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Creationism In US High Schools: 16 Percent Of US Science Teachers Are Creationists
Huffington Post   |   May 21, 2008 09:56 AM
 
ABC News reports on the findings of a study that concluded 16% of U.S. science teachers are Creationists, and that, disturbingly, one in eight are teaching creationism as a valid science:

Despite a court-ordered ban on the teaching of creationism in U.S. schools, about one in eight high-school biology teachers still teach it as valid science, a survey reveals. And, although almost all teachers also taught evolution, those with less training in science -- and especially evolutionary biology -- tend to devote less class time to Darwinian principles...

...The researchers polled a random sample of nearly 2,000 high-school science teachers across the U.S. in 2007. Of the 939 who responded, 2 percent said they did not cover evolution at all, with the majority spending between 3 and 10 classroom hours on the subject.

However, a quarter of the teachers also reported spending at least some time teaching about creationism or intelligent design. Of these, 48 percent -- about 12.5 percent of the total survey -- said they taught it as a "valid, scientific alternative to Darwinian explanations for the origin of species".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/creationism-in-us-high-sc_n_102853.html

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And people wonder why science standards in this country are so low, and falling sharply...

How can we keep up with China, India, et al. when our science education is failing?

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And people wonder why science standards in this country are so low, and falling sharply...

How can we keep up with China, India, et al. when our science education is failing?

You can't!  Muahahahhahhahhaa...
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16% isn't something to brag about.

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And people wonder why science standards in this country are so low, and falling sharply...

How can we keep up with China, India, et al. when our science education is failing?

Kids these days can barely spell science. The problems with American education has NOTHING to do with the Creation vs. evolution debate.

The number of science teachers who believe in Creation were, no doubt, lower a few years back. Yet, the USA was taking a beating in the scientific area, anyway.

What's the excuse for that?

How does believing in Creation prevent a kid from dissecting a frog? Or learning how to use Linnaeus' taxonomic chart to classify animals or other critters?






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Kids these days can barely spell science. The problems with American education has NOTHING to do with the Creation vs. evolution debate.




This is a far bigger problem than people's faith.   We are slipping behind.  There are just as many engineers in South Korea as in American and there are 4 times as many engineers in China then America

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Kids these days can barely spell science. The problems with American education has NOTHING to do with the Creation vs. evolution debate.

The number of science teachers who believe in Creation were, no doubt, lower a few years back. Yet, the USA was taking a beating in the scientific area, anyway.

What's the excuse for that?

How does believing in Creation prevent a kid from dissecting a frog? Or learning how to use Linnaeus' taxonomic chart to classify animals or other critters?






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Kids these days can barely spell science. The problems with American education has NOTHING to do with the Creation vs. evolution debate.


I wouldn't say "NOTHING" but you are largely right.

Our culture unfortunately encourages the disdain of learning. It's totally cool to say you don't know science or math, but kids wouldn't dream of saying they don't know who Britney is... Kids have it too easy... I don't know, man. It depresses me.

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I wouldn't say "NOTHING" but you are largely right.

Our culture unfortunately encourages the disdain of learning. It's totally cool to say you don't know science or math, but kids wouldn't dream of saying they don't know who Britney is... Kids have it too easy... I don't know, man. It depresses me.

It's not religion or belief in creationism that's causing this.

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Diamonds May Be a Creationist's Best Friend
by Larry Vardiman, Ph.D.*


During the Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth (RATE) project, Andrew Snelling discovered evidence for a young earth and accelerated nuclear decay based on the presence of polonium radiohalos near uranium radiohalos in the black mineral biotite, which is part of granite. Mark Armitage conducted most of the laboratory work that led to this discovery. Snelling explained the displacement of the polonium radiohalos from nearby uranium radiohalos by the transport of uranium decay products in hot water flowing through layers of atoms in the biotite. Time constraints on the decay of polonium led to estimates for the age of the granites at thousands, not the conventional billions, of years.

Simultaneously during the RATE project, John Baumgardner discovered that diamonds contain measurable concentrations of carbon-14 that date them at less than 50,000 years, assuming conventional concentrations of atmospheric carbon-14 when they were formed. The question naturally arose--what was the source of the carbon-14?

Armitage had earlier observed that some diamonds occasionally contained radiohalos and what looked like twisted crystalline tubes in their interior. Armitage and Snelling decided to conduct a search for diamonds from different sources, to hopefully explain the origin of the radiohalos and evaluate their significance. They found no radiohalos in African diamonds, but did find them in several others, including a Brazilian diamond. They also found large numbers of various inclusions (including possible zircons) and etch trails, darkened linear features, and twisted tubes. These features seem to be explainable by processes occurring at the intersection of cleavage planes that are present in diamonds due to their crystalline structure.

The intact crystal structure of diamonds, without clearly developed fracture surfaces along cleavages, would not seem to be capable of providing open avenues for fluid infiltration for ambient temperatures at the surface of the earth. However, for temperatures of 300-400°C at which magmatic and hydrothermal fluids might have been available to infiltrate the diamonds, the heat would likely have expanded the crystal structure, thus opening cleavage planes to provide necessary pathways. Given that the diamond crystal structure is normally tight (closepacked), if the cleavages within it are opened by heat and fluid pressure, the easiest, most open pathways for fluids to infiltrate would be at the linear intersections of the cleavage planes. Because there are essentially five cleavage planes in diamonds, the lines of intersection between them run in numerous directions, accounting for the twisted tubes.

It is likely that uranium-238 and its decay products infiltrated the diamonds from surrounding materials during and after their ascent to the earth's upper crust. Temperatures there would have been cooler than the 1100-2900°C in the mantle, where diamonds are believed to have formed. While kimberlite and lamproite magmas that commonly transport diamonds to the surface are rich with volitiles like CO2, they contain very little water and so produce dry volcanic eruptions. Since water is the likely transporter of uranium-238 and its decay products, the infiltration of water transporting them to form the radiohalos in diamonds would need to occur after the emplacement of the host kimberlite or lamproite at or near the earth's surface.

It appears that Armitage's observations of etch trails, darkened linear features, and twisted tubes are remnants of fluid infiltration when the hot diamonds were in contact with hydrothermal fluids near the surface of the earth. The fluid infiltration process to generate the polonium radiohalos places significant time limits on this process, on the order of hours or weeks. This is consistent with the evidence for rapid speed (within hours) at which diamond-bearing kimberlite pipes were explosively emplaced. Once emplaced, complete cooling of the fragmented congealing kimberlite magma is also rapid (within days or weeks) at the surface. So, in addition to the evidence for a young earth from the carbon-14 found in diamonds, we now also seem to have evidence that the dynamic process of radiohalo formation in diamonds occurred during a very short period of time as well.

Armitage and Snelling will present these exciting results in their paper "Radiohalos and Diamonds: Are Diamonds Really Forever?" at the 6th International Conference on Creationism in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, August 3-7, 2008.

* Dr. Vardiman is Director of Research.