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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2008, 01:53:12 PM »
I always tell people don't confuse conceit & confidence. There is a fine line between the two but both are very different.

Define the difference playboy....

I always wondered if conceited or confident women were just as susceptible to domestic violence as women with no confidence or self esteem.   I would think not.  But I tell you what, conceited or confident women sure get hated on more

I once did an experiment (at a nightclub and at the local Best Buy). You see, I have awesome posture (at least it seems). When I intentionally slump, it seems I get more attention from people or at least they are more open to talking to me and looking me in the eye.  When I stand normal, people avoid me even when I smile and say hello
.  Could my posture be a reason why I never attracted abusive men in the past?  I think it has alot to do with it.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2008, 02:05:56 PM »
Define the difference playboy....

I always wondered if conceited or confident women were just as susceptible to domestic violence as women with no confidence or self esteem.   I would think not.  But I tell you what, conceited or confident women sure get hated on more

I once did an experiment (at a nightclub and at the local Best Buy). You see, I have awesome posture (at least it seems). When I intentionally slump, it seems I get more attention from people or at least they are more open to talking to me and looking me in the eye.  When I stand normal, people avoid me even when I smile and say hello
.  Could my posture be a reason why I never attracted abusive men in the past?  I think it has alot to do with it.
Anybody is susceptable to violence. Sad but true.
The conceided person will walk around like their shit don't stink.
The confident person will walk around feeling great about themselves without acting arrogant.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2008, 03:42:26 PM »
Ok, i just read that 20% of all women supposedly have had a man use violence against them in a relationship.
I remember reading that in Lesbian relationships this number is as high as 40%.

Seems a little high to me.

How would you girls react if your partner did it once? (Say he slaps you pretty hard/pushes you during an argument?)
Give him another chance? Tell everyone/try to hide it from your friends and relatives?

I'm a bit curious cause i never heard a woman say that they would put up with it, but apparently 20% of them do. 
Been there with my exhusband.  He was physically abusive a couple times (I have learned through experience that you don't give "other chances".  Once a hitter...always a hitter).  The last time he was.,,,I introduced his skull to a 5lb lead crystal lighter.  It worked quite well and I wouldn't ever hesitate to use that lighter again.   ;)
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2008, 05:25:30 PM »
Maybe it's cultural, or just me - but 20% seems high number to me. I am racking my brain, and seem to only be able to think of one women I know who had an abusive husband. Not downing anyone who has been there but for me, should anyone ever raise their hand to me - that's it. And both my father and brother would hunt the guy down - and that is *not* an exaggeration. I am lucky in the respect that my family is mega supportive so I would never have the quandries of where to go etc, that I know some women face.

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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2008, 07:21:34 PM »
Maybe it's cultural, or just me - but 20% seems high number to me. I am racking my brain, and seem to only be able to think of one women I know who had an abusive husband. Not downing anyone who has been there but for me, should anyone ever raise their hand to me - that's it. And both my father and brother would hunt the guy down - and that is *not* an exaggeration. I am lucky in the respect that my family is mega supportive so I would never have the quandries of where to go etc, that I know some women face.
Most women don't go to their families CQ with this due to the fear that is driven in by the abuser that their family could become a victim as well.  Unless you've experienced it, one really can't know what they would do.   :-\  It'a really up to the abused to take a stand and report and remove themselves from such a cycle.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2008, 06:57:10 PM »
Who the fuck deleted my post?

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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2008, 09:13:09 PM »
Who the fuck deleted my post?

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You're not on the approved list, foreigner. Get lost!! >:(



I don't understand how/why women stay with men that are abusive physically. Mentally abusive is different, some may not even realize the abuse for years, if ever.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2008, 09:39:37 AM »
I don't understand how/why women stay with men that are abusive physically. Mentally abusive is different, some may not even realize the abuse for years, if ever.

OMG we agree on something!
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2008, 03:50:52 PM »
You're not on the approved list, foreigner. Get lost!! >:(



I don't understand how/why women stay with men that are abusive physically. Mentally abusive is different, some may not even realize the abuse for years, if ever.
Have you ever been on the receiving end of a physically abusive relationship?  Most likely not, so you would not understand.  It's not just all physically, it is very much mental as well.  And due to the fact that it happens A LOT it is obviously quite normal (although those who have never been wouldn't consider it normal) for someone to be more in fear of leaving....than staying.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2008, 08:47:42 AM »
I have been in the middle of this type of situation with my mother and father.

I remember one time he came home drunk and beat her with his shoe, she ran out of the house to a neighbor's house and left my older brother and me (He was 13 I was 9) in the house with my dad.

We jumped on my dad (he was too drunk to fight back) while she was away but she never called the police on him, I never understood that. Her reasoning was "he is a good man when he is sober". What was she thinking?

I don't get it.

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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2008, 03:27:25 PM »
I dunno what makes others stay but it doesn't make me feel they were weak or stupid in any way .. I know I tried to make it work without just being one to cut and run out on something that was intended to be a partnership

Nobody is perfect and to have a temper surely doesn't help to solve issues , I tried very hard to give my "loved ones" the benefit of the doubt and try to mend and work on what I could as much as I could .. I have many times been told I'm gullible and have low self worth .. but I'm not one to take on others opinions as gospel .. if I'm asked if I made bad decisions .. I say yes but with good reasons

When we join up with a life mate we don't actually truly know them completely , not straight away , our feelings are all mostly just happy and fulfilling .. in time our flaws and issues crop up , as well as work issues or extended family issues or ex- issues even.. so the level of anxiety has a lot to do with explosions sometimes

Unless it's a daily or weekly issue it becomes "less" than dangerous , troublesome or worrisome  in some ways , and if it's not blood drawing , bone breaking or really fear inducing ..it seems like escalated "events" more than a part of the persona and a reoccurring theme to worry about

this isn't saying anyone else thinks this way I'm just relating my train of thought .. when I hear people say you can just leave it makes me think that they haven't a clue of the total picture and find an immediate reaction rational .. to make such a drastic and complete decision shouldn't be immediate especially when a lot of love and compassion is felt and part of the picture

HM maybe because your Mom truly loved your Dad and didn't want the family all tore up she did what she felt was fair at the time , she seems like a very loving woman so I'm thinking she just wanted it all to be better and couldn't be the one to tear it up, of course I don't know ..I'm just guessing .. but to know your feelings about this I bet would hurt her more


Hate and violence are ugly and the damage can cause life long issues to those who have to face it .. it doesn't appear to bother the ones inflicting it as much though does it ?

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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2008, 04:46:35 PM »
I have been in the middle of this type of situation with my mother and father.

I remember one time he came home drunk and beat her with his shoe, she ran out of the house to a neighbor's house and left my older brother and me (He was 13 I was 9) in the house with my dad.

We jumped on my dad (he was too drunk to fight back) while she was away but she never called the police on him, I never understood that. Her reasoning was "he is a good man when he is sober". What was she thinking?

I don't get it.

HMIC


No offence HM but you were not "IN" the situation...you were witness to it.  You try being on the end the beaten side of a relationship (as a female).    Believe me, in the end...we (the victims) are always asking what was I thinking but at the time...there are sooooooooooo many reasons.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2008, 05:29:53 PM »
No offence HM but you were not "IN" the situation...you were witness to it.  You try being on the end the beaten side of a relationship (as a female).    Believe me, in the end...we (the victims) are always asking what was I thinking but at the time...there are sooooooooooo many reasons.

Well when a grown man puts his hands around a young boys neck (His flesh and blood) and commences to choke him because he was trying to protect his mom, I don't know any other way of looking at this but that I was "IN" the middle oh and no offense taken.

HM maybe because your Mom truly loved your Dad and didn't want the family all tore up she did what she felt was fair at the time , she seems like a very loving woman so I'm thinking she just wanted it all to be better and couldn't be the one to tear it up, of course I don't know ..I'm just guessing .. but to know your feelings about this I bet would hurt her more
Sad thing to me is even on her death bed when he came to see her (while she was in hospice) she told him she will always love him. I think the guilt killed him because he passed 9 months later.

Hate and violence are ugly and the damage can cause life long issues to those who have to face it .. it doesn't appear to bother the ones inflicting it as much though does it ?
Yes big time but I will say this; The one good thing that came out of that horrible experience is that I know I would never lay my hand on a woman in anger.
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2008, 10:07:15 PM »
Have you ever been on the receiving end of a physically abusive relationship? 
Can't say I have.



Let me ask you this, when a woman gets out of that relationship and looks back, what excuses does she give for staying as long as she did? Does she wonder why it took so long for her to leave? Does she ever wonder if he would have changed had she stayed?
How does that relationship affect the next one and the next one and so on?
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Re: Domestic Abuse - 20 % of all women?
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2008, 07:08:19 AM »
Can't say I have.



Let me ask you this, when a woman gets out of that relationship and looks back, what excuses does she give for staying as long as she did? Does she wonder why it took so long for her to leave? Does she ever wonder if he would have changed had she stayed?
How does that relationship affect the next one and the next one and so on?
Some will continue giving "him" excuses or justifying/blaming themselves for the demise of the relationship or abuse, while others definitely wonder what the hell were they thinking.
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