Synovex and Finaplix Conversion

[Fulgorre]

So for those who are new, like I used to be, let me explain what I am referring to here.  The cattle industry makes Synovex (test prop 200mg +20mg estradiol) and Finaplix (trenbolone + estradiol) for use a implants into cattle before they slaughtered.  It increases the feed efficiency- meaning feed the cow the same amount of food but get more meat.

What do you guys think about making this stuff.  I've looked into it and it seems rather simple and is dirt cheap.  All comments welcome.

[candidizzle]

the ones with estradiol..i would stay away from those ones..they do that so bodybuilders wont use it...   but you can find ones tha are pure trenbolone...check ou some of the veterinary sites on the web...its like 300 bucks for twenty grams

[Fulgorre]

the ones with estradiol..i would stay away from those ones..they do that so bodybuilders wont use it...   but you can find ones tha are pure trenbolone...check ou some of the veterinary sites on the web...its like 300 bucks for twenty grams

You are on the right path padawan

But you seperate teh estrogen out via a filtering process.  The kits include instructions and you also find good stuff here.  www.basskilleronline.com

Candizzle will probably turn out to be a DEA agent! lol jk

[candidizzle]

well alright cool

id rather do the conversion and filtering myself, then pay some mexicans to do it in their bathtub for me (ug tren LOL)

[Rimbaud]

Be extremely careful with converting & such. The feds have cracked down on places that sell conversion kits in the past. A lot of these places will also store your info & turn it over if they get popped.

[Fulgorre]

Be extremely careful with converting & such. The feds have cracked down on places that sell conversion kits in the past. A lot of these places will also store your info & turn it over if they get popped.

Thanks, makes sense.  My name could pop up as a dealer for converting even if I am only doing for personal use...which I am. 

[Rimbaud]

Thanks, makes sense.  My name could pop up as a dealer for converting even if I am only doing for personal use...which I am. 

No problem. There was a research place that was popped awhile ago (the name escapes me) & they turned over all their info to the feds. People think I'm being overly paranoid but I've seen/heard of some weird shit since Raw Deal & such.

[Has Beens]

If anyone has done the synovex_h conversion, please PM me. Curious on the total ml/mg end product.

[Fulgorre]

If anyone has done the synovex_h conversion, please PM me. Curious on the total ml/mg end product.

Will do when I try it I'll post on here.  For my calves of course.  Improves growth.

[darmhok]

DO NOT attempt to separate the ones containing estradiol, it is IMPOSSIBLE without extremely expensive equipment (equipment being something like a CEPA High Speed Centrifuge ) Now let me say again  I M P O S S I B L E. years ago when first making tren from finaplix, i was in college and had a very 'eccentric' chemistry professor. this guy was out there - he actually gave a lecture about the methylation of pharmaceuticals to alter biological effectiveness, and used the methylation of base amphetamine into methamphetamine as the lecture example. for anyone who doesnt know - thats crystal meth. after that lecture i went to him and told him of my conversion plan, he was VERY helpful. then i asked him about the estradiol containing pellets and if it would be possible to separate it out of the mix. after careful study he told me flat out NO. estradiol and prop are extremely similar compounds - everything that will dissolve one will dissolve the other, they will react with the same chemicals. what this means is that that is no CHEMICAL way to separate them. the only method left is physical separation, basically using a ridiculously expensive centrifuge to produde a gradient of the dissolved estradiol and prop, then siphoning the layer containing the prop. NOT GONNA HAPEN AT HOME EVER - i dont give a F**K what anyone posts after this = it AINT gonna happen

[Fulgorre]

DO NOT attempt to separate the ones containing estradiol, it is IMPOSSIBLE without extremely expensive equipment (equipment being something like a CEPA High Speed Centrifuge ) Now let me say again  I M P O S S I B L E. years ago when first making tren from finaplix, i was in college and had a very 'eccentric' chemistry professor. this guy was out there - he actually gave a lecture about the methylation of pharmaceuticals to alter biological effectiveness, and used the methylation of base amphetamine into methamphetamine as the lecture example. for anyone who doesnt know - thats crystal meth. after that lecture i went to him and told him of my conversion plan, he was VERY helpful. then i asked him about the estradiol containing pellets and if it would be possible to separate it out of the mix. after careful study he told me flat out NO. estradiol and prop are extremely similar compounds - everything that will dissolve one will dissolve the other, they will react with the same chemicals. what this means is that that is no CHEMICAL way to separate them. the only method left is physical separation, basically using a ridiculously expensive centrifuge to produde a gradient of the dissolved estradiol and prop, then siphoning the layer containing the prop. NOT GONNA HAPEN AT HOME EVER - i dont give a F**K what anyone posts after this = it AINT gonna happen

Well, that is a bummer! I'll keep researching the different types of synovex as I know there a few different kinds. Got to get one that has test in though.

[Fulgorre]

Synovex S for Beef Steers weighing 400 lbs or more. Each dose contains 200mg progesterone and 20mg estradiol benzoate.

Synovex H for Beef Heifers weighing 400 lbs or more. Each dose contains 200mg testosterone propionate and 20mg estradiol benzoate. Not for use with replacement heifers.

Synovex C for Suckling Beef Calves of 49 days of age to 400 lbs body weight. Each dose contains 100mg progesterone and 10mg estradiol benzoate. Synovex C implant is followed at approximately 70 days by Synovex S.

[Has Beens]

What he is saying is that you CAN`T separate the estrogen from the test. I have heard this to be true years ago and was hoping a new method around this had popped up.

[candidizzle]

What he is saying is that you CAN`T separate the estrogen from the test. I have heard this to be true years ago and was hoping a new method around this had popped up.

i think what hes saying is that you cant COMPLETELY seperate the two

[darmhok]

yes thats what i mean, and since u cant completely separet the 2 even a TINY amount of estradial will F**k u up, get some nice tender nipple chunks from it

[Fulgorre]

yes thats what i mean, and since u cant completely separet the 2 even a TINY amount of estradial will F**k u up, get some nice tender nipple chunks from it

Mmm, don't some common birth control pills contain low amounts of estradiol?  And those low amounts still cause weight gain in a lot of women who take them.  I guess it just depends on how much and how sensitive a person is.  Remember, test e and test c both convert to estrogen. 

Would this me be more or less than the amount left after the conversion?

Could using nolvadex prevent the estrogen from binding to your nipple receptors?

[Fulgorre]

Removing Estradiol Benzoate from Testosterone Implants
Any athlete who uses an implant containing estradiol will rapidly find themselves shopping for comfortable bras. No amount of anti-estrogen can block the effects of the large amount of female hormone contained within these implants. The only way to effectively use these implants is to remove the estradiol component prior to administration.

So, how can the estradiol benzoate (EB) be separated from the testosterone propionate (TP)? By examining the Merck Index, it's clear that while TP is readily soluble in ether, EB is not. Various kits are available that take advantage of the different properties of TP and EB. Using one of these kits are a must before using either Synovex or Implus-H. These kits will not remove 100% of the estrogen contained within the implant so concomitant use of an estrogen blocker is required.