodybuildin for some time now and do make a difference in a physique. I think one of the worst "side effects" of modern , extreme drug use is this belief that "drugs mean everything" in building muscle size and  a great physique.

Drugs did NOT do away with the need for a strict diet or cardio to get lean and cut.
Drugs did NOT do away with the need to train hard in the gym to build muscle.
Drugs did NOT change the need for great genetics to build a pro level physique.
Drugs did NOT do away with the requirement to be motivated and have a the desire to win.

What the drugs DID do, was increase the standards for required mass, and freaky hardness that all top pros must now have to do well.
Take away most of the drugs and you still have a great pro physique. Granted, they won't be as big or freaky, but it would place more emphasis on the classic lines and overall cuts and shape , etc.
Howard

Shouldn't you be trolling elsewhere asshole. No gives a shit about your shitty threads!

[RZA]

Another geeky fuckin' thread. How do you come up with that shit? I bet those topics just hit you while you're listening to nu-metal and masturbating in front of your computer watching german "mature" porn, right?

[emn1964]

this is what physiques would be without steroids.

leave him alone Squad, he has a disease...

[E N A N T H A T O R]

Another geeky fuckin' thread. How do you come up with that shit? I bet those topics just hit you while you're listening to nu-metal and masturbating in front of your computer watching german "mature" porn, right?

"mature" doubt it!

[RZA]

"mature" doubt it!

Those 12-year old german schoolgirls look already like they're 45, that's why.

[E N A N T H A T O R]

Those 12-year old german schoolgirls look already like they're 45, that's why.

Is that the pos's excuse!

[RZA]

That's what I guess Howie will say for his own defense.

[E N A N T H A T O R]

That's what I guess Howie will say for his own defense.

Meanwhile he jumped ship on this thread, hopefully hes now busy contemplating suicide.

[E N A N T H A T O R]

Thanks to you and the others for all your kind words and thoughtful additions to my thread.

Is there something wierdo?

[RZA]

Thanks to you and the others for all your kind words and thoughtful additions to my thread.

OK, I know I'm gonna hate myself for asking but WTK is your obsession with pro-bodybuilding? Are you fuckin' serious?

[E N A N T H A T O R]

I am clueless as to why you have such an obssession with me and my posts Why this endless need to just bash and trash, ad naseum? If ya want to make a funny crack about me ,fine, this is get big. But this endless trivial insulting is pretty lame and a major bore.

You are the bore and a sick one at that!

[E N A N T H A T O R]

I will be forced to ignore you...again as you add nothing to this thread.
I still can't fathom why you waste so much tome trying to make these endless posts and replys related to your hatred of me???

"HowardBman2003@yahoo.com"

[candidizzle]

to some extent it could be argued that very single one of your points is wrong, to some extent.

[E N A N T H A T O R]

Ok, then do so, which is fine the actual purpose of this thread.
Howard

Sie noch hier Sie krankes Stück des Scheiße-Kinderbelästigers.

[candidizzle]

Ok, then do so, which is fine the actual purpose of this thread.
Howard

well im not making that rgument, but drugs do make dieting a bit eassier, they do make it easier to be motivated, they do make up for a lack of genetics, they do allor for less hard training...      and the judging doesn "mandate" mass.. SMALLER MORE AESTHETIC GUYS DO WELL AT OTHER SHOWS THAN THE OLYMPIA

damnit, caps lock